I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

Yup. That's how I raise mine. You know you're doing it right when the teacher writes the word, and they not only know it, they can use it properly in a sentence.

jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

I learned mine from my parents, too, but not at home. I learned them in the car.

I admit, I would laugh if it was my kid. Still kind of a WTF idea.

Ni!: jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

Yup. That's how I raise mine. You know you're doing it right when the teacher writes the word, and they not only know it, they can use it properly in a sentence.

I remember my father used to swear up a storm at the simplest thing. He always used to tell me, son "Do as I say, no as I do." Which i did and got sent home from school in grade 2 for saying the F word really loud in class. Then I was yelled at by my dad while he was swearing up a storm.

Good times.

What's wrong with teaching the whole language and when certain words are appropriate to use?

My sophomore year English teacher played for us George Carlin's 7 Words You Can't Say On Television and then read that funny essay on how the word "fark" fits into just about every part of speech imaginable.

It was all done in the name of teaching us the versatility of the English language.

Recess?

I cursed worse than a sailor and a cribber combined in grade one.

When my kid started swearing I made sure they knew what they meant and when they could be used. All part of a full education.

Been there, done that.

There are social cues that indicate when such language is appropriate and kids need to learn how to pick up on these. I'm not sure if teaching them in a formal setting like a classroom is very appropriate. However, in terms of literary analysis I can see how it can be appropriate. For example, spot Shakespeare's pun:

HAMLET Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
[Lying down at OPHELIA's feet]
OPHELIA No, my lord.
HAMLET I mean, my head upon your lap?
OPHELIA Ay, my lord.
HAMLET Do you think I meant country matters?
OPHELIA I think nothing, my lord.
HAMLET That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.

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George Carlin taught me everything I need to know about bad language.

fark the farking farkers

FTA: were forced to grow up faster than their parents want.

Yeah, that "real life" thing really sucks.

It's funny because these words have no power until they choose to react to them. Or it's just sad.

Dark sarcasm in the classroom?

thisispete: There are social cues that indicate when such language is appropriate and kids need to learn how to pick up on these. I'm not sure if teaching them in a formal setting like a classroom is very appropriate. However, in terms of literary analysis I can see how it can be appropriate. For example, spot Shakespeare's pun:

HAMLET Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
[Lying down at OPHELIA's feet]
OPHELIA No, my lord.
HAMLET I mean, my head upon your lap?
OPHELIA Ay, my lord.
HAMLET Do you think I meant country matters?
OPHELIA I think nothing, my lord.
HAMLET That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.

::chuckles appreciatively::

/Thank you. Never got a chance to read hamlet.
//Reduced Shakespeare company FTW!

We were taught usage of expletives in grade school grammar. We weren't taught any cuss words specifically (hellshiatdamnasslickinghorsefarker we knew many by then) but we were taught the way to use them. Perhaps that's why our school produced a couple of well known writers.

The one thing that kinda sucks teaching ESL to kids vs. adults is that I always have to avoid talking about parts of language that are "not appropriate" for children.* I know that if I did a lesson on swearing it would be the only class were every student paid full attention.


*Never mind that the kids already know a most English curse words from movies and TV and that I'd only be teaching them how to use them properly so they don't make fools of themselves.

/It is funny to hear a bunch of Korean middle schoolers yelling "oh shat" and "puck you" though.

Space_Fetus: Ni!: jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

Yup. That's how I raise mine. You know you're doing it right when the teacher writes the word, and they not only know it, they can use it properly in a sentence.

I remember my father used to swear up a storm at the simplest thing. He always used to tell me, son "Do as I say, no as I do." Which i did and got sent home from school in grade 2 for saying the F word really loud in class. Then I was yelled at by my dad while he was swearing up a storm.

Good times.

Yeah, I too learned swears from my father and got suspended for doing it.

It was accidental. Some douchebag of a kid was standing in my way and I kept asking him to move. He wouldn't. I said "get the f*ck out of my way."

Some kid told on me (little f*cker) and I was sent home.

All I wanted to do was go around him. But he wouldn't!

/runs away crying at the horror of this memory.

My only suspension/write ups in school came from foul language.farking teachers.

I was in 6th grade when we had "the lesson in swearing." Poor teacher had to give us the whole "where babies come from" spiel because some of the kids were so young and so hopelessly clueless. Small Lutheran school, and my teacher was a former Canadian Mountie. I feel privileged to be able to claim I was schooled in sex by Dudley Do Right.

So, what were these cuss words? Were they really inappropriate words a la "fark."?

Were they slang words for body parts like "p.ussy" or "d.ick" that the teachers were trying to discuss how they relate to relationships and the parents are just making a big deal out of nothing?

I'm betting it was the latter.

While driving like a woman in Saint Louis traffic (I'll admit it), as I practically got myself and two nephews killed, I yelled out, "Fark!"

Discovering we were alive and driving on, from the back seat comes, "Um, we know that one, you can say it. It won't hurt us." But that was what I intended to say- I don't swear a lot, and would rather use creative swears than the run of the mill versions. They latched on to it and went home with that new vocabulary addition. Their father would prefer if they actually swore because they taught it to all their friends and keep getting into trouble at school.

Wait until they discover the site.

Chinchillazilla: jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

I learned mine from my parents, too, but not at home. I learned them in the car.

hilarious

"Most kids had no idea what the words meant and were forced to grow up faster than their parents want would."

The kids in the class already knew the word and how to use them correctly in a sentence long before this teacher put them on the board.


More than likely the teacher got tired of them screaming out the wrong expletive in class and decided to teach them the proper use.

