That, and some pics of his cute, cute drummer.

Don't worry subby, it IS another White Stripes album.

/meg white is hot

MORE DAMNIT!

In before the dozen or so inevitable "Meg White can't drum" posts.

Talondel: In before the dozen or so inevitable "Meg White can't drum" posts.

She can bang my bongos anytime.

/Decide on a band and stick with it, or stay a solo act ferchrissakes!

Sometimes I think I am the only one who thinks Meg White is not all that hot.

I do love the White Stripes and the Raconteurs though. Not too sure about these guys yet. I'll have to hear the record.

...when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes Loretta Lynn album.

DjangoStonereaver: Talondel: In before the dozen or so inevitable "Meg White can't drum" posts.

She can bang my bongos anytime.

/Decide on a band and stick with it, or stay a solo act ferchrissakes!

Or he can just do whatever he wants. A lot of guys like running around with different musicians. It's probably more traditional in the long run than sticking with one "band."

/Meg White has certified nukes

JerseyTim: ...when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes Loretta Lynn album.

We can only hope.

I also really like The Raconteurs so I am interested in hearing this.

So while his new band, the Dead Weather-- with Jack on drums and vocals, Kills singer Alison Mosshart on vocals, Queens of the Stone Age's Dean Fertita on guitar, and the Raconteurs' Jack Lawrence on bass

I dont know The Kills but I do like a good female lead singer. Here is hoping for the best.

DjangoStonereaver: Talondel: In before the dozen or so inevitable "Meg White can't drum" posts.

She can bang my bongos anytime.

/Decide on a band and stick with it, or stay a solo act ferchrissakes!

Yeah---be more like Neil Young

She's good from the navel up. Down...not so much.

A quick internet search tells me that apprently Meg appeared in a sex tape? Is this legit?

Pope_of_Chilitown: A quick internet search tells me that apprently Meg appeared in a sex tape? Is this legit?

Never seen it, but most sources say no.

Pope_of_Chilitown: A quick internet search tells me that apprently Meg appeared in a sex tape? Is this legit?

Nope, seen it, Not her.

Jack White can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to limit his creativity to one outlet. Submitter is a jackass who just wants to listen to "Seven Nation Army" over and over and over again.

"That, and some pics of his cute, cute drummer."


I've seen road kill cuter then that one...

Oh and please no more White Stripes, humanity doesn't disserve that much punishment.

TSE: Jack White can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to limit his creativity to one outlet. Submitter is a jackass who just wants to listen to "Seven Nation Army" over and over and over again.

*applause*

well, someone wants to blow Jack White

JW is so cool! How many dudes out there openly cheat on their ex-wife?

actually, i quite like the raconteurs. not sure about this new thing, though.

monkeymaker: JW is so cool! How many dudes out there openly cheat on their ex-wife?

How does one cheat on an ex-wife, pray tell?

Slu: Sometimes I think I am the only one who thinks Meg White is not all that hot.

You're not alone. She's okay, she's got a nice rack but she's not really worth drooling over.

Hender: How does one cheat on an ex-wife, pray tell?

I was confused by this as well. Maybe he meant with another band. U dunno.

Slu: Sometimes I think I am the only one who thinks Meg White is not all that hot.

I agree with you on this. If it wasn't for the big boobies nobody would give her a second look.

MDGeist: please no more White Stripes, humanity doesn't disserve that much punishment.

Absolutely. Still don't see the appeal -- and I really really tried.

Talondel: In before the dozen or so inevitable "Meg White can't drum" posts.

She can't. What's your point?

well she's clearly not as good at drumming as all us desk jockey's, that's why we're jockeying desks and she's...wait

Architecture Of Aggression: well she's clearly not as good at drumming as all us desk jockey's, that's why we're jockeying desks and she's...wait

Maybe she got promoted for mastering punctuation. She started in the mail room, you know.

Marla Singer's Laundry: Architecture Of Aggression: well she's clearly not as good at drumming as all us desk jockey's, that's why we're jockeying desks and she's...wait

Maybe she got promoted for mastering punctuation. She started in the mail room, you know.

Count it.

TSE: jackass who just wants to listen to "Seven Nation Army" over and over and over again.

