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(Lohud.com) Asinine It's enough to make a taxpayer flash his piece out on the lanes: NYC pays $12M for an abandoned bowling alley   (lohud.com) divider line 47
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HenryFnord [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 09:23:46 AM  
The Chinaman is not the issue.

 
JusticeandIndependence [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 09:43:15 AM  
6.8 acres? That's quite a bowling alley

 
Bored Horde 2009-04-03 10:08:29 AM  
Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?

 
Bloody William 2009-04-03 11:19:58 AM  
JusticeandIndependence: 6.8 acres? That's quite a bowling alley

Obviously you're not a golfer.

 
JusticeandIndependence [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 11:33:25 AM  
Bloody William: Obviously you're not a golfer.

I just felt a whoosh of air right over my head. What did I miss?

 
Bloody William 2009-04-03 11:38:43 AM  
JusticeandIndependence: Bloody William: Obviously you're not a golfer.

I just felt a whoosh of air right over my head. What did I miss?


Just continuing the line of inevitable Big Lebowski jokes. It seemed to fit in the context of TFA.

 
JusticeandIndependence [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 11:44:46 AM  
Bloody William: Just continuing the line of inevitable Big Lebowski jokes. It seemed to fit in the context of TFA.

Ahh, seen the movie many times. Missed it.

Carry on.

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 12:25:16 PM  
Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?


I'm certainly not. I find it hard to get outraged when an agency does what it is supposed to be doing.

 
JesterJames 2009-04-03 12:31:03 PM  
Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?


Wasn't able to load TFA, but was hoping (and thankful) there was a good reason like this.

But I guess that's just, like, my opinion... man.

 
Jeffrey.Rodriguez 2009-04-03 12:32:59 PM  

 
Manfred J. Hattan 2009-04-03 12:42:57 PM  
Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?


No, but $1.8 mm/acre seems a little spendy, even for a swanky place like Armonk. I think they may have been taken advantage of here. A supermarket? Kroger can't get financing for a new supermarket in this credit environment. The guy was totally trying to scare DEP into thinking every SUV in town was going to drip oil and antifreeze onto the parking lot and into the water supply. He was bluffing and DEP folded.

 
Hagbard Celine Dion 2009-04-03 12:49:33 PM  
I am the walrus?

 
h8_u_2 2009-04-03 12:52:17 PM  
Fark Clean Water. My Wharrgarble, luddite teleprompter hating, rush loving, gay fear and chicken little syndromes keep me healthy and clean!!!!

teleprompters!

Socialism!!!!!1

My ball-less sack!!!!!

You can't question Obama!!!!

 
BunkoSquad 2009-04-03 12:52:18 PM  
Shut the fark up, Hagbard Celine Dion; you're out of your element.

 
SiON42X [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 12:55:19 PM  
Jeffrey.Rodriguez: Not safe for fark

Is it a beaver picture?

 
FarKnight 2009-04-03 12:55:37 PM  
You got a hot date Wednesday, baby.

 
Rann Xerox 2009-04-03 01:07:24 PM  
drrockshow.com

/No read article.

 
Puppeteer_23 2009-04-03 01:09:26 PM  
i42.photobucket.com

...approves.

 
Puppeteer_23 2009-04-03 01:10:18 PM  
...about the penis flashing, that is.

 
saintstryfe 2009-04-03 01:13:25 PM  
Manfred J. Hattan: I think they may have been taken advantage of here. A supermarket? Kroger can't get financing for a new supermarket in this credit environment.

This is something that kind of surprised me when I moved to NYC: The kind of grocery stores most of the country know just don't exist here. And if they do (like, say, the Pathmark in Atlantic Terminal) they're often crushed with people. In areas where they aren't, local bodegas and small markets fill the gap, but they often are unclean and often cater to local ethnic needs, while charging exorbitant prices. They also often don't feature full markets. Imagine what your local 7-11 or Cumberland Farms has, plus a small green grocer for produce near by. That's how a lot of NY'ers, especially in the outer boroughs shop.

This is a crush to people of lesser means and does indeed hinder growth. So yeah, helping regular grocery stores move in is indeed a good move for New York to invest in. A good grocery can revitalize a previously down area.

 
jwbathe [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 01:17:42 PM  
Puppeteer_23: ...about the penis flashing, that is.

i335.photobucket.com

Jesus...

/Seriously...regarding the article...what the fark...man?

 
Manfred J. Hattan 2009-04-03 01:18:07 PM  
saintstryfe: This is a crush to people of lesser means and does indeed hinder growth. So yeah, helping regular grocery stores move in is indeed a good move for New York to invest in. A good grocery can revitalize a previously down area.