FTA: "Heads should roll for this."

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I learned from YOU, alright!

/I also learned about hot linking from watching my dad.

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If those people seriously think those 11-year-old kids didn't know those words already, and were "forced to grow up too fast" because they heard them in school, they're seriously deluding themselves.

More likely they're just being farking dramatic.

Just like Ralphie parker, I learned them from dad.

My parents didn't curse at home. It wasn't until my first day of public school I learned the really good words.

Didn't know you could use "Jezis" as an expletive until then, either.

zephyrkate: While driving like a woman in Saint Louis traffic (I'll admit it), as I practically got myself and two nephews killed, I yelled out, "Fark!"

Discovering we were alive and driving on, from the back seat comes, "Um, we know that one, you can say it. It won't hurt us." But that was what I intended to say- I don't swear a lot, and would rather use creative swears than the run of the mill versions. They latched on to it and went home with that new vocabulary addition. Their father would prefer if they actually swore because they taught it to all their friends and keep getting into trouble at school.

Wait until they discover the site.

I'm just waiting for my kids to start using "fark" or "frak". . . My daughter was only 4 when she was busted by a neighbor for saying "What the hell are you doing?" in an oh so innocent voice. My neighbor had to seriously fight the urge to laugh out loud. That was back when I didn't swear at all around the kids. . . she picked it up from tv. (honest!) Of course I'm a little more lax now. . . but they're going to learn it from somewhere.

"This is a total disgrace," a parent said. "Our children go to school to gain an education, not qualifications in swear words. Most kids had no idea what the words meant and were forced to grow up faster than their parents want. Heads should roll for this."

How dare they learn things they didn't know before, while all you wanted was an education!

frak you all.

OutsmartBullet: "This is a total disgrace," a parent said. "Our children go to school to gain an education, not qualifications in swear words. Most kids had no idea what the words meant and were forced to grow up faster than their parents want. Heads should roll for this."

How dare they learn things they didn't know before, while all you wanted was an education!

thisispete: There are social cues that indicate when such language is appropriate and kids need to learn how to pick up on these. I'm not sure if teaching them in a formal setting like a classroom is very appropriate. However, in terms of literary analysis I can see how it can be appropriate. For example, spot Shakespeare's pun:

HAMLET Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
[Lying down at OPHELIA's feet]
OPHELIA No, my lord.
HAMLET I mean, my head upon your lap?
OPHELIA Ay, my lord.
HAMLET Do you think I meant country matters?
OPHELIA I think nothing, my lord.
HAMLET That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.

This. So very this.

If parents truly knew what was going on in Shakespeare, they would freak out and you'd never hear from Shakespeare... in high school, anyway.

I taught MacBeth during my student teaching and had to skirt around a lot of things so that I could avoid getting in trouble, and also avoid the kids' reactions to it... which would mean a 30-minute distraction.

My little one, just learning to read, pointed to the Jesus Loves Me shirt her friend was wearing and said, "Ooooh... the J word is a SWEAR!"

Because the way it's usually used in this house, it is...

"JEEZUS Keerist, knock off that noise!!"

namegoeshere: My little one, just learning to read, pointed to the Jesus Loves Me shirt her friend was wearing and said, "Ooooh... the J word is a SWEAR!"

Because the way it's usually used in this house, it is...

"JEEZUS Keerist, knock off that noise!!"


Dammit, get out of the street!

But, dad . . . I'm Jesus Christ!



/ William H. Cosby, Jr., PhD, FTW

We were kinda taught this in my 10th grade English class. I mean, not that we didn't know the words already, but...

Although instead of fark she used "firetruck"...

(Although -I- think it would be useful if they taught all of the racial slurs available in school, that way people don't use them accidentally...)

/i actually did think he raced camels...

Ah hell, I was direct when I was a kid, I asked my mother what the worst swear was.

She said "the worse swear is fark." and she didn't try to sensor it. Then she told me what it meant.

/then she lead me to George Carlin
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///I love me mum

jekxrb: I learned all my swear words where children should: at home, from my parents.

Yep, I once got spanked and grounded for saying "damn" in front of my Mom. Later that evening, she used the same word, and I said something like "If I can't use it, you can't either." Got another spanking, and the "do as I say, not as I do" lecture.

Zulgaines: My only suspension/write ups in school came from foul language.farking teachers.

I was once given 3 days ISS (in-school suspension, basically copying the dictionary for 3 days) for saying "fart" in class. Of course, I spent so much time in ISS that year that I completed the dictionary and got halfway through the second volume of Encyclopedia Britannica.

I remember the last time I got swats in school (Yeah, I'm old...) - kid in the desk in front of me reached back and stabbed me in the side of the knee HARD with his pencil, breaking the lead off in my leg. I calmly stood and politely mumbled the word 'motherfarker!' at the top of my lungs and got sent out for a paddling in the hallway, followed by being sent to the office to have my parents called when I argued with the assistant principal about the incident. A few hours (and an ER visit) later, my parents were STILL unthrilled. Not that I had cursed, mind you, but that the little farker walked away without punishment while I had gotten a paddling with blood dripping down my leg all the while.

Chinchillazilla: I learned mine from my parents, too, but not at home. I learned them in the car.

That's where I taught my kids. Examples:shiathead: Slow driver in front of you
Crazy farker: Fast driver on your back bumper
Stupid asshole: Driver that just cut you off
Motherfarking jackass: Driver that runs a red light or stop sign and almost hits you

It's easy m'kay?

WTF? What the fark does WTF mean?

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/watching wrestlemania right now