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(Philly) Asinine Philly cops enter store and arrest owner for selling small plastic Ziplock bags. Unfortunately for them, the owner backed up his security cameras on a hard drive and caught them cutting the cables with a knife. Now $10k is missing from store   (philly.com) divider line 368
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Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 09:09:19 AM  
Another victory in the War On CamerasTM.

 
HenryFnord [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 09:22:21 AM  
The next day, while Duran was in jail, his brother-in-law Anthony Garcia entered the store

He's related to Terry Benedict? These guys are farked.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 09:50:02 AM  
Color me shocked.

"HELP! It's the POLICE!"

 
JoeBagadonutz [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 10:13:18 AM  
99% of Philly cops are giving the other 1% a bad reputation.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 10:15:19 AM  
I hope the cameras in their jail cells malfunction every time they fall down the stairs.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 10:19:29 AM  
99% of Philly cops are giving the other 1% a bad reputation.

I'm reminded of the story of Abraham and Sodom. Can you find one hundred righteous cops in Philly? Twenty? Ten?

 
Psychotropic 2009-04-05 10:29:18 AM  
Finally, cops have found the key to winning the war on drugs.
Why go after drug users, they are innocent victims of their addictions?
Why go after drug dealers, they are innocent victims of the ziploc bag market?

Start at the top by outlawing the baggie and hit the baggie dealers where it hurts by taking their money.
It's obvious that convenience stores are just fronts for the illicit baggie market.

Without plastic baggies, the dealers will stop selling and the users will stop using. The war will be won.

 
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros 2009-04-05 10:51:16 AM  
Two-and-a-half hours later, at about 7 p.m., the Cujdik brothers and four other officers, including Tolstoy, Thomas Kuhn, Anthony Parrotti and squad supervisor Sgt. Joseph Bologna raided the store.

That caught me off guard. It's a long fall from writing The Structure of Scientific Revolutions to being a corrupt cop.

 
Whamdangler 2009-04-05 10:57:45 AM  
Psychotropic: Start at the top by outlawing the baggie and hit the baggie dealers where it hurts by taking their money.
It's obvious that convenience stores are just fronts for the illicit baggie market.


But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them. These cops are disgusting.

 
baka-san [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:15:52 AM  
It's Philly...

The city that gives Detroit a run for it's money.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:16:18 AM  
Previously, on "Philly Cops are Here to Help You"...

www.whyy.org

 
Crosshair [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:17:01 AM  
Heh, I install security systems for a living. This is going to become increasingly common. Very easy to backup video recordings to a hidden NAS array or over a WAN/Wireless connection to an off site location.

This is going to become increasingly more common and cops are going to have to not steal so much stuff. Taking out the security system is extremely damming evidence against the cops. No legitimate reason for them to do that in a legitimate investigation. Nobody takes the cameras out, they might take the recording rapes/drives. If they did actually find wrongdoing such video would be a benefit to them.

These guys need to fry.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:20:51 AM  
Crosshair: Heh, I install security systems for a living. This is going to become increasingly common. Very easy to backup video recordings to a hidden NAS array or over a WAN/Wireless connection to an off site location.

Disguised camera will probably come into play, too. Making them look like phone jacks or electrical outlets.

/It's always money in Philadelphia.

 
BlackCat23 [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:23:31 AM  
So, you know how we have those "World's Dumbest..." shows on TV? When do we get the cop version? I mean, key-rist, at the end there....
In a search-warrant application, Officer Richard Cujdik - Jeffrey Cujdik's brother - wrote that he "observed" a confidential informant enter Duran's store to buy tiny ziplock bags at about 4:30 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2007.

then...

The Daily News watched the time-stamped Sept. 11 surveillance footage between 4 and 5 p.m.: Not a single customer asked for or bought a ziplock bag.

"At the time, I had no reason to question the validity of the warrant," said Reavis, Duran's attorney.

When told by the Daily News that no bags were sold during that time frame, Reavis expressed shock.