Are you in the right thread? In this thread, the DEP paid $12 MM bucks to prevent a planned (or in my scenario, threatened) grocery story. Way the hell upstate in Armonk, which is so far north they've got their own hockey team. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the availability of food in Queens.

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 01:18:50 PM  
saintstryfe: Manfred J. Hattan: I think they may have been taken advantage of here. A supermarket? Kroger can't get financing for a new supermarket in this credit environment.

This is something that kind of surprised me when I moved to NYC: The kind of grocery stores most of the country know just don't exist here. And if they do (like, say, the Pathmark in Atlantic Terminal) they're often crushed with people. In areas where they aren't, local bodegas and small markets fill the gap, but they often are unclean and often cater to local ethnic needs, while charging exorbitant prices. They also often don't feature full markets. Imagine what your local 7-11 or Cumberland Farms has, plus a small green grocer for produce near by. That's how a lot of NY'ers, especially in the outer boroughs shop.

This is a crush to people of lesser means and does indeed hinder growth. So yeah, helping regular grocery stores move in is indeed a good move for New York to invest in. A good grocery can revitalize a previously down area.


I don't think people of lesser means live in Armonk.

 
Puppeteer_23 2009-04-03 01:22:24 PM  
jwbathe: Puppeteer_23: ...about the penis flashing, that is.



Jesus...

/Seriously...regarding the article...what the fark...man?


"It's enough to make a taxpayer flash his piece out on the lanes..."

 
antidisestablishmentarianism 2009-04-03 01:44:21 PM  
Didn't NYC buy a 500k ferry that wasn't seaworthy not too long ago?

 
medgar 2009-04-03 01:48:59 PM  
Puppeteer_23: "It's enough to make a taxpayer flash his piece out on the lanes..."

Piece = gun, typically a handgun or perhaps a machine-pistol sized weapon (e.g. Uzi, MAC-10)

 
jwbathe [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 02:04:26 PM  
Puppeteer_23: "It's enough to make a taxpayer flash his piece out on the lanes..."

I got your joke...was continuing it...then making comment about the article being effed up. The flashing the penis thing still makes the dude say "Jesus"

 
saintstryfe 2009-04-03 02:05:29 PM  
Manfred J. Hattan: saintstryfe: This is a crush to people of lesser means and does indeed hinder growth. So yeah, helping regular grocery stores move in is indeed a good move for New York to invest in. A good grocery can revitalize a previously down area.

Are you in the right thread? In this thread, the DEP paid $12 MM bucks to prevent a planned (or in my scenario, threatened) grocery story. Way the hell upstate in Armonk, which is so far north they've got their own hockey team. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the availability of food in Queens.


I didn't RTFA. I'll take my ball and go home now.

 
Puppeteer_23 2009-04-03 02:09:36 PM  
medgar: Piece = gun, typically a handgun or perhaps a machine-pistol sized weapon (e.g. Uzi, MAC-10)

What does that say about me, then? ;)

 
Puppeteer_23 2009-04-03 02:10:14 PM  
jwbathe: Puppeteer_23: "It's enough to make a taxpayer flash his piece out on the lanes..."

I got your joke...was continuing it...then making comment about the article being effed up. The flashing the penis thing still makes the dude say "Jesus"


Ah. *headslap*

 
jwbathe [TotalFark] 2009-04-03 02:20:50 PM  
Puppeteer_23: Ah. *headslap*

Like a marmot in a bathtub eh?

/No harm, no foul

 
Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher 2009-04-03 02:32:34 PM  
Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?


New York City residents are probably mostly fine with it. It's the "small-government" anti-environmental conservatives from outside the city that love to point out "GOVERNMENT WASTE! OH NOES!" because they don't understand what living in a city means for the environment. Maybe the NYC government paid too much, but there's no doubt it was a necessary purchase.

 
TMBGfreak 2009-04-03 02:46:13 PM  
Smokey's got mental problems.

You mean, aside from pacifism?

 
Hagbard Celine Dion 2009-04-03 03:03:18 PM  
TMBGfreak: Smokey's got mental problems.

You mean, aside from pacifism?


He's fragile, man. He's very fragile.

 
Harvey Manfrenjensenjen 2009-04-03 03:07:24 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

Really?

I'm certainly not. I find it hard to get outraged when an agency does what it is supposed to be doing.


Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: New York City residents are probably mostly fine with it. It's the "small-government" anti-environmental conservatives from outside the city that love to point out "GOVERNMENT WASTE! OH NOES!" because they don't understand what living in a city means for the environment. Maybe the NYC government paid too much, but there's no doubt it was a necessary purchase.

