Odd. All of the confirmed carnivores I know are OK with tofu. It goes great with a steak ;-)

It's almost impossible to have really great asian cooking without tofu. Put away the wonderbread and mac&cheese, submitter, there is a whole culinary world to explore.

I'm an avid meat eater who occasionally eats tofu, usually in Chinese food.

I don't eat Tofurkey or tofu bacon or tofu hot dogs or any of the other ridiculous tofu meat substitutes that vegetarians eat to satisfy their craving for real meat.

This is one of the dumbest examples of failing to see a confounding variable I've ever seen.

All of the confirmed carnivores I know are OK with tofu. It goes great with a steak

I'm a carnivore and I find tofu does not go well with anything near my mouth. People keep saying you have to try it cooked in this or that because it takes on flavor. No, it doesn't. It's nasty any way you grease it.

Vegetarianism IS an eating disorder. You can't get Vitamin B12 from plants, and popping pills to get a single vitamin not present in your diet is a cop-out.

ZAZ: All of the confirmed carnivores I know are OK with tofu. It goes great with a steak

I'm a carnivore and I find tofu does not go well with anything near my mouth. People keep saying you have to try it cooked in this or that because it takes on flavor. No, it doesn't. It's nasty any way you grease it.

I dislike tofu, too. It's spongy, has a weird texture, and it can be shaped into funky things like tofurkey that are a crime against cuisine.

That being said, I eat a lot of it, primarily in Chinese and Thai food. That stems partially from the fact that it's slightly healthier as I stuff stuff typically soaked in oil in my mouth, but mostly because I don't know how good their meat is--plus the requisite "That wasn't chicken" joke. Oh, and in salad rolls, too, but you dip that in what might as well as watery peanut butter, so it hides the taste well. Mmmm...spring rolls.

ZAZ: All of the confirmed carnivores I know are OK with tofu. It goes great with a steak

I'm a carnivore and I find tofu does not go well with anything near my mouth. People keep saying you have to try it cooked in this or that because it takes on flavor. No, it doesn't. It's nasty any way you grease it.

It does take on flavor - and it just takes skill in cooking it right - and using the right 'texture' of tofu for the right meal. Smaller pieces usually = better. Most cooking is all about the sauces anyway, unless you're talking about Slab O' Steak. But really - most meals where meat is a *component* you're not getting that much meat taste - it's texture and body. Make a stew or a chili with TVP (which I think is worlds better than tofu), and you'll never know there's not meat in it. And it's cheaper. And keeps longer.

/98% Veg
//Loves meat, but after 35 years of it, enough is enough.

Meh. I like tofu and textured vegetable protein almost as much as I like actual meat. The only time I want the real thing instead of a soy based substitute is when I eat sashimi/sushi. Raw salmon and tuna will NEVER be replaced by imitation meat products.

Saborlas: Vegetarianism IS an eating disorder. You can't get Vitamin B12 from plants

Mushrooms. Brewers yeast.
STFU.

PacManDreaming: Raw salmon and tuna will NEVER be replaced by imitation meat products.

There is something about underwater foods that is hard to recreate, plant and animal alike, perhaps that has only to do with lack of food study. Ive eaten a totally fake strawberry that looked from the outside like the real thing, had the same texture and the same taste (although it was a little cold because the major ingredient, agar, used as the mass the colours and flavour were attached to needed to be sub-room temp to hold together.) I was amazed.

Maybe someday, with proper experimentation salmon can be recreated.

Psychotropic: I'm an avid meat eater who occasionally eats tofu, usually in Chinese food.

I don't eat Tofurkey or tofu bacon or tofu hot dogs or any of the other ridiculous tofu meat substitutes that vegetarians eat to satisfy their craving for real meat.

You think you understand but you misunderstand. Some of those products are just good eats. Some aren't. Most of them certainly are lower in sodium and fat. Why can't a vegetarian enjoy the world of varied textures and tastes without compromising their views on animal suffering?

Waterfall Jr.: "We taught a lion to eat tofu!"

Females with eating disorders more likely to claim vegetarianism when people ask why they don't want to eat anything offered them.

I think if I worked all day long caring for and saving the lives of animals, I might have trouble dining on them later too.

First off, Tofurkey is mostly wheat gluten, not tofu, so it tastes like wet bread more than anything.

Second, I'm a meat eater, and I still love tofu. When cooked with a good sauce, it soaks up the flavor. Tofu, on it's own, is practically tasteless. I have a feeling that most people who ate it had more of an issue with the texture rather than the taste. Use some extra firm in some stirfry. It's yummy.

