One way or another, Steve Jobs will have laser beams coming out of his eyes. And you're the suckers that are funding it.

I know you all think you're doing the right thing by paying for mp3's, but to me the entire idea just seems utterly retarded.

if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

and just to make things clear, do you really think artists see any money from mp3 sales? they don't. they actually make less, LESS, than they do from the royalties they get from album sales, if that makes sense.

/downloads for free, what an odd concept.
//if I like it, I buy it (and go see them on tour or buy other merch if possible)
///if not, meh, deleted!
////brilliant!
//this message brought to you by the center for self control
//and slashies.

Shazam999: One way or another, Steve Jobs will have laser beams coming out of his eyes. And you're the suckers that are funding it.

Job is the one who's demanded the $0.99/track price. The labels, now that they've seen iTunes actually works and makes money (and now that they've finally realized that they've been sinking faster than the Titanic for a decade) are getting greedy and demanded the structure be changed to this new $0.69-$1.29/track model. They claimed that really popular tracks would be priced cheaper, but obviously, that's not happening.

So, to sum up, if you want someone to blame here, blame (as usual) the labels, for being so amazingly retarded it hurts all of us.

(If they'd drop prices to $0.50/track, they'd sell many times more downloads than the do now, but don't try to tell a label exec that.)

Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.

Shazam999: One way or another, Steve Jobs will have laser beams coming out of his eyes. And you're the suckers that are funding it.

As long we see them and know in our hearts our money went for something meaningful then that's all that matters.

Hender: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.

What happens if you don't buy records or mp3 to begin with and your house burns down???? You tell the insurance company you had a ton of records and mp3's then you profit.

Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand

I have problems finding stuff on iTunes I actually want to buy.

Anything popular can be procured via other means.

Anything too obscure to procure isn't on there.

If this tiered pricing will lure more obscure music, I'm all for it.

But it won't. So I will continue to procure.

Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

That's why you get two external hard drives and keep one at your house and the other at some other place.

deltabourne: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand

Lumber Jack Off: those $200 worth of songs

$200?! Christ, I think mine (would have) cost closer to $10K.

deltabourne: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand

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Win.

As a person who's iTunes recently decided that I'm not who I say I am and therefore shouldn't be allowed to listen to the few tracks I paid for or the games I bought, I'm... well not really getting a kick at all actually.

Apparently these classic tracks are only 50 cents:



/link's as hot as his career is cold.

Does anyone actually know of any good iTunes substitute that works with the new Ipod Touch firmware? I haven't really found anything good yet, and iTunes is like a virus.

I refuse to give them a penny of my money.

deltabourne: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand

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You may have one Internets.

Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

At least with digital copies you can make as many backups as you want. In fact, if you have an iPod, you already have 2 copies of your music; one on your computer and one on the iPod itself. Therefore, if your computer crashes, you just get copy the songs off the iPod.

Lumber Jack Off: I know you all think you're doing the right thing by paying for mp3's, but to me the entire idea just seems utterly retarded.

if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

and just to make things clear, do you really think artists see any money from mp3 sales? they don't. they actually make less, LESS, than they do from the royalties they get from album sales, if that makes sense.

/downloads for free, what an odd concept.
//if I like it, I buy it (and go see them on tour or buy other merch if possible)
///if not, meh, deleted!
////brilliant!
//this message brought to you by the center for self control
//and slashies.

How does it feel to be in a generational mindset on the decline? Should I get off your lawn?

Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

It's called an external hard drive. Most people use them to keep files they can't afford to lose if their computer does in fact crash.

bake2: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

At least with digital copies you can make as many backups as you want. In fact, if you have an iPod, you already have 2 copies of your music; one on your computer and one on the iPod itself. Therefore, if your computer crashes, you just get copy the songs off the iPod.

iTunes DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

/Although plenty of other programs do.

I never bought anything off of iJewnes. Never will.

Umm no kidding. I don't even know of many Barry White tracks that guarantee you 69.

I normally have to beg.

The Angry Hand of God: Does anyone actually know of any good iTunes substitute that works with the new Ipod Touch firmware? I haven't really found anything good yet, and iTunes is like a virus.

I refuse to give them a penny of my money.

Who is "them?" Apple makes very little money off the store content. I bet Apple makes more money off the hardware than off content over the life of the device.

The real joke is that great swaths of people think that it's normal to pay CD prices for 128k or slightly less-shiatty encoded tracks.
You folks in corporate give me a call when a huge catalog of music is available in FLAC or at least 320. Then we'll talk. Oh wait, it already is! You're not making it very appealing for people to stop using torrents, usenet, et al. I'm not condoning it; just telling you how it is.

Free lossless vs. CD-priced clipped highs and garbled lows = tough call.

bake2: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

At least with digital copies you can make as many backups as you want. In fact, if you have an iPod, you already have 2 copies of your music; one on your computer and one on the iPod itself. Therefore, if your computer crashes, you just get copy the songs off the iPod.

But they are shiatty MP3's with shiatty sound quality. I would rather own the disk and rip it lossless.

To be fair, the cheap music is all Canadian.

Stay Cool Babylon: The real joke is that great swaths of people think that it's normal to pay CD prices for 128k or slightly less-shiatty encoded tracks.
You folks in corporate give me a call when a huge catalog of music is available in FLAC or at least 320. Then we'll talk. Oh wait, it already is! You're not making it very appealing for people to stop using torrents, usenet, et al. I'm not condoning it; just telling you how it is.

