why am i suprised that joe the plumber is an idiot?

Did a major GOP mouthpiece seriously talk about Fair Tax on TV?

Joe must have access to some high quality hookers & blow for Maher to agree to have him on the show...

Maher was polite and civil. He allowed Joe to speak freely about his views and beliefs. Which was brilliant, as it served to further show how clueless the boy is.

The GOP has created several monsters, which have escaped their control and are now running loose across the countryside.

Good stuff.

How in the hell did he get this gig?

This is just ludicrous.

Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

Moot

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BTW, if you utter "family values," you are a real, patriotic American, and the content of everything else you say is by default Patriotic American

:)

Lundah: Joe must have access to some high quality hookers & blow for Maher to agree to have him on the show...

Or Maher wanted him to look like an idiot.

/JtP obliges

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

Moot

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BTW, if you utter "family values," you are a real, patriotic American, and the content of everything else you say is by default Patriotic American

:)

Watch the full interview.

:)

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

Moot

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BTW, if you utter "family values," you are a real, patriotic American, and the content of everything else you say is by default Patriotic American

:)

That's why I had 'Family Values' tattooed on my udder!

/Going to bed
//my balls hurt

39 percent makes it look like european serfs got off easy.

/they generally paid 1/3

Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

...

/mute point

Why did Maher even agree to have this idiot on the show?

You have to take into consideration that this man is a shill...

Lundah: Joe must have access to some high quality hookers & blow for Maher to agree to have him on the show...

Are you kidding? Maher loves having people who disagree with him on.

Especially stupid people who disagree with him.

RobertBruce: 39 percent makes it look like european serfs got off easy.

Yes, those poor poor people making several hundred thousand dollars whose income above $357,700* is taxed at 35%. They're so much worse off than those elitist European serfs!

*number is for a single filer in 2008

So when is that guy going back to fishing grogans out of my clogged toilet?

Lundah: Joe must have access to some high quality hookers & blow for Maher to agree to have him on the show...

I dunno, if I was Maher, I'd be nice to take a break from worthy opponents, and just rip apart some mental tomato can without breaking a sweat once in awhile.

Why is this guy still a media entity? His name isn't Joe, and he's not a plumber. He's the Larry the Cable Guy of political pundits.

JtP: "I don't like being famous".
Maher: "But I notice you're not quitting".


HAHAHAHAHAHa

what_now: JtP: "I don't like being famous".
Maher: "But I notice you're not quitting".


HAHAHAHAHAHa

That one was pure gold.

Sgt Otter: I dunno, if I was Maher, I'd be nice to take a break from worthy opponents, and just rip apart some mental tomato can without breaking a sweat once in awhile.

He does that every time Joe shows up somewhere anyway, he doesn't need to be in-studio to get torn apart.

Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

Heh, I laughed at that too. Does that make me an elitist?

"joe"...is a man-whore douchebag.

-the end.

so is bill maher.

-except that maher gets his weed for free.

Dan the Schman: Whatever.

Discussion here is just a mute point cause the thread is gonna get redlit.

The modmins, apparently, called your "mute point" bluff.

/has TF gotten that stupid since I left?

Remember all the talk about "Fitzmas"? This is so, so much better. Watching the Republican party devolve into the lowest common denominator is the most wonderful entertainment

Man, and to think I was getting sick of the enormously long election season, but the comedy gold being brought about because of it never seizes to amaze me!

So does anyone know how that tax rate increase will offset all of the spending that has been proposed and /or already approved? It doesn't and soon enough everyone will be paying more. Whether it's a hidden tax like a carbon tax, higher property taxes to keep the local coffers full, sin taxes, etc. Another likely tax increase coming down will be the removal of the SSN ceiling. The phase outs for mortgage interest deductions, child care, student loan interest,and charities as well as the AMT are still in place to ensure that the "rich" pay their fair share.

It is alot more than just a three plus point bump at the highest bracket and everyone will be participating especially in blue states like California, New York,Illinois, and Connecticut.

He's got a farking book?

Oh nice, he starts by talking about baseball.

Then he says he isn't an attention whore.

AMAZING!