Youtube playlist of 14 versions of "Seven nation Army" (from one genre to last one with others in between)

The Thermals? Busdriver? Cymbals Eat Guitar??? Sweet. That site gave me all the obscure hipster musical references I'll ever need. Best part is I don't even have to listen to them - I already know they suck. I can't wait to throw out the new My Morning Jacket EP into casual conversation and watch all of my listeners squirm.

/until they're all mainstream and uncool next month

submitter: when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes album to retire and never be heard from in public again.

fixed for me.

when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes album

Forget the White Stripes. The Raconteurs should be his full time band.

Ray Lamontagne's 'Meg White' (new window)

Ant: Forget the White Stripes. The Raconteurs should be his full time band.

Agreed. But I still luvs me some Meg.

frostus: She can't. What's your point?

Yes, she can. I've seen her do it. She hits the drums and it makes noise. It most cases when I've seen her do this, she actually manages to continue to hit the drums so that they make noise roughly on beat for the length of an entire song.

What's more, she's actually been recorded while playing the drums. That is to say, there is phono-graphic evidence of this fact in existence. Apparently, roughly 12 million copies of this evidence exist.

Of course, it is possible that what you meant to say is that she can't play the drums *well*. While that is a subjective statement, and therefore one that cannot be readily disproved, I find the majority of the arguments in favor of that position to be unconvincing.

For example, some point out the fact that her drum beats are generally simple and repetitive, and are the kind of thing that anyone who can beat The Endless Setlist in Rockband on Medium difficulty could probably reproduce. However, this is analogous to people who criticize the art of Mondrian or Pollock as "something their eight year old could do." The mere fact that art or music is simple enough that those with little skill or training are able to replicate it after hearing or seeing it does not necessarily reduce it's value as art.

White Stripes was conceived as a minimalist music project. As such, what the drums do not play is as important as what they do play. Just as the empty spaces in a Mondrian composition are as important as the colored ones. To put it another way, I doubt that the White Stripes would have gotten very far along their intended path with Keith Moon on drums.

Meg White provides the drums that the White Stripes need in order to maintain the sound they are looking for. You may like that sound or you may not, but this does not change the fact that she understands what her role in that sound is and fills it very well. Perhaps she would be capable of playing the the drum part for Don't Get Fooled Again just like Moon would have, and perhaps she would not. However, even if she could, that fact would in no way diminish Moon's skill in playing for the Who, and more than the fact that I could copy Meg White's drumming reduces her skill in playing for the White Stripes.

Hang from the Heavens sounds pretty good.

Am I the only one waiting for a new Brendan Benson record?

Talondel: frostus: She can't. What's your point?

Of course, it is possible that what you meant to say is that she can't play the drums *well*. While that is a subjective statement

That's not true. Her drumming is irregular, in that she doesn't hit the drums at the times she needs to hit them in order to keep a steady rhythm. She "slips" quite frequently - i.e., is either "early" or "late", rhythmically. That much is not "subjective" in the same way that 2+2=4 is not "subjective".

I suppose what you mean to say is that the opinion "a good drummer is one that can keep a steady, on-time beat" is subjective. Which... ok, you can believe that if you want, but if how well you can keep a steady beat is not a watermark for how well you can play percussion instruments, than what is?


For example, some point out the fact that her drum beats are generally simple and repetitive, and are the kind of thing that anyone who can beat The Endless Setlist in Rockband on Medium difficulty could probably reproduce. However, this is analogous to people who criticize the art of Mondrian or Pollock as "something their eight year old could do."

...a valid critisism, IMO, but more on that in a sec...


The mere fact that art or music is simple enough that those with little skill or training are able to replicate it after hearing or seeing it does not necessarily reduce it's value as art.

I subjectively disagree. Art is as much a skill as it is a creation, and if ANYONE who is awake can do the same thing you just did, then I hesitate to call you an artist - even if your "creation" is something I like.

Pollock and Mondrain are not artists, as I believe the term should apply, and I say that as a person who likes the occational Mondrain on the wall. (Pollock is especially crap, IMO.)


White Stripes was conceived as a minimalist music project. As such, what the drums do not play is as important as what they do play.

It's not what she does or doesn't play that's the problem. The problem is that she POORLY plays the (very) little she's supposed to, even for a minimalistic project.

