I hope the firefighters will be required to wear earplugs when testing the smoke alarms as the beeping noise may cause damage to their hearing.

WTF ? The article debunks its own central claim:

The rule has been introduced...with the aim of speeding up smoke alarm fitting and checks.

eqtworld: First they won't let cops have guns

Even if that were true, which it isn't, more police officers have been shot dead in the USA since January of this year than in the UK since 1985. Clearly it's we who are doing something wrong...

eqtworld: First they won't let cops have guns, now they take ladders from fighter fighters, what's next?

Safety scalpels.

As an ex fireman this makes me want to cry. This country is having its testicles ripped out by rule-making twats.

FarkinNortherner: WTF ? The article debunks its own central claim

and you're surprised by this? did you not see the Daily Fail tag?

ne2d: and you're surprised by this? did you not see the Daily Fail tag?

This is true. Lets face it, we're lucky this was in coherent english in the first place.

FTA

"In 2002 Gloucestershire Fire Brigade became the first in Britain to ban firefighters from sliding down the fire polices at their stations in case they hurt themselves - instead they were told to take the stairs."

Wow, spiffy!

They have fire polices!!!!

Well, it would be quicker at least. I might have to save a pole around here for just that purpose; then I wouldn't have to carry my stepladder upstairs to check the kids rooms.

FTA I've been up a 300ft ladder with my hosepipe in my hand

If that is what is goig on at the firehouse, I am glad that I went into EMS instead.

No wonder they always seem so happy and fabulous!!

We can't afford to lose no horses firemen! Send a couple of n#ggers Poles.

Seriously--you really do need a new phrase. Seeing 20 new "Nanny State" threads greenlighted every day on the main page has made Fark worse than boring...it has made it tediously unoriginal.

So many good headlines that people actually put some time and thought into get passed over so that more and more "Nanny State" headlines can get the auto-green.

Sad to see.

The hoses are dangerous, and those hydrants
are very hard on a good manicure..

Sure, it's unsafe for the British, but it's fine to hire a foreigner.

/I wonder how many Poles it takes.

Subby, we hate to keep harping on about the Daily Fail, but if you really think that their 'journalism' is accurate you are an idiot.

Glasgowsfinest: ne2d: and you're surprised by this? did you not see the Daily Fail tag?

This is true. Lets face it, we're lucky this was in coherent english in the first place.

FTA: "In 2002 Gloucestershire Fire Brigade became the first in Britain to ban firefighters from sliding down the fire polices at their stations in case they hurt themselves - instead they were told to take the stairs."

They did almost manage an entire article, so props to them.

FTA:

"We will be banned from tackling fires because they can get quite hot"

This probably is the best idea. It's really not safe to run into a burning building. Obviously you fellas haven't figured this one out on your own, so someone needs to step in for your own good.

King Something

Beat me to it.

FarkinNortherner: WTF ? The article debunks its own central claim:

The rule has been introduced...with the aim of speeding up smoke alarm fitting and checks.

eqtworld: First they won't let cops have guns

Even if that were true, which it isn't, more police officers have been shot dead in the USA since January of this year than in the UK since 1985. Clearly it's we who are doing something wrong...

That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

And people will continue to call Americans morans if they believe the Daily Mail's bullshiat.

FarkinNortherner: WTF ? The article debunks its own central claim:

The rule has been introduced...with the aim of speeding up smoke alarm fitting and checks.

eqtworld: First they won't let cops have guns

Even if that were true, which it isn't, more police officers have been shot dead in the USA since January of this year than in the UK since 1985. Clearly it's we who are doing something wrong...

RosevilleDan: Seriously--you really do need a new phrase. Seeing 20 new "Nanny State" threads greenlighted every day on the main page has made Fark worse than boring...it has made it tediously unoriginal.

So many good headlines that people actually put some time and thought into get passed over so that more and more "Nanny State" headlines can get the auto-green.

Sad to see.

Boo-hoo. Install Farky and block them.

"The firefighters can use the rod to fit the smoke detectors and then carry out the home safety visit meaning that they are done quicker and can fit more in."

