Heh, PWN'd.

Well bowing to a "king", especially that one, gives me a good indication of his emotional backbone. If he bows to a "king" abroad chances are he will be bowing to political kings at home as well. Like, say for example, union bosses who control large voting blocks.

Someone got TOLD.

i know i lost my job and have to worry about having no health insurance and all that, but i swear i've lost sleep over the bow situation.

As long as he doesn't kneel before Zod, we're okay.

Sliding Carp: As long as he doesn't kneel before Zod, we're okay.

i reject your premise, everyone must kneel before zod.

neilnole: Well bowing to a "king", especially that one, gives me a good indication of his emotional backbone. If he bows to a "king" abroad chances are he will be bowing to political kings at home as well. Like, say for example, union bosses who control large voting blocks.

As I said in another thread the other day, if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

But then again, I don't have protocol officers and handlers like the President of the United States does. But still, I completely, honestly do not see the outrage over this. I find it odd, but not outrageous.

Hender: if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

Yeah, but that's just horrible because...uh...then...you are...I don't know. But it's just horrible.

Lando Lincoln: Hender: if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

Yeah, but that's just horrible because...uh...then...you are...I don't know. But it's just horrible.

My girlfriend and her family are British. Can I get some sort of waiver that way?

neilnole: Well bowing to a "king", especially that one, gives me a good indication of his emotional backbone. If he bows to a "king" abroad chances are he will be bowing to political kings at home as well. Like, say for example, union bosses who control large voting blocks.

6/10. personally, i would've a few misspellings or grammatical errors and at least one "libtard" - but on the whole that was a pretty good troll. bravo!

it kind of looked like he had no idea what to do. sometimes i try to say "how ya doing" and "hows it going" at the same time, and i wind up saying "hows it doing". obama looked like he was trying to shake hands and bow at the waist at the same time and then settled on shaking hands.

CNN's typical hard on for GOP talking points... no "Ennui" tag?

Hender: Lando Lincoln: Hender: if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

Yeah, but that's just horrible because...uh...then...you are...I don't know. But it's just horrible.

My girlfriend and her family are British. Can I get some sort of waiver that way?

Uh, you shouldn't bow, you're NOT her subject.

Would you bow to the King of Spain? The Emperor of Japan?

I wouldn't. I'd probably nod as politely as I'd nod to any other head of state. I wouldn't bow to the President of the US, I'd nod politely and shake his hand.

I would bow to the Queen. She's my head of state.

Hell, I bowed to Lady Bird Johnson once.
What's that make me?

bobbette: Uh, you shouldn't bow, you're NOT her subject.

Would you bow to the King of Spain? The Emperor of Japan?

Yeah, I think I would.

Does that mean I am now in her service? Or is it just a gesture?

Flatulent_Flea: Hell, I bowed to Lady Bird Johnson once.
What's that make me?

OLD! HAHAHAHAHA! YOU ARE SOOOO OLD!

He probably shouldn't have bowed, but on the "things I'm concerned about" scale, this comes just after clipping my fingernails.

flavor of the month: it kind of looked like he had no idea what to do. sometimes i try to say "how ya doing" and "hows it going" at the same time, and i wind up saying "hows it doing". obama looked like he was trying to shake hands and bow at the waist at the same time and then settled on shaking hands.

Honestly, that was my impression, as well. Like he got caught up in the moment and briefly forgot he's not supposed to bow, but then remembered at the last second. This is still not a big deal. I don't even mind the story coming out of the White House saying he bent over to shake his hand (although I don't believe it), but it sounds better than, "Well...he forgot."

Newsflash: Politicians will spin anything and their opposition will spin it the opposite way. Like all sensationalism, this too shall pass.

/Gibbs is right--can we move on, please? This is a non-issue.

bobbette: Would you bow to the King of Spain? The Emperor of Japan?

I wouldn't. I'd probably nod as politely as I'd nod to any other head of state. I wouldn't bow to the President of the US, I'd nod politely and shake his hand.

I would bow to the Queen. She's my head of state.

King of Spain? I don't know the polite protocol for Spain
Emperor of Japan? VERY low bow.
Queen Elizabeth? VERY low curtsy
President of the US? Firm handshake

Whether you're their subject or not, it's considered a gesture of respect for their title to greet the leader of his/her country appropriately according to the culture.

That being said, would you curtsy or bow to PM Brown or shake his hand? I'm inclined to say shake his hand. The Queen deserves a proper English curtsy, or at least that's what my Irish aunt always told me.

flavor of the month: it kind of looked like he had no idea what to do. sometimes i try to say "how ya doing" and "hows it going" at the same time, and i wind up saying "hows it doing".

like when you you're buying lunch or something, and you expect the cashier to say "have a nice day" and you respond "you too", only to then realize she said "enjoy your lunch".

she's not eating lunch! doh!