Correlation does not equal causation. That said, i can see how people who are extremely picky eaters to the level of having an eating disorder would not want to eat meat with all of the hormones and chemicals that come along with it.

Bukharin: Saborlas: Vegetarianism IS an eating disorder. You can't get Vitamin B12 from plants

Mushrooms. Brewers yeast.
STFU.

Well aren't you a fungi. :)

Psychotropic: I'm an avid meat eater who occasionally eats tofu, usually in Chinese food.

I don't eat Tofurkey or tofu bacon or tofu hot dogs or any of the other ridiculous tofu meat substitutes that vegetarians eat to satisfy their craving for real meat.

Tofurkey brats are tasty. Fake bacon is terrible.

Saborlas: Vegetarianism IS an eating disorder. You can't get Vitamin B12 from plants, and popping pills to get a single vitamin not present in your diet is a cop-out.

Nutritional yeast has B-12, and don't pretend like meat eaters get all their vitamins.

TripSixes: You think you understand but you misunderstand. Some of those products are just good eats. Some aren't. Most of them certainly are lower in sodium and fat. Why can't a vegetarian enjoy the world of varied textures and tastes without compromising their views on animal suffering?

It's not just that, sometimes I like to feel somewhat normal and just have a corn dog or meatloaf or something. Those types of foods are comfort foods that we got used to before going veggie. Cooking is fun, but I don't like having to make some crazy Asian dish every day. Sometimes I just want that familiar flavor, but without the killing and ass cancer.

I ate hot wings for breakfast.

/yummy

Tigger: This is one of the dumbest examples of failing to see a confounding variable I've ever seen.

I agree. Some people get into vegetarianism for the right reasons. Others have a strong need to control their food, so they pick vegetarianism (or veganism) to hide their disorder. I don't think vegetarianism leads to eating disorders, but people who have a tendancy towards ed's migrate to vegetarianism.

Christian Bale: Females with eating disorders more likely to claim vegetarianism when people ask why they don't want to eat anything offered them.

I'm convinced my sister went veggie when she was in high school so she could just get away with eating candy all the time instead of family meals. She sure as hell didn't eat vegetables. She got an iron deficiency and gave up vegetarianism.

For anyone considering fake meat, these things are delicious,



/srsly
//just try one

cousin-merle:
It's not just that, sometimes I like to feel somewhat normal and just have a corn dog or meatloaf or something. Those types of foods are comfort foods that we got used to before going veggie. Cooking is fun, but I don't like having to make some crazy Asian dish every day. Sometimes I just want that familiar flavor, but without the killing and ass cancer.

.. have you ever tried the veggie corn dogs? They're delish!
not nutritional, but delish.

Two words... Mongolian Tofu

/That is all

Vegetarians Buffet customers more likely to develop eating disorders like binge eating and purging.

Bukharin: It's almost impossible to have really great asian cooking without tofu. Put away the wonderbread and mac&cheese, submitter, there is a whole culinary world to explore.

In response:

Get off your high horse. Some people do not like some food. You like tofu, great for you. It does not make you a superior. You thinking it does kinda makes you an ass though.

/not submitter

DUH. Vegetarians are more likely to think about what they are putting in their bodies. Thinking can easily become over-thinking. The average carnivore doesn't think twice about eating a hamburger.

Isn't yeast an animal?

gwendolyyyn: For anyone considering fake meat, these things are delicious,

Best fake chicken =



smileynyc: .. have you ever tried the veggie corn dogs? They're delish!
not nutritional, but delish.

Yeah, I'm veggie. Unfortuantely, I usually eat the entire box in one day, so I don't buy them often. (Plus, they're made by Morningstar, and I don't really like their stuff.)

TripSixes: You think you understand but you misunderstand. Some of those products are just good eats. Some aren't. Most of them certainly are lower in sodium and fat. Why can't a vegetarian enjoy the world of varied textures and tastes without compromising their views on animal suffering?

Let's see if we can't make things more interesting. I think people mock their views on animal suffering because it's a bit like trying to drain the ocean with a bucket.

The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. - Dawkins

Bukharin:
Mushrooms. Brewers yeast.
STFU.

Mushrooms only contain B12 when the soil they're grown in has B12 (and only if manure is a large component of the soil) - and if you don't wash off the soil first. If you wash them at all thoroughly, mushrooms don't contain B12. If you don't wash them thoroughly, you're eating manure for your B12 supplement.

Brewer's yeast only has B12 when you add it to the growth medium - or when you grow it in a medium with a lot of B12 (containing animal products, in other words).