Oh. So it's a good thing. But I want to believe that Britain is going all wrong and sissified. Not fair. Hopefully another Daily Mail Nanny State link will be posted soon. I love them. They are very clever and good. Mmm.

They could fall and hurt there teeth,,,, Oh yea.

gruntmints: That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

wiki list of countries by intentional homicide rate (new window)

USA 2003 - 5.7 per 100,000
UK 2003 - 2.03 per 100,000

baka-san: FTA

"In 2002 Gloucestershire Fire Brigade became the first in Britain to ban firefighters from sliding down the fire polices at their stations in case they hurt themselves - instead they were told to take the stairs."

Wow, spiffy!

They have fire polices!!!!

They're like super heroes - fire and police.

However, it's worth mentioning that most UK firemen arse around in taxis all day and turn up at the fire station when they feel like being handy.

And they smoke.

walnuts55 Poor joke, miserably executed.

12349876: gruntmints: That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

wiki list of countries by intentional homicide rate (new window)

USA 2003 - 5.7 per 100,000
UK 2003 - 2.03 per 100,000

The argument of more people = more assholes still stands, you know.

[headline] instead of harping off?

Why does Fark blame the state for this? The fault is clearly insurance agencies and their policies. no state wants to waste money and manpower on this sort of crap. no state can afford to waste it's money and labour this way.

Wouldn't it be too dangerous for the Poles to climb ladders too?
chutes.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
What German in their right mind would care about genetic purity?

Iron Chef Scottish: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
What German in their right mind would care about genetic purity?

Hush you, back into the oven.

We hate to keep harping on about the Nanny State, but when... Ahhh, who are we kidding. We LOVE laughing at our Anglo-Saxon mates across the pond! Certainly beats watching Jimmy Fallon...

(Gaelic folk (Welsh, Scotch and N. Irish) are excused, as you people have FAR more intelligence and sense than ANY English person ever could)

As an American Volunteer Firefighter, let me remind the UK's "Authority" of one very important thing:

Firefighters are trained to risk their own lives, albeit as safely as they can, in order to do their jobs and prevent any loss (or further loss) of life first and property second. When you start being all namby-pamby about what firefighters can and can't do in the line of duty, you're only setting yourself up for disaster.

Repent, save lives.

hyperspacemonkey: Why does Fark blame the state for this? The fault is clearly insurance agencies and their policies. no state wants to waste money and manpower on this sort of crap. no state can afford to waste it's money and labour this way.

Maybe because it's the 100th example of a Nanny State policy that has been enacted in Britian.

eqtworld: When you criminalize ladders, only criminals will have ladders

You just want the cute fireman to climb a ladder so you can look at his butt.

hyperspacemonkey: Why does Fark blame the state for this? The fault is clearly insurance agencies and their policies.

So the British State is subservient to its private insurance companies? Either your claim is false, or it reveals a *seriously* pathetic state of affairs.

gruntmints: Also...

http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Special_Rolls/Homicides/Homicide_List_1900.htm

http://www.odmp.org/year.php

Winktologist: Boo-hoo. Install Farky and block them.

I'm not upset by people (including Fark admins) demonstrating their credulousness.

jshine: hyperspacemonkey: Why does Fark blame the state for this? The fault is clearly insurance agencies and their policies.

So the British State is subservient to its private insurance companies? Either your claim is false, or it reveals a *seriously* pathetic state of affairs.

Either his claim is false, or it's exactly how things work here on this side of the pond, too.

/fear of litigation runs strong in this country

TemperedEdge: We hate to keep harping on about the Nanny State, but when... Ahhh, who are we kidding. We LOVE laughing at our Anglo-Saxon mates across the pond! Certainly beats watching Jimmy Fallon...

(Gaelic folk (Welsh, Scotch and N. Irish) are excused, as you people have FAR more intelligence and sense than ANY English person ever could)

As an American Volunteer Firefighter, let me remind the UK's "Authority" of one very important thing:

Firefighters are trained to risk their own lives, albeit as safely as they can, in order to do their jobs and prevent any loss (or further loss) of life first and property second. When you start being all namby-pamby about what firefighters can and can't do in the line of duty, you're only setting yourself up for disaster.