"That's manufacturing evidence," Reavis said. "If the basis for the search warrant is a lie, that's perjury. It's illegal. It's criminal on the officer's part."


that's some FINE police work, lou

 
Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:32:11 AM  
These scumbags are going to get some payback on this guy for sure.

If one guy has a bag of heroin and another guy has a camera, they'll go balls out after the guy with the camera.

 
Crosshair [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:38:30 AM  
DarthBrooks: Disguised camera will probably come into play, too. Making them look like phone jacks or electrical outlets.

Those have their downsides. The image quality generally sucks eggs compared to a similarly priced non-disguised camera since they have to make do with a smaller lens, smaller sensor, smaller iris, etc, they are harder to aim properly. It would probably be best to have the hidden cameras on a dedicated second system to ensure the when the primary system is taken out the hidden one will continue to record.

Backup over WAN has its problems, mainly that you are seriously limited in bandwidth. Meaning image quality, frame rate, or both are going to take a serious hit. (Recommendation: keep the image quality, frame rate doesn't mean jack if you can't make out the picture.)

NAS arrays are compact and easy to hide. You can get full frame rate and picture quality. A WiFi LAN and a directional antenna can allow you to back up to a computer somewhere close by. (Recommendation: Become good friends with the owner of the store next door/across the street and get a backup system setup in their back room.)

Doing the above is certainly more expensive than a simple dedicated DVR, one has to weight the costs vs the benefits.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-04-05 11:39:00 AM  
DarthBrooks: Previously, on "Philly Cops are Here to Help You"...

Just some fine cops asking some people to MOVE.

 
shanrick [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:39:36 AM  
ZAZ: 99% of Philly cops are giving the other 1% a bad reputation.

I'm reminded of the story of Abraham and Sodom. Can you find one hundred righteous cops in Philly? Twenty? Ten?


Lot?

 
Psychotropic 2009-04-05 11:42:05 AM  
Whamdangler: But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them.

So what. The store owner was in possession of illegal plastic bags. He should be thanking his gods the cops didn't kill him and burn his store.
There's no place for baggie dealers in a civilized society and these menaces must be removed by any means possible.

These cops are heroes for risking their lives to keep dangerous criminals like this off the streets. When you're fighting the WAR ON DRUGS™ sometimes the rules have to be broken to get results.
The money from sales of illegal plastic bags most likely goes towards funding terrorists who want to destroy America. The money these cops took will now end up in the g-strings of single mothers instead of the hands of terrorists.
American lives were saved by the heroic actions of these cops.

 
Broadcastdave [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:45:05 AM  
I hope these cops go to prison.

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:48:27 AM  
shanrick: ZAZ: 99% of Philly cops are giving the other 1% a bad reputation.

I'm reminded of the story of Abraham and Sodom. Can you find one hundred righteous cops in Philly? Twenty? Ten?

Lot?


No, just a few.

/oh, you mean the original glass parking Lot.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 11:48:59 AM  
shanrick

I was going to write Lot but I looked it up. Abraham did the negotiating with God.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-04-05 11:50:05 AM  
Psychotropic: Whamdangler: But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them.

So what. The store owner was in possession of illegal plastic bags. He should be thanking his gods the cops didn't kill him and burn his store.
There's no place for baggie dealers in a civilized society and these menaces must be removed by any means possible.

These cops are heroes for risking their lives to keep dangerous criminals like this off the streets. When you're fighting the WAR ON DRUGS™ sometimes the rules have to be broken to get results.
The money from sales of illegal plastic bags most likely goes towards funding terrorists who want to destroy America. The money these cops took will now end up in the g-strings of single mothers instead of the hands of terrorists.
American lives were saved by the heroic actions of these cops.


www.highhatstudios.com

 
DrRatchet [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 12:01:08 PM  
"At the time, I had no reason to question the validity of the warrant," said Reavis, Duran's attorney.

That's some fine lawyerin' there, Lou.

 
Soumac [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 12:22:43 PM  
Whamdangler: Psychotropic: Start at the top by outlawing the baggie and hit the baggie dealers where it hurts by taking their money.
It's obvious that convenience stores are just fronts for the illicit baggie market.