I missed the "oh snap" part of it. It was more "look, over there, it's an ECONOMY!"

This scare tactic crap is getting old after close to a decade.

came for the "but..but...what Obama really meant was...."


/are they STILL on the bowing to the Saudis? Is the White House still trying to lie about it and make it worse than it is?
//no click for HuffPo

There one of these dudes in my computer class who cant get over the fact that Obama bowed to the king. Out of all the things you can choose to not like about the guy, you pick this? Really?

We can't have the POTUS showing respect to foreign heads of state. Obama should've spat tobacco juice on his headdress, grabbed his crotch, stared that big sucker in the eye and said "the check is in the mail".

Who cares? Having said that, monarchs are for beheading not bowing to.

LOTHIAN: That's right but this is something a lot of peopleidiots are talking about today.

FTFY

Who the fark cares?

A better response would have been:

"[moment of silence]... Are you talking about a gesture Obama made when he met King Abdullah last week? Hahaha... ok, seriously, what's your question? ... oh, you were SERIOUS with that? [moment of silence] I'll give you another chance. What's your question?"

You've all missed the silver lining in that link: Dana Perino is still on the TeeVees.

Don't like her politics, but she sure is nice too look at.

/Donna Brazile, not so much.
//Not Wolfe either.

brigid_fitch: bobbette: Would you bow to the King of Spain? The Emperor of Japan?

I wouldn't. I'd probably nod as politely as I'd nod to any other head of state. I wouldn't bow to the President of the US, I'd nod politely and shake his hand.

I would bow to the Queen. She's my head of state.

King of Spain? I don't know the polite protocol for Spain
Emperor of Japan? VERY low bow.
Queen Elizabeth? VERY low curtsy
President of the US? Firm handshake

Whether you're their subject or not, it's considered a gesture of respect for their title to greet the leader of his/her country appropriately according to the culture.

That being said, would you curtsy or bow to PM Brown or shake his hand? I'm inclined to say shake his hand. The Queen deserves a proper English curtsy, or at least that's what my Irish aunt always told me.

This is what I was thinking. You are not their equal so show some damned respect. The president is their equal, but maybe a short bow for respect might do.

NRSC's Executive Director Rob Jesmer:
"In both instances, it's becoming increasingly apparent that our new President would rather be accepted and befriended by his new friends abroad, than preserve America's reputation and leadership as the world's pre-eminent superpower."

One bow, and it was all over for America.

Kiss the good ole days goodbye! As his head dipped, so did America's status, forever into oblivion..

Shaggy_C: I missed the "oh snap" part of it. It was more "look, over there, it's an ECONOMY!"

Off-topic deflection counts as an "oh snap" around here.

Shaggy_C: I missed the "oh snap" part of it. It was more "look, over there, it's an ECONOMY!"

This scare tactic crap is getting old after close to a decade.

The scare tactic of referring to the economy repetedly or the scare tactic of invoking some imaginary fealty that Obama has theoretically sworn to foreign interests? Both I guess.

Shaggy_C: I missed the "oh snap" part of it. It was more "look, over there, it's an ECONOMY!"

This scare tactic crap is getting old after close to a decade.

I know your a troll, but for fark sake, if you think a stupid bow is as important as the economy, there is something wrong with you. The reaction to this bow is a sad reflection of the current state of the conservatives in this nation.

What a refreshing change. It sure is nice having a President who doesn't think he can just do whatever he wants in the international community without regard to protocol or the subtle nuances of diplomacy....wait...uh...

If Obama ever comes to my house, he better take off his shoes. Respect my dojo, biatch.

Never underestimate the penchant of conservatives to devote Herculean amounts of effort into expressing outrage over the most trivial of issues.

gadian: This is what I was thinking. You are not their equal so show some damned respect. The president is their equal, but maybe a short bow for respect might do.

Sorry, but yeah, I am their equal. This is a fundamental basis of human rights. The days of godlike emperors and kings are over. No person should be bowing to another, unless it's the customary form of greeting (among equals).

brynaldo: "In both instances, it's becoming increasingly apparent that our new President would rather be accepted and befriended by his new friends abroad, than preserve America's reputation and leadership as the world's pre-eminent superpower."

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" works just as well.

crank: If Obama ever comes to my house, he better take off his pants. Respect my dojo, biatch.

kinky

bobbette: Hender: Lando Lincoln: Hender: if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

Yeah, but that's just horrible because...uh...then...you are...I don't know. But it's just horrible.