Buying up land to protect watersheds, etc. is fine. However, these types of transactions are notorious for being shady deals; the developer or landowner usually winds up getting quite a bit more than market value. The fact that DEP refused to disclose the price doesn't look good either; so much for transparency in government.

When I lived in Arizona, our unincorporated area was annexed by the city next to us. Part of the annexation included buying the private water company we were using. Even the most generous assessment of the company was less than $2 million, but the city paid over $3 million. You know damn well there were shenanigans.

Even if you're doing the right thing in theory, you should still be judicious with your funds. If they could have bought the lot for $9 million, that's $3 million they could have used toward buying other lots.

It is possible to raise questions without being outraged. Questioning the manner in which a department handles it affairs is not the same thing as opposing their raison d'etre. Questioning this doesn't make one an "anti-environmental conservative" any more than questioning the need for $2B stealth bombers makes one a terrorist-loving pacifist who wants Muslim communists to take over 'mer'ca.

 
Now That's What I Call a Taco! 2009-04-03 03:07:37 PM  
Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: New York City residents are probably mostly fine with it. It's the "small-government" anti-environmental conservatives from outside the city that love to point out "GOVERNMENT WASTE! OH NOES!" because they don't understand what living in a city means for the environment. Maybe the NYC government paid too much, but there's no doubt it was a necessary purchase.

Yup.

 
poot_rootbeer 2009-04-03 03:13:25 PM  
Bored Horde: Are New Yorkers really upset over the city aggresively protecting their clean water supply?

I'm wondering why the city elected to do it by buying the land, rather than convince the state to classify the land as protected

Oh, that's right, it's because Albany is full of dicks who feel the best way to represent the low-density upper portions of the state is to oppose every idea that would benefit the high-density lower portions of the state, regardless of merit.

 
poot_rootbeer 2009-04-03 03:15:40 PM  
Manfred J. Hattan: Way the hell upstate in Armonk, which is so far north they've got their own hockey team.

Wat

Armonk is what, 20 minutes from the Bronx border? You're describing it like it was Lake Placid or something.

 
Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher 2009-04-03 03:22:06 PM  
poot_rootbeer: Manfred J. Hattan: Way the hell upstate in Armonk, which is so far north they've got their own hockey team.

Wat

Armonk is what, 20 minutes from the Bronx border? You're describing it like it was Lake Placid or something.


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baddecaf 2009-04-03 03:32:34 PM  
Hey, man, it pulled the block together!

 
Kazuya 2009-04-03 03:46:06 PM  
h8_u_2: Fark Clean Water. My Wharrgarble, luddite teleprompter hating, rush loving, gay fear and chicken little syndromes keep me healthy and clean!!!!

teleprompters!

Socialism!!!!!1

My ball-less sack!!!!!

You can't question Obama!!!!



THIS! ONLY IN BOLD!AND I'VE ADDED A BAD CARTOON!
www.jewishworldreview.com

 
Nightmaretony 2009-04-03 03:55:11 PM  
Gave up on bowling too long ago. Kept getting kicked out because of my bowling style.
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Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher 2009-04-03 03:55:17 PM  
Kazuya: THIS! ONLY IN BOLD!AND I'VE ADDED A BAD CARTOON!

It's funnier when you know that Bruce Tinsley has a BA in Political Science.

 
Miggity 2009-04-03 06:05:00 PM  
yeah but he's a pervert dude...

 
CaptMacMillian 2009-04-03 06:39:46 PM  
www.thedieline.com

Hell, they're selling the stuff in bottles!

/well.. one guy is

 
beoswulf 2009-04-03 06:59:40 PM  
saintstryfe: Imagine what your local 7-11 or Cumberland Farms has, plus a small green grocer for produce near by. That's how a lot of NY'ers, especially in the outer boroughs shop.

What? First I was going to disagree and say there's plenty of Trade Fairs, Stop and Shops, Food Towns, C-Towns, Associated, Food Basics, Key Foods, The Met, Western Beef, Waldbaums, Pathmarks, all the other A&P brands, the various asian supermarkets even the membership stores like Costco everywhere I've lived in the outer boroughs.

But then thinking about it some nore I have to agree that in certain parts of the outer boroughs the supermarkets just can't survive due to the same high minority theft rate and low profit margins that keeps supermarkets out of urban areas across the country.

 
neehurtz [TotalFark] 2009-04-04 08:11:36 PM  
Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism,
at least it's an ethos.

 
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