I can't watch any longer.

lhinds: So does anyone know how that tax rate increase will offset all of the spending that has been proposed and /or already approved? It doesn't and soon enough everyone will be paying more. Whether it's a hidden tax like a carbon tax, higher property taxes to keep the local coffers full, sin taxes, etc. Another likely tax increase coming down will be the removal of the SSN ceiling. The phase outs for mortgage interest deductions, child care, student loan interest,and charities as well as the AMT are still in place to ensure that the "rich" pay their fair share.

A tax rate increase or letting the Bush tax cuts expire?

lhinds: So does anyone know how that tax rate increase will offset all of the spending that has been proposed and /or already approved? It doesn't and soon enough everyone will be paying more. Whether it's a hidden tax like a carbon tax, higher property taxes to keep the local coffers full, sin taxes, etc. Another likely tax increase coming down will be the removal of the SSN ceiling. The phase outs for mortgage interest deductions, child care, student loan interest,and charities as well as the AMT are still in place to ensure that the "rich" pay their fair share.

It is alot more than just a three plus point bump at the highest bracket and everyone will be participating especially in blue states like California, New York,Illinois, and Connecticut.

oh noes! something horrible might happen, so we have to keep doing what i want! even though it's already made horrible things happen! and if you don't do what i want i'm going to whine and cry and tell everyone that it's the end of the world! wahhh!

39% is not 39%.

If you are making enough money to put you in that "marginal" tax, you probably have huge tax deductions.

Again, back to "marginal" tax rates, if you don't understand them, shame.

Finally, aren't we just undoing the tax cut damage done by the Bush Administration, which blew the whole into the budget to start with.

Chariset: Remember all the talk about "Fitzmas"? This is so, so much better. Watching the Republican party devolve into the lowest common denominator is the most wonderful entertainment

If Maher were really interested in hearing from a conservative he would have brought out a legitimate voice such as George Will, Charles Krauthammer, or any other number of conservative pundits. Instead, he brings out that jackass who speaks for no-one that I know of and is basically just grist for the liberal mill. It's good TV but its not representative of my views anyway.

"Fair tax" is the ultimate in Orwellian-style language marketing, and I refuse to acknowledge their chosen meaning for a common descriptive phrase.

lhinds: If Maher were really interested in hearing from a conservative he would have brought out a legitimate voice such as George Will, Charles Krauthammer, or any other number of conservative pundits. Instead, he brings out that jackass who speaks for no-one that I know of and is basically just grist for the liberal mill. It's good TV but its not representative of my views anyway.

I take it you didn't see the show or the 3 guests on the panel.

Sam Donaldson, journalist and news anchor
David Frum, author
Reihan Salam, journalist

lhinds:

It is alot more than just a three plus point bump at the highest bracket and everyone will be participating especially in blue states like California, New York,Illinois, and Connecticut.

When I lived in New Jersey 10 years ago I wound up paying 58% of my income overall in taxes...gas tax, sales, income, property..etc....we also included the fees the government charged us to do things like register vehicles and renew my license as well as other "fees".....And I made less then 100k that year.

Its easy to focus on a 3% tax increase and if you're not part of the class that pays it to say its no big deal.

On average how much of your total incomes go to paying taxes/fees.

lhinds: If Maher were really interested in hearing from a conservative he would have brought out a legitimate voice such as George Will, Charles Krauthammer, or any other number of conservative pundits. Instead, he brings out that jackass who speaks for no-one that I know of and is basically just grist for the liberal mill. It's good TV but its not representative of my views anyway.


I'm sure you were equally incensed by the right-wing fascination with Cindy Sheehan, Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright.

And none of them were given a prominent role in presidential campaign.

lhinds: So does anyone know how that tax rate increase will offset all of the spending that has been proposed and /or already approved? It doesn't and soon enough everyone will be paying more. Whether it's a hidden tax like a carbon tax, higher property taxes to keep the local coffers full, sin taxes, etc. Another likely tax increase coming down will be the removal of the SSN ceiling. The phase outs for mortgage interest deductions, child care, student loan interest,and charities as well as the AMT are still in place to ensure that the "rich" pay their fair share.

It is alot more than just a three plus point bump at the highest bracket and everyone will be participating especially in blue states like California, New York,Illinois, and Connecticut.