My girlfriend and her family are British. Can I get some sort of waiver that way?

Uh, you shouldn't bow, you're NOT her subject.

Would you bow to the King of Spain? The Emperor of Japan?

I wouldn't. I'd probably nod as politely as I'd nod to any other head of state. I wouldn't bow to the President of the US, I'd nod politely and shake his hand.

I would bow to the Queen. She's my head of state.

Would I? Yes I would attempt to show respect, and attempt tp not make any faux pas in that country.

That being said I am just an ordinary citizen... If I were president, a firm handshake is all the respect I need to show since we are both heads of state (or whatever kings, princes, chancellors and emperors are considered...).

I don't know about meeting the Emperor of Japan, but isn't the protocol for meeting the Prime Minister vomiting on him?

Shaggy_C: I missed the "oh snap" part of it. It was more "look, over there, it's an ECONOMY!"

This scare tactic crap is getting old after close to a decade.

Allow me to add the unspoken comment by Press Secretary Gibbs:

"You're a farking journalist, man. The country is going to hell in a handbasket, you're sitting here front and center, able to ask the representative of the executive branch any question you like, and you want to know about a stupid BOW? That happened a WEEK ago? Where did you go to Journalism school, Ivy Tech? What the hell is wrong with you?"

That's why it's an oh snap, even if that wasn't the oh snap Gibbs intended, and it's why it's on Fark - the site that points out how retarded the media are.

If he wanted to ask a partisan question to make the Obama administration squirm, you'd think he could choose something that's actually important, no?

Hender: neilnole: Well bowing to a "king", especially that one, gives me a good indication of his emotional backbone. If he bows to a "king" abroad chances are he will be bowing to political kings at home as well. Like, say for example, union bosses who control large voting blocks.

As I said in another thread the other day, if I found myself meeting Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of England and all Great Britain I'd probably bow to her. Why? I'm not subject to her, but it would be my first inclination because I see people doing that all the time in movies and whatnot. I'd do it as a sign of respect, even if I'm not her subject.

But then again, I don't have protocol officers and handlers like the President of the United States does. But still, I completely, honestly do not see the outrage over this. I find it odd, but not outrageous.

Buddy I am a Canadian, and in theory she is my queen, but I won't bow down to her. I'd shake her hand, that's about it.

My mom was a real monarchist, believed that the queen was above us (brainwashing victim...raised in the UK). I'd always remind her that the queen poops and pees just like me. First time I said that she had this odd look on her face, it was like in her entire life up to that time she never thought about the queen pooping.

Hender: brynaldo: "In both instances, it's becoming increasingly apparent that our new President would rather be accepted and befriended by his new friends abroad, than preserve America's reputation and leadership as the world's pre-eminent superpower."

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" works just as well.

I was going to make reference to that...forgot I guess. But it seems he prefers harsh words and, probably, exponentially larger sticks.

Dil Doe: Never underestimate the penchant of conservatives to devote Herculean amounts of effort into expressing outrage over the most trivial of issues.

When it's all you've got it's important to make the most of it. I eagerly await the coming outrage-fest over where Obama spends his Easter.

neilnole: Well bowing to a "king", especially that one, gives me a good indication of his emotional backbone.

Holding hands and kissing another man gives me a good indication of Bush's sexual backbone.

Get over it. We tried it your way. It failed. Deal with it.

I think Sharia law says that if you bow to the Queen of England, you become one of her 72 virgins. Or something.

/This is a stupid story, people. Let it go.

You know what else Gibbs said that was great? That Obama thinks upholding and one-upping the Bush administration's gross expansion of 'state secret' claims is awesome.

/Obama voter and canvasser. This bullshiat has to stop. NOW.

Between the bow and 'Potato Day' it is obvious that socialist fascism has finally arrived.

Jon Snow: You know what else Gibbs said that was great? That Obama thinks upholding and one-upping the Bush administration's gross expansion of 'state secret' claims is awesome.

/Obama voter and canvasser. This bullshiat has to stop. NOW.

Wait you want to focus on real issues? Getouttahere.

/yeah it's bullshait

burndtdan: flavor of the month: it kind of looked like he had no idea what to do. sometimes i try to say "how ya doing" and "hows it going" at the same time, and i wind up saying "hows it doing".

like when you you're buying lunch or something, and you expect the cashier to say "have a nice day" and you respond "you too", only to then realize she said "enjoy your lunch".

she's not eating lunch! doh!

Approves:

Protocol also states that
a) if you're Ash
b) and you've just saved a hottie from a Deadite

You get to say "Hail to the King baby" then dip her in a kiss.

/the more you know