Repent, save lives.

Yes, perhaps those smart Welsh, Scot and Irish folks could read the article to you, since you are clearly incapable of doing so...

The rule has been introduced by Bedfordshire and Luton Fire and Rescue Service which is handing out 13ft fishing rod-style poles with the aim of speeding up smoke alarm fitting and checks.

They could also explain that the Daily Fail is a paper that enjoys twisting every stupid bit of news into a narrative about how Britain is going to the dogs (as mentioned in the posts above) which is why a story about a time saving technique in a non-emergency situation becomes a story about firemen not being allowed to climb ladders.

/wouldnt normally snap, but racism does irk
//old chap

I've been up a 300ft ladder with my hosepipe in my hand

Braggin a bit, isn't he?

/Foot long here...
//when folded in half, that is.

hyperspacemonkey: Why does Fark blame the state for this? The fault is clearly insurance agencies and their policies. no state wants to waste money and manpower on this sort of crap. no state can afford to waste it's money and labour this way.

Yeah, because entities that rely on coercion rather than value for their funding are all about efficiency and never waste time or money.

What's this? A Daily Mail article that makes the UK look bad?! Say it ain't so!!!

A spokesman for Bedfordshire and Luton Fire and Rescue Service said the equipment was being rolled out because it was an efficient method of fitting detectors.

He said: 'The firefighters can use the rod to fit the smoke detectors and then carry out the home safety visit meaning that they are done quicker and can fit more in.

'The equipment allows smoke detectors to be quickly and effectively fitted to ceilings up to four metres high.


'It is an efficient method and enables BLFRS staff to fit more detectors in people's homes thus increasing public safety which is our aim.'

FTFA

12349876: gruntmints: That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

wiki list of countries by intentional homicide rate (new window)

USA 2003 - 5.7 per 100,000
UK 2003 - 2.03 per 100,000

When did Wiki become a reliable source of information?

jshine: So the British State is subservient to its private insurance companies? Either your claim is false, or it reveals a *seriously* pathetic state of affairs.

You're surely not under the impression that the actions of government employees (and it doesn't matter a jot which country they're in) are not impacted by public liability concerns, the risk of which is privately insured against ?

Is it nice under your rock ?

Kaymon: When did Wiki become a reliable source of information?

Since the started citing everything.

Kaymon: 12349876: gruntmints: That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

wiki list of countries by intentional homicide rate (new window)

USA 2003 - 5.7 per 100,000
UK 2003 - 2.03 per 100,000

When did Wiki become a reliable source of information?

Disprove it.

12349876: gruntmints: That's nice. UK Population: approximately 60 million. US population: approximately 300 million. Crime does indeed rise with a higher population. Who knew. Also...

wiki list of countries by intentional homicide rate (new window)

USA 2003 - 5.7 per 100,000
UK 2003 - 2.03 per 100,000

Hmmn. While we're throwing around numbers like they mean something...

According to FBI statistics, do you know which racial backgrounds are responsible for a highly disproportionate amount of the violent crimes in the U.S.? (The Census Bureau counts Latino / Hispanic as Caucasian in their general "Black, White, Other" statistics. While this simplifies reporting, it also has the unfortunate side effect of recording a number of minority crimes under the "Caucasian" entry, inflating the reported numbers.)

Southern Africa, 31.7
Central America, 29.3
South America, 25.9
West and Central Africa, 21.6
East Africa, 20.8
Africa, 20

Oh hai!

Clearly this is the fault of the .8% African descent and .4% "other" are not doing their fair share of murdering each other in the UK.

/can take the African out of Africa, but you can't take the Africa out of Africans... or something.

Jammybee

And people will continue to call Americans morans if they believe the Daily Mail's bullshiat.

Times of London - New safety rule for firefighters: stay off that ladder

Evening Standard - Firefighters banned from using stepladders

Why do I suspect that politics has more than a little to do with this "Daily Mail is bullshiat" or "Daily Fail" crap? To wit, the Mail not always delivering the left/liberal approved BBC-type version of the news?

Kaymon: When did Wiki become a reliable source of information?

Which of these specifically are you challenging?

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