"Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

Christ, even the Soviet Union had money.

Some buildings in the City were boarded up in anticipation of trouble, with staff warned to work from home or dress down. As protesters began to gather, after 11am, some City workers were seen waving £10 notes at them from office windows.

That made me laugh.

netweavr: As protesters began to gather, after 11am, some City workers were seen waving £10 notes at them from office windows.


What the Dickens?

Someone should Darwinate those fools.

PenguinTheRed: "Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

I think we'll go back to a barter system. We'll all carry around portable chicken coops instead of wallets. Impractical, noisy, and pretty smelly, but think of the freedom!

I thought that the last album was in fact disappointing. Now, to be fair, "The Rake's Song" might be the best and cheeriest song about infanticide I've ever heard, but much like The Tain it has left me slightly cold.

I really miss the early Decemberists. Although Castaway and Cutouts was really strong, I think they really hit their stride with Her Majesty The Decemberists. In fact, Castaway and Cutouts might have been a step back from their 5 Songs EP in terms of direction. Sure, it "Here I Dreamt I was an Architect" and other such songs, and it was a notch up lyrically, but it missed something that the earlier EP had.

To be fair, the earlier EP was also slightly more generic music-wise, and sounded closer to early Lucksmiths than on a league of its own like later albums. I thought that Picaresque had some of their strongest material so far ("The Engine Driver", "On the Bus Mall", the beautiful and vivid "Bagman's Gambit" to name but three) but ultimately wasn't as cohesive as Her Majesty The Decemberists.

The Crane Wife had, once again, really strong material, but the more they try to innovate musically and go toward a more dirty, progressive folk kind of sound, the more complex they try to be, the more the songs lose what attracted me to them in the first place, the very delicate mix of beautifully crafted lyrics with the simple yet perfect melodies married with them.

They are sounding too detached and cold, nowadays.

/also, "Abolish money"? Retards.

Nabb1: PenguinTheRed: "Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

I think we'll go back to a barter system. We'll all carry around portable chicken coops instead of wallets. Impractical, noisy, and pretty smelly, but think of the freedom!

I knew some hippie who actually advocated just that. No more cars, no more companies, just people bartering and trading together. At some point she even said something along the lines "And if you want to travel by boat, well you could bring along an instrument and ask the captain to offer you passage against entertainment" and other such non-sense.

Oh, I laughed. I laughed a lot.

That headline deserved a lot more +1, good job subby


PenguinTheRed: "Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

Christ, even the Soviet Union had money.

Yeah, I remember when I was young, stupid and naive and stuff like that seemed to make sense. They forgot to bring their black and red anarchy flags...

Nabb1: PenguinTheRed: "Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

I think we'll go back to a barter system. We'll all carry around portable chicken coops instead of wallets. Impractical, noisy, and pretty smelly, but think of the freedom!

i prefer to carry around sacks of grain.

That protest looked like a free for all. There were people protesting to end capitalism, for world peace, for an end to specific conflicts, for money for developing countries, for animal rights, and god knows what else.

If they had a clear message besides wanting to fark shiat up maybe people would take them seriously.

/Some of them did get their asses beat by riot police bobbies.

Abolish Money?

lololololololololololol

also, headline sucks.

Almost every country has more balls than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters.

Mija: Almost every country has more balls than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters.

I agree with that somewhat, at least they try, but they have schizophrenic message control.

Mija: Almost every country has more balls than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters.

Oh yeah because there's nothing more respectable than a bunch of wankers smashing shops yelling "abolish money".

It's DEFINITELY more respectable than acting like civilized human being and using your vote as your voice within the context of an electoral framework in order to elect someone completely different than the last guy who messed up, in fact.

Mija: Almost every country has more balls bored stoner retards than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters. ftfy

/per capita
//of course

Can I get a summary on the Decemberists/Obama/politics joke? I've seen it a bunch of times in headlines, but never got into the threads to suss out what was going on.

burndtdan: Nabb1: PenguinTheRed: "Abolish Money"? Have these nitwits fielded a feasible alternative plan, or do they just specialize in being professionally butthurt?

I think we'll go back to a barter system. We'll all carry around portable chicken coops instead of wallets. Impractical, noisy, and pretty smelly, but think of the freedom!

i prefer to carry around sacks of grain.

That works great until Nabb1's chickens show up and eat your life savings and leave you for dead.

i dunno, whats the point of money if we program robots to do everything for us?

Tatsuma: It's DEFINITELY more respectable than acting like civilized human being and using your vote as your voice within the context of an electoral framework in order to elect someone completely different than the last guy who messed up, in fact.

voting is by far the weakest way to achieve change in government. The Civil Rights Act was not voted into being, the 13th, 14th and 19th amendments were not voted into existence. They took action from the people.