Either way, they're getting B12 from meat/bacterial supplements - they don't contain B12 naturally.

antitrust fund baby: Isn't yeast an animal?

Fungus

gwendolyyyn: For anyone considering fake meat, these things are delicious,



/srsly
//just try one

If they're so damn good, why is the 'veggie patties' part so hard to find? Why not blare it out in 4" letters?

otterrr: Second, I'm a meat eater, and I still love tofu. When cooked with a good sauce, it soaks up the flavor. Tofu, on it's own, is practically tasteless.

This is what I have been told, but why would a meat eater bother? Not slamming it but I would rather throw some meat and pasta in that sauce if it is good.

Christian Bale: Females with eating disorders more likely to claim vegetarianism when people ask why they don't want to eat anything offered them.

this

and there's got to be a level of attention whoredom involved, too

jst3p: In response:

Get off your high horse. Some people do not like some food. You like tofu, great for you. It does not make you a superior. You thinking it does kinda makes you an ass though.

/not submitter

You're a stubborn child or completely ignorant of Asian cuisine if you don't like tofu.

And yes, I am superior because I eat it. My food is less boring than yours. You don't have to get defensive about it. Don't feel bad though, a lot of meat eaters get insecure when their diets are questioned.

cousin-merle: gwendolyyyn: For anyone considering fake meat, these things are delicious,

Best fake chicken =




hmm.
I don't think I've seen a store in my area that sells quorn, but I have heard good things about it...will have to take a look.

shotglasss: gwendolyyyn: For anyone considering fake meat, these things are delicious,



/srsly
//just try one

If they're so damn good, why is the 'veggie patties' part so hard to find? Why not blare it out in 4" letters?

I don't know...I didn't design the box it comes in.

I've dated a couple of vegetarians. Not intentionally, I just like the small frame that many with that lifestyle embrace. The first one was like 6 years ago and I also found out was a coke head. I'll blame her craziness on the coke.

The second one was more recent and was not on any illegal narcotics. She was batshiat crazy about her weight though. She weighed about 100 pounds and was pretty well toned. If she indulged in too many french fries or was unable to hit the gym 6 days a week, she would launch into a depression.

cousin-merle: Christian Bale: Females with eating disorders more likely to claim vegetarianism when people ask why they don't want to eat anything offered them.

I'm convinced my sister went veggie when she was in high school so she could just get away with eating candy all the time instead of family meals. She sure as hell didn't eat vegetables. She got an iron deficiency and gave up vegetarianism.

A woman with an iron deficiency will never find a man. I have to have my shirts pressed daily and wont settle for less. I don't know how eating meat helped her learn to iron, but if it worked that is wonderful for her.

thereadlines: Let's see if we can't make things more interesting. I think people mock their views on animal suffering because it's a bit like trying to drain the ocean with a bucket.

I think people mock people with strong views on animal rights because they don't want to have to think about it. It is easier to rationalize the suffering and death if you make cute jokes and ignore the issue. Most people are cowards when it comes to defending their eating habits. I think it is because they know they are wrong, but don't want to admit it.

Bukharin
It's almost impossible to have really great asian cooking without tofu.

Bullshiat. I never saw that stuff when I was in Thailand, rarely in Hong Kong and Indian people never go near the stuff.

It's easy to get great asian cooking w/o tofu, it's even easy to get great Asian cooking w/o seafood.

I love, in any given thread about vegetarianism, how many people feel they have say they eat meat. Please do state that you're rugged, heterosexual and love your country too...lest we think any less of you.

Regardless of your ethics, one's diet must be balanced. Said balance can come from either side of the fence.

And tofu's texture and flavour can be good or bad depending on how it's prepared. It's very versatile so if it's not enjoyable, you're doing it wrong.

Isn't vegetarianism inherently an eating disorder?

cousin-merle: jst3p: In response:

Get off your high horse. Some people do not like some food. You like tofu, great for you. It does not make you a superior. You thinking it does kinda makes you an ass though.

/not submitter

You're a stubborn child or completely ignorant of Asian cuisine if you don't like tofu.

There is a list of things, some of them foods, that I don't like. Why do you care so much that you have to make personal attacks?

And yes, I am superior because I eat it.


Hehe, cute. You are an ass and delusional.

Vegetarianism IS an eating disorder.

/My $0.02.

You all are doing it wrong. We Asians love tofu deep-fried. Everything tastes better deep-fried.

gwendolyyyn: hmm.
I don't think I've seen a store in my area that sells quorn, but I have heard good things about it...will have to take a look.

It's from England. You can search for vendors on their website. It is made from fungus, so it doesn't have soy in it.