Free lossless vs. CD-priced clipped highs and garbled lows = tough call.

Yeah. What he said.

Usenet. Let me show it you.

Calvin Coolidge: Usenet. Let me show it you.

You've already forgotten the first rule of usenet, haven't you?

Hender: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.

Don't be a moron. Hard drive crashes are very common, your analogy sucks dick

hbk72777: Hender: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.


Don't be a moron. Hard drive crashes are very common, your analogy sucks dick

Correct.I would wager that hard drive crashes happen a bit more frequently than houses burning down.

*Citation NOT needed*

$200 worth of physical albums? OK.

Ohmygod... hold on, one second!!

*click click click*

Whew!

Pirate Bay's still free. Carry on then.

I was expecting the Fall Out Boys and the like to be $1.29, while us self distributed types would be knocked down to $.69. As of now, our album is still $.99 per track. We'll see if that changes.

DJ El Macho: I was expecting the Fall Out Boys and the like to be $1.29, while us self distributed types would be knocked down to $.69. As of now, our album is still $.99 per track. We'll see if that changes.

Do you have a say in what you price songs at? I have never understood how it works.....

iTunes DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

UNECESSARY CAPS YES IT DOES!!

Link (new window)
it works i've done it multiple times

hbk72777: Hender: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.

Don't be a moron. Hard drive crashes are very common, your analogy sucks dick

Commonness has nothing to do with it, just that the "physical media is always better" argument isn't much better. I can backup my hard drive, I can RAID, whatever.

The Angry Hand of God: bake2: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

At least with digital copies you can make as many backups as you want. In fact, if you have an iPod, you already have 2 copies of your music; one on your computer and one on the iPod itself. Therefore, if your computer crashes, you just get copy the songs off the iPod.

iTunes DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

/Although plenty of other programs do.

Purchased copies, yes it does.

Non purchased or imported copies? Other programs, or fiddling with the file system.

Calvin Coolidge: Usenet. Let me show it you.

Usenet? Are you kidding me. It is entirely too difficult to use and there is almost no content if you do figure out how to use it. So, just STFU about Usenet.

/Seriously, don't talk about Usenet... ever

Calvin Coolidge: Usenet. Let me show it you.

You should get banned for even mentioning that virus ridden relic that hasn't had any new content since 93 when AOL bought it.

Stay Cool Babylon: You've already forgotten the first rule of usenet, haven't you?

There's nothing on the Usenet. Nothing whatsoever. It's slow and is only spam. Nobody should ever try to download anything from there. You should forget it even exists.

Meanwhile, there's eMusic. 15 bucks a month gets you 65 downloads. Roughly 23 cents per track. Unrestricted mp3s with no DRM.

So... suck my crank, iTunes.

My Zune subscription hasn't gone up in price.

/Makes me feel better, plus some of the channels/playlists are spiffy.
//I don't have speakers that could let me hear the difference between lossless and 128k.
///You're the people that buy $4/foot speaker wires, aren't you?

Where wolf: //I don't have speakers that could let me hear the difference between lossless and 128k.

Yes you do. You just aren't turning it up enough. The difference between 128 and FLAC is noticable on just about anything, unless the recording itself is poor.

This is why the Dead at one point started to ask people to stop trading mp3s and stick with FLAC.

why are people paying for Mp3s still? Are they worried about the RIAA boogeyman?

benlonghair: Where wolf: //I don't have speakers that could let me hear the difference between lossless and 128k.

Yes you do. You just aren't turning it up enough. The difference between 128 and FLAC is noticable on just about anything, unless the recording itself is poor.

This is why the Dead at one point started to ask people to stop trading mp3s and stick with FLAC.

If by the "Dead" you mean the Grateful Dead (and not some other monstrosity like "And you will know us by the trail of the dead"), I think you're wrong.

The Dead sounds awful at any volume with any compression format.

hbk72777: Hender: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

What happens if your house burns down? Oh shiat, those $200 worth of physical albums? Gone. Sucks to be you.

Don't be a moron. Hard drive crashes are very common, your analogy sucks dick

If your hard drive crashes you can log into your account and redownload your mp3s. If you house burns down you can't take your receipts and get free replacements.

The Angry Hand of God: bake2: Lumber Jack Off: if I'm going to pay for something, I want something I can hold in my hand, like a cd or a record. what happens if your computer crashes? oh shiat, those $200 worth of songs? gone. sucks to be you.

At least with digital copies you can make as many backups as you want. In fact, if you have an iPod, you already have 2 copies of your music; one on your computer and one on the iPod itself. Therefore, if your computer crashes, you just get copy the songs off the iPod.

iTunes DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

/Although plenty of other programs do.

actually it does work that way. I've copied straight from my iPod to another person's PC with out the aid of 3rd party products. Just navigate into the folders on the iPod and select what you want and copy it over. Pretty simple to do actually.

But I thought music was free on the Internets?

Bob Ondeeznuts: ou tell the insurance company you had a ton of records

You have to be carefull with that. Some insurance companies have stringent policies when it comes to insuring collections. If you try to say you hav over 2000 LPs from the 70s, they'll say: "well you din't no have a collector's clause in your policy. Sorry".

and mp3's

Most insurance policies do not cover electronic data. They also have a clause against people who use 's for plural.

then you profit.

Nope.

Spell check is for wimps.