But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them. These cops are disgusting.


Pssst.... I think I found the kingpin.

 
adamgreeney 2009-04-05 12:23:21 PM  
Psychotropic: Whamdangler: But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them.

So what. The store owner was in possession of illegal plastic bags. He should be thanking his gods the cops didn't kill him and burn his store.
There's no place for baggie dealers in a civilized society and these menaces must be removed by any means possible.

These cops are heroes for risking their lives to keep dangerous criminals like this off the streets. When you're fighting the WAR ON DRUGS™ sometimes the rules have to be broken to get results.
The money from sales of illegal plastic bags most likely goes towards funding terrorists who want to destroy America. The money these cops took will now end up in the g-strings of single mothers instead of the hands of terrorists.
American lives were saved by the heroic actions of these cops.


Honest question to sarcastic answer, did they actually find baggies? Maybe i missed that part, but i didn't see anything about even finding any for sale.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 12:32:18 PM  
well. Here are some cops that need to lose their badges. Bye guys. Hope you enjoyed your time on the force, because its over.

 
Makh [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 12:42:43 PM  
SilentStrider: well. Here are some cops that need to lose their badges. Bye guys. Hope you enjoyed your time on the force, because its over.

Yes, agreed. There should be no reason they need to be disabling a security camera. After all, they should have nothing to fear if the aren't doing anything wrong, riiiiiight?

 
Ryan2065 2009-04-05 12:46:37 PM  
SilentStrider: well. Here are some cops that need to lose their badges. Bye guys. Hope you enjoyed your time on the force, because its over.

This happened in 2007 and there isn't any mention in the article about the cops losing their jobs. I find it really odd that this guy pleaded no contest to the charges when they had this much evidence... The cops should lose their job but there might be more to the story.

 
Psychotropic 2009-04-05 12:46:53 PM  
adamgreeney: Honest question to sarcastic answer, did they actually find baggies? Maybe i missed that part, but i didn't see anything about even finding any for sale.

Yes they did.
The cop behind the counter pulls out a box and says here they are, to which the store owner claims he didn't know selling color coded drug baggies was illegal.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 01:02:35 PM  
Ryan2065: This happened in 2007 and there isn't any mention in the article about the cops losing their jobs. I find it really odd that this guy pleaded no contest to the charges when they had this much evidence... The cops should lose their job but there might be more to the story.

meh, didn't realize it happened so long ago.

These cops really SHOULD lose their jobs.

 
Brainsick 2009-04-05 01:02:41 PM  
Crosshair: Nobody takes the cameras out, they might take the recording rapes/drives.

You said rape

/rape

 
gorgor 2009-04-05 01:03:12 PM  
Cheese Steak.
/whut

 
MBK [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 01:05:43 PM  
You know, with cops, the term "one bad apple spoils the bunch" doesn't apply.

One bad apple spoils the bunch(cops in the same city), sure, but it also rots the tree (the whole police organization) and poisons the soil (public opinion about cops).

As long as they protect each other, public opinion, respect and trust of cops will always be low.

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 01:06:35 PM  
Holy shiat.

I ... I don't know what to say. This is insane. I'm not even angry yet, because I'm still too shocked.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-04-05 01:06:48 PM  
Brainsick: Crosshair: Nobody takes the cameras out, they might take the recording rapes/drives.

You said rape

/rape


You said rape twice.

 
nmemkha 2009-04-05 01:07:17 PM  
"We here to protect and ser...", said Sgt. Dumass as he burst into laughter.

"Not really, we are just here to kick your ass, take your stuff, and send you to jail."

 
PirateFreedom 2009-04-05 01:07:53 PM  
The inevitable result of criminalizing private behaviour.

Corrupt cops and collateral damage.

When you persecute a 'victimless' crime you have to eliminate freedom for everyone.
As there are no victims to report problems the state is required to become more and more of a prison in order to fight people natural inclination to freedom.

I suspect these cops would be corrupt anyway but the anti-freedom measures, that the war on personal responsibility require, give them tools and opportunity.