Who cares how well Meg can drum so long as she continues drumming braless.

Jack White announces first public show for yet another band he's put together, when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes album that he go back to the garage and learn how to be a good musician

I'd rather watch a Menudo reunion in 20 years...

TemperedEdge: Jack White announces first public show for yet another band he's put together, when all that's really requested of him is another White Stripes album that he go back to the garage and learn how to be a good musician

I'd rather watch a Menudo reunion in 20 years...

Of course you would. Which explains why you think Jack White isn't a superb guitarist.

damnitjohnny: Who cares how well Meg can drum so long as she continues drumming braless.

I won't want to see that in 5 years.

I'm sort of surprised there isn't a tag for pitchfork yet

WaltzingMathilda: Of course you would. Which explains why you think Jack White isn't a superb guitarist.

If Jack White is a superb guitarist, then I've got some beachfront property in Arizona I want to sell you.

TemperedEdge: WaltzingMathilda: Of course you would. Which explains why you think Jack White isn't a superb guitarist.

If Jack White is a superb guitarist, then I've got some beachfront property in Arizona I want to sell you.

Man, you're really messing up today. You don't have any such property.

TemperedEdge: WaltzingMathilda: Of course you would. Which explains why you think Jack White isn't a superb guitarist.

If Jack White is a superb guitarist, then I've got some beachfront property in Arizona I want to sell you.

And you've obviously never listened to Ball in a Biscuit all the way through.

WorLord:

That's not true. Her drumming is irregular, in that she doesn't hit the drums at the times she needs to hit them in order to keep a steady rhythm. She "slips" quite frequently - i.e., is either "early" or "late", rhythmically. That much is not "subjective" in the same way that 2+2=4 is not "subjective".

Which is partly why I noted in the previous sentence that she "manages to continue to hit the drums so that they make noise roughly on beat for the length of an entire song." Yes, I hear her make mistakes. This does not change the fact that the drumming in the song served its purpose.

I suppose what you mean to say is that the opinion "a good drummer is one that can keep a steady, on-time beat" is subjective. Which... ok, you can believe that if you want, but if how well you can keep a steady beat is not a watermark for how well you can play percussion instruments, than what is?

Well, I would propose that one such measure is just how well the sounds your drumming makes fits with the sounds of the other musicians that are playing at the time. In other words, are you actually succeeding in making music with the other musicians.

I subjectively disagree. Art is as much a skill as it is a creation, and if ANYONE who is awake can do the same thing you just did, then I hesitate to call you an artist - even if your "creation" is something I like.

Pollock and Mondrain are not artists, as I believe the term should apply, and I say that as a person who likes the occational Mondrain on the wall. (Pollock is especially crap, IMO.)

Here is where you and I disagree philosophically, I suspect. I wouldn't hang a Pollock up in my house, but I do recognize that it is Art. There is value in the idea of something, even if anyone else could execute it. Sure anyone *could* paint a Mondrian but he was the one who actually did it. He created a style that was his own, and while others can easily copy it, any time you see a pattern of black lines and primary colored squares on a white background, you still think "Mondrian". Similarly, the White Stripes songs have a unique style, and part of it is the quirky, imperfect, simple drum parts.

It's not what she does or doesn't play that's the problem. The problem is that she POORLY plays the (very) little she's supposed to, even for a minimalistic project.

There isn't a Johnny Cash song ever recorded where you can't hear him making some kind of a mistake on the guitar. You can't get much simpler than Cash's guitar parts, so there's really no excuse. Does this mean he's a terrible musician? I think he's still the only person inducted into both the Rock and Roll hall of Fame and the Country Music Hall of Fame. He must have been doing something right. He probably understood that technical mastery of the guitar isn't a prerequisite to making great music.

Similarly, Meg White knows enough about music to stay the heck out of the way and let Jack do his thing. If your point is that she doesn't even manage to do *that* well, then we simply disagree about how well she executed it. To me that's like arguing about whether Pollock should have dribbled that paint *here* or *there*. If you don't like dribbled paint it doesn't much matter where he put it.

Bottom line is she plays the drums, she makes music, and even makes a living doing it. If that isn't drumming, then what is?

Meg White can't drum. Anyone who says otherwise is defending their hipster boner for ugly chicks.