I'm sure the Decemberists were at one point acceptable listening for these wankers, but now have "sold out" to "the man".

Isn't there pretty much a guarunteed riot at any G* meeting?

Uzzah: Can I get a summary on the Decemberists/Obama/politics joke? I've seen it a bunch of times in headlines, but never got into the threads to suss out what was going on.

I'm fairly sure this is actually a reference to the Decembrist revolt of Russia, which is seen by some as a failed communist revolt.

brainiac-dumdum: voting is by far the weakest way to achieve change in government. The Civil Rights Act was not voted into being, the 13th, 14th and 19th amendments were not voted into existence. They took action from the people.

There's a difference between voting, acting and smoking weed then throwing bricks in windows yelling KILL BANKERS

I watched a little bit of the protests. From the look of it the police surrounded the crowd, beat them, then let them out one by one.

lulz

sacrileg: i dunno, whats the point of money if we program robots to do everything for us?

Who's robot is better?


/This just made me chuckle.

Tatsuma: brainiac-dumdum: voting is by far the weakest way to achieve change in government. The Civil Rights Act was not voted into being, the 13th, 14th and 19th amendments were not voted into existence. They took action from the people.

There's a difference between voting, acting and smoking weed then throwing bricks in windows yelling KILL BANKERS

the "abolish money" thing is super-ridiculous.

brainiac-dumdum: Mija: Almost every country has more balls than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters.

I agree with that somewhat, at least they try, but they have schizophrenic message control.

It's not summer yet. Have patience, Lads.

Sniff...he sprayed me with pepperspray, but what really hurt was I tripped over someone's bag of weed and pulled my cooter bone.

Tatsuma: It's DEFINITELY more respectable than acting like civilized human being and using your vote as your voice within the context of an electoral framework in order to elect someone completely different than the last guy who messed up, in fact.

You're completely missing the point.

This is what populations do before the storm the Bastille and put an edge on the guillotine.

The grumbling leads to protest, which increase in intensity, then evolve to violence, and can blossom into revolution, unless the crowd feels as though its issues have been met.

Some leaders are smart enough to keep a thermometer handy, while others become footnotes in history.

/and yes I think a lot of these people were jackasses - but jackasses have quite a kick.

GaryPDX: brainiac-dumdum: Mija: Almost every country has more balls than America. Our leaders sell us down the river and all we do is NOTHING. I greatly respect the rioters.

I agree with that somewhat, at least they try, but they have schizophrenic message control.

It's not summer yet. Have patience, Lads.

XX chromosomes, so it's Lass for me.

netcentric: but what really hurt was I tripped over someone's bag of weed and pulled my cooter bone.

Cooter Bone. Great band name.

I turned on the news earlier today to see the grand smashing of the window scene. That was about all that I saw on the riot. From that one experience I think there were 2 protesters and 10k reporters surrounding them. My god it was comical. 2 guys waving around some parking structure and an army of cameramen just clicking away, you could not see anyone else.

I love a good protest but I detest any destruction of property and can you guy please segregate yourselves by your cause. I want to be able to point and laugh at which group was the asshats.

Actual examples of the straw men caricatures right wing pundits deride.

Abolish Money, Ha Ha Ha!

My hippie nephew was describing some utopian fantasy of co-operation based on respect that he came up with from his experiences at a Texas music festival he attends yearly.

I started to ask him about how we would keep track of that. Soon he was inventing something exactly like money in response to my questioning and, despite being quite drunk, eventually caught on to his great amusement.

I greatly respect the rioters.

My parents and uncles told me stories about the 1968 riots when MLK jr was killed. It wasn't pretty.

I was in LA when the Rodney King riots happened. It wasn't pretty then either.

I imagine you've never been in a building where the cops tell you to leave because they can't hold back the mob that is outside about to burn it down and the building next door is on fire.

Of course you do mija . you're a complete idiot.

vernonFL: I imagine you've never been in a building where the cops tell you to leave because they can't hold back the mob that is outside about to burn it down and the building next door is on fire.

Sometimes, you get ignored and dumped on for so long, you have no choice but to riot.

Saiga410: I turned on the news earlier today to see the grand smashing of the window scene. That was about all that I saw on the riot. From that one experience I think there were 2 protesters and 10k reporters surrounding them. My god it was comical. 2 guys waving around some parking structure and an army of cameramen just clicking away, you could not see anyone else.

You forgot all the Anarchy symbols spray painted all over the place. Looked like they were shooting a commercial for "Hot Topic".