There will be no more taxes under Chairman Obama's new plan. All workers will receive a small stipend each week. Said stipend will be spent on dry, hard bread and rough, single ply toilet paper after waiting 3-4 hours on line at the local co-op. All other commodities such as water and fuel will be rationed according to each worker's needs. Health care will be provided free of charge for all workers, but we will be returning to the simpler, more cost effective, leech-friendly medicine of the 1800s.

The remainder of what used to be your wages will go to building the new Chairman's Golden Monuments of Glory, which will replace the Lincoln Memorial and Washington's Monuments in the renamed capital city of New Kenya.

Harry_Seldon: 39% is not 39%.

If you are making enough money to put you in that "marginal" tax, you probably have huge tax deductions.

Again, back to "marginal" tax rates, if you don't understand them, shame.

Finally, aren't we just undoing the tax cut damage done by the Bush Administration, which blew the whole into the budget to start with.

Really, what tax deductions? Clearly no-one on this thread earns much or you would understand my post. Bush's tax cuts expiring is only the tip of the iceberg. I cannot make what I wrote above any more clear. The administration is only going after high WAGE EARNERS. He is not going after the truly wealthy who live off of trusts and other "old money" strategies. if he did so he would alienate a huge portion of the limosuine libs who paid $2000 a plate to hear him speak during the campaign. It also nicely feeds the class warfare angle nicely, which is also evident in this thread.



BTW, citing Bush's tax policies as ruinous is a bit disengenuous when Obama has already run up the largest tab in US history.

Tor_Eckman: There will be no more taxes under Chairman Obama's new plan. All workers will receive a small stipend each week. Said stipend will be spent on dry, hard bread and rough, single ply toilet paper after waiting 3-4 hours on line at the local co-op. All other commodities such as water and fuel will be rationed according to each worker's needs. Health care will be provided free of charge for all workers, but we will be returning to the simpler, more cost effective, leech-friendly medicine of the 1800s.

The remainder of what used to be your wages will go to building the new Chairman's Golden Monuments of Glory, which will replace the Lincoln Memorial and Washington's Monuments in the renamed capital city of New Kenya.

Off the meds again?

lhinds: If Maher were really interested in hearing from a conservative he would have brought out a legitimate voice such as George Will, Charles Krauthammer, or any other number of conservative pundits. Instead, he brings out that jackass who speaks for no-one that I know of and is basically just grist for the liberal mill.

Oh yeah, it's the liberals that are sending JtP on speaking tours, inviting him to fund-raisers; they're the ones that invited him on campaign appearances.

It's good TV but its not representative of my views anyway.

I think Joe the Plumber is probably smarter, more articulate, and a better representative than you, anyway. Anybody invited you anywhere lately?

Add Pinochle to the legions of things Joe the Plumber knows nothing about.

/Pea-Knuckle. Heh.

I'm not an American, but Palin sold me "I'm a real American" bumper sticker, which is very funny to me

lhinds: BTW, citing Bush's tax policies as ruinous is a bit disengenuous when Obama has already run up the largest tab in US history.

In 2 months?

ok enough of this weak thread stuff. Where's the threads on:

Obama's aunt given an extra year in the states

The guy that shot and killed those cops in Pittsburgh cause he thinks the Obama administration is going to take his guns away.

Larry Summers used to run a Hedge Fund and was paid big money to make speeches at some of the financial institutions that are being bailed out.

What's the hold up folks.

rnld: I take it you didn't see the show or the 3 guests on the panel.

If a man can't extrapolate from a single data point, then what, I ask you, CAN he extrapolate from?

It ain't over 'till it's over.

lhinds: Really, what tax deductions? Clearly no-one on this thread earns much or you would understand my post. Bush's tax cuts expiring is only the tip of the iceberg. I cannot make what I wrote above any more clear. The administration is only going after high WAGE EARNERS. He is not going after the truly wealthy who live off of trusts and other "old money" strategies. if he did so he would alienate a huge portion of the limosuine libs who paid $2000 a plate to hear him speak during the campaign. It also nicely feeds the class warfare angle nicely, which is also evident in this thread.

You should be able to back this up with some facts.