 
IKillBugs 2009-04-05 01:08:01 PM  
Psychotropic: Without plastic baggies, the dealers will stop selling and the users will stop using. The war will be won.

You can buy them online from craft stores by the gross.
Link (new window)

 
MorePeasPlease 2009-04-05 01:08:17 PM  
tvmedia.ign.com

Doh!

 
REDARMYVODKA 2009-04-05 01:09:09 PM  
Psychotropic: Whamdangler: But, as the article mentions, no one is seen on the videotapes buying for or even asking for baggies anywhere near the time the cops said their informant bought them.

So what. The store owner was in possession of illegal plastic bags. He should be thanking his gods the cops didn't kill him and burn his store.
There's no place for baggie dealers in a civilized society and these menaces must be removed by any means possible.

These cops are heroes for risking their lives to keep dangerous criminals like this off the streets. When you're fighting the WAR ON DRUGS™ sometimes the rules have to be broken to get results.
The money from sales of illegal plastic bags most likely goes towards funding terrorists who want to destroy America. The money these cops took will now end up in the g-strings of single mothers instead of the hands of terrorists.
American lives were saved by the heroic actions of these cops.


0/10

obvious troll is obvious.

 
Phil Moskowitz 2009-04-05 01:10:00 PM  
Mixed up bunch of motherfarkers down there. Ziplock bags??

We need a Great Wall of Canada.

 
7Mary3and4 2009-04-05 01:11:29 PM  
Hey, someone's gonna end up with a lot of the City of Philly's money, thanks to these idiots.

He ought to sue the cops individually, as well.

 
Xetal 2009-04-05 01:12:24 PM  
This is why there is so little empathy when some thug shoots a cop dead at a routine traffic stop.

Cops in the thread: If you want the world to stop hating you, then you need to do something about your corrupt brethren. Until then, don't expect a lot of help when some druggie goes to knife you.

 
lajimi [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 01:13:53 PM  
"Now that the Daily News has created a mass hysteria concerning the Philadelphia Narcotics Unit, it comes as no surprise that every defendant ever arrested will now proclaim their innocence and bark about being mistreated. "Suffice it to say, there is a not a scintilla of truth to such convenient protestations."

So then why did the piglets steal the cameras?

/If the pigs lips are moving you know they're lying.
//Who do you call when the gang wears blue and has badges?

 
hourheroyes 2009-04-05 01:14:08 PM  
Ryan2065: but there might be more to the story.


Really? Like what?

 
Evilmogwai 2009-04-05 01:14:11 PM  
Psychotropic: Finally, cops have found the key to winning the war on drugs.
Why go after drug users, they are innocent victims of their addictions?
Why go after drug dealers, they are innocent victims of the ziploc bag market?

Start at the top by outlawing the baggie and hit the baggie dealers where it hurts by taking their money.
It's obvious that convenience stores are just fronts for the illicit baggie market.

Without plastic baggies, the dealers will stop selling and the users will stop using. The war will be won.


heh. When I was a juror in a case the police tried to argue that despite the guy having no list, no known record of dealing etc. the fact he had little baggies in his kitchen drawer meant he was a dealer.

/Bull-shiat

 
Poopspasm [TotalFark] 2009-04-05 01:14:13 PM  
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Two-and-a-half hours later, at about 7 p.m., the Cujdik brothers and four other officers, including Tolstoy, Thomas Kuhn, Anthony Parrotti and squad supervisor Sgt. Joseph Bologna raided the store.

That caught me off guard. It's a long fall from writing The Structure of Scientific Revolutions to being a corrupt cop.


Bravo. Figured I was the only one on this site that had read it--one of my favorite books.

 
H_is_for_Heretic 2009-04-05 01:14:33 PM  
Maybe it was gum

blogs.menupages.com

/scintilla

 
WALMART.saves 2009-04-05 01:14:36 PM  
There's obviously more to this story than the baggie-dealing store owner is letting on. Afterall, cops wouldn't lie, would they?

 
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