And what was that music they were listening to? Sounded like ass. wtf is wrong with these kids.

vernonFL: I greatly respect the rioters.

My parents and uncles told me stories about the 1968 riots when MLK jr was killed. It wasn't pretty.

I was in LA when the Rodney King riots happened. It wasn't pretty then either.

I imagine you've never been in a building where the cops tell you to leave because they can't hold back the mob that is outside about to burn it down and the building next door is on fire.

I watch one of the riots in Harvard Square (back in the late 60s) from a discreet distance and saw people with more blood on their faces than should be allowed. I also realized that there was a split second where what was happening could have turned into uncontrolled carnage if one lunatic, from either side, had fired a shot.

When mobs reach a fevered pitch, the worst thing you can do is corner them.
This is what the police did at the G20, according to the video in the link.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: vernonFL: I imagine you've never been in a building where the cops tell you to leave because they can't hold back the mob that is outside about to burn it down and the building next door is on fire.

Sometimes, you get ignored and dumped on for so long, you have no choice but to riot.

but it's so fun to push the weak around!

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Sometimes, you get ignored and dumped on for so long, you have no choice but to riot.

I see your point. Still, that wasn't covered by my parents' insurance policy.

They should have brought up the 'no choice but to riot' clause.

To be fair, the 'Abolish Money' is only slightly more ridiculous than the Soviet Union Russia and Walmart China's call for an international currency to replace the dollar.

Tatsuma: Uzzah: Can I get a summary on the Decemberists/Obama/politics joke? I've seen it a bunch of times in headlines, but never got into the threads to suss out what was going on.

I'm fairly sure this is actually a reference to the Decembrist revolt of Russia, which is seen by some as a failed communist revolt.

The Decembrist Revolt of Russia... which took place in 1825... 23 years before the Communist Manifesto was written. Clearly you're a history buff.

vernonFL: I greatly respect the rioters.

My parents and uncles told me stories about the 1968 riots when MLK jr was killed. It wasn't pretty.

I was in LA when the Rodney King riots happened. It wasn't pretty then either.

I imagine you've never been in a building where the cops tell you to leave because they can't hold back the mob that is outside about to burn it down and the building next door is on fire.

This is main why I enjoy my 2nd Amendment. Herd/mob hysteria/panic is a monster of it's own.

GaryPDX: This is main why I enjoy my 2nd Amendment. Herd/mob hysteria/panic is a monster of it's own.

Don't worry... we'll Zerg you down eventually.

I said "seen by some".

Pechorin: Tatsuma: Uzzah: Can I get a summary on the Decemberists/Obama/politics joke? I've seen it a bunch of times in headlines, but never got into the threads to suss out what was going on.

I'm fairly sure this is actually a reference to the Decembrist revolt of Russia, which is seen by some as a failed communist revolt.

The Decembrist Revolt of Russia... which took place in 1825... 23 years before the Communist Manifesto was written. Clearly you're a history buff.

It was a revolt against some guys (Nicholas 1?) assumption of leadership. I think.

brainiac-dumdum: Tatsuma: It's DEFINITELY more respectable than acting like civilized human being and using your vote as your voice within the context of an electoral framework in order to elect someone completely different than the last guy who messed up, in fact.

voting is by far the weakest way to achieve change in government. The Civil Rights Act was not voted into being, the 13th, 14th and 19th amendments were not voted into existence. They took action from the people.

You do realize that every single one of those actually WERE voted on...by elected legislative bodies, right? And in fact they are far more accepted by society than judicially imposed change because they were.

vernonFL: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Sometimes, you get ignored and dumped on for so long, you have no choice but to riot.

I see your point. Still, that wasn't covered by my parents' insurance policy.

They should have brought up the 'no choice but to riot' clause.

Actually (and I am sorry for any loss your parents might have sustained) this is exactly the point. If enough people feel like they have been ignored to the point where they feel there is nothing to lose and begin to demand attention, burning down half of a city will cause enough people to scream at the powers that be to make it stop.

Now, how the government goes about making it stop differentiates between the savages and civilized among us.

GaryPDX: This is main why I enjoy my 2nd Amendment. Herd/mob hysteria/panic is a monster of it's own.

Brilliant!

Start shooting at an enraged mob and see how far that gets you.
I know, I know, it's all snark with you when you get called on it.

A_Shogun_named_Rick: You do realize that every single one of those actually WERE voted on...by elected legislative bodies, right? And in fact they are far more accepted by society than judicially imposed change because they were.

And you realize that those votes would never have happened unless there was intense pressure for change, right?