Say what you want, Siamese Dream is incredible. All tied together by the hum that plays thru that whole album. As far as in '90s go, in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, only Ten is on par. And nevermind Nevermind. Siamese Dream blows it away.

/Off my lawm

We have a contender!

Damn. Why you gotta dis Right Said Fred like that?

They were done after they were on the Simpsons.

Axle Rose needs a[clicks]... awww, whatever...

Hm...I wonder if I can get to LA next month....

Back in college, a friend was inspired to write a song called
"Every Drummer Wants To Be Stewart Copland" while auditioning
drummers for his band....

Three Crooked Squirrels: Siamese Dream is incredible.

I liked Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness, in spite of it being overplayed.

But those are the only two Smashing Pumpkins albums I own.

It was all downhill after Gish.

I thought subby was talking about TOOL for a second there.

And Siamese Dream is 80% crapola.

I jnew exactly who was being talked about, well written headline.

Two musicians and a drummer walk into a bar...

What do you call a drummer with no girlfriend? Homeless.

Three Crooked Squirrels: Say what you want, Siamese Dream is incredible. All tied together by the hum that plays thru that whole album. As far as in '90s go, in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, only Ten is on par. And nevermind Nevermind. Siamese Dream blows it away.

/Off my lawm

You know, using properly grounded equipment, and perhaps the judicious use of a noise gate, would have gotten rid of that hum.

/Learned that when I was in a rock band.
//Before you ask, we sucked.
///Total amount I earned as a professional musician: $25 cash, a case of cheap domestic beer, and $100 worth of free tattoos.
////Not all for the same gig.

DjangoStonereaver: Back in college, a friend was inspired to write a song called
"Every Drummer Wants To Be Stewart Copland" while auditioning
drummers for his band....

Hells yes to that. And I'm a drummer. Why should guitars get all the solos?!


Shoot, even Sting could have written that; he actually erased a track or two of hi-hat fills that Stew did for "Every Breath You Take"* when he wasn't in the studio.

/*Great story in an issue of TapeOp with the recording engineer...

This has got to be for publicity...
They can just hire a good drummer, pro drummers who already have press kits they can sift through instead of appealing to the public.

What do you call the derivative of the derivative?

Time to flood that email with spam and rickrolls...

/haven't really paid any attention to their new music, but I like everything up to (and including) Adore

Despite all the hate, Billy Corgan can make some good music. That is all, carry on.

Blowmonkey: Despite all the hate, Billy Corgan can make some good music. That is all, carry on.

Then why doesn't he?

/obvious

Danny Carey is qualified. What's he up to now?

Every time there's been a Smashing Pumpkins greenlight, since 2005, the resultant thread is identical to every single SP-related thread that came before, from "they suck" to "Siamese Dream rocked" to the venerable "everything after Gish was shiat."

Shouldn't the law of diminishing returns hold that these threads be getting 0 replies by now?

Is Jimmy back on the Horse?

joeyromeo: Every time there's been a Smashing Pumpkins greenlight, since 2005, the resultant thread is identical to every single SP-related thread that came before, from "they suck" to "Siamese Dream rocked" to the venerable "everything after Gish was shiat."

Shouldn't the law of diminishing returns hold that these threads be getting 0 replies by now?

Nor did the law didn't apply to U2, Radiohead, NIN, or just about any other fark.com/music thread.

b0rscht: It was all downhill after Gish.

is this some kind of recent phenomena? Sure, Gish did not have complete and utter shiat like Disarm, but Siamese Dream definitely had more memorable tracks.


that said, go write another book of poetry to cry in, Corgan.

carmody: I thought subby was talking about TOOL for a second there.

Bite your tongue.

The sucked after that first demo tape I bought from the back of their van.

carmody: I thought subby was talking about TOOL for a second there.

I LOL'd.

/can't stand Tool

What did the drummer say just before he was kicked out of the band?

Hey guys, I have been writing some songs for the band.

MugzyBrown: The sucked after that first demo tape I bought from the back of their van.

yeah right....it was all downhill after "My Eternity" and "East."

Apik0r0s: What do you call the derivative of the derivative?

I was told there would be no math. But I know this one: the "second" derivative.

How is this any different from when Billy Corgan went solo? Oh right, its not. Smashing Pumpkins stopped existing after Machina, and quite honestly, stopped being good a ways before that.

I'll take their pretentious pseudo-metal over Nickelback any day, assmitter.

PowerSlacker: I'll take their pretentious pseudo-metal over Nickelback any day, assmitter.

stop making excuses for mediocrity. Just because SP at their worst are better than Nickelback are at their best (a dubious claim since Nickelback never wrote Disarm) doesn't detract from the fact that SP hasn't been good in a damn long time.

tedbundee: How is this any different from when Billy Corgan went solo? Oh right, its not. Smashing Pumpkins stopped existing after Machina, and quite honestly, stopped being good a ways before that.

Are you saying that there was a time, when they weren't a steaming pile of whiny dog shiat?

FeedTheCollapse: a dubious claim since Nickelback never wrote Disarm)

Yeah yeah, we get it, you don't like Disarm. Move on.

Fark Billy, give it up, its over.

tedbundee: How is this any different from when Billy Corgan went solo? Oh right, its not. Smashing Pumpkins stopped existing after Machina, and quite honestly, stopped being good a ways before that.

It really was Adore that started the downfall, and everyone knew it at the time. I can still listen to that album and those following it, and I understand that Billy was trying to go in another direction, but it was just...boring. Machina I, Machina II, the Zwan mistake, the latest album. All boring.

I've always maintained that Siamese Dream was my favorite album, but I do think they were at their peak with Mellon Collie. In fact, of all of their discs, the one I currently listen to the most is the compilation I made from the Aeroplane box (B-sides to Mellon Collie).

Handsome B. Wonderful: FeedTheCollapse: a dubious claim since Nickelback never wrote Disarm)

Yeah yeah, we get it, you don't like Disarm. Move on.

not until you admit Disarm is seriously one of the worst songs by anyone ever. I would probably take a Nickelback/Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park mash-up over another listen to Disarm.

For a minute, I thought Don Dokken was going to replace Mick Brown.

pseudo-metal? Really?

/that word, I don't think it means what you think it means

FeedTheCollapse: not until you admit Disarm is seriously one of the worst songs by anyone ever. I would probably take a Nickelback/Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park mash-up over another listen to Disarm.

No. Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm Disarm.

/Disarm

Rev. Skarekroe: Danny Carey is qualified. What's he up to now?

making terrible records with his band since aenima.

calling the Smashing Pumpkins psuedo-metal is the stupidest thing Ive read today, but its only 2pm

overfienduglar: tedbundee: How is this any different from when Billy Corgan went solo? Oh right, its not. Smashing Pumpkins stopped existing after Machina, and quite honestly, stopped being good a ways before that.

Are you saying that there was a time, when they weren't a steaming pile of whiny dog shiat?

No.


Fallout Zone: tedbundee: How is this any different from when Billy Corgan went solo? Oh right, its not. Smashing Pumpkins stopped existing after Machina, and quite honestly, stopped being good a ways before that.

It really was Adore that started the downfall, and everyone knew it at the time. I can still listen to that album and those following it, and I understand that Billy was trying to go in another direction, but it was just...boring. Machina I, Machina II, the Zwan mistake, the latest album. All boring.

I've always maintained that Siamese Dream was my favorite album, but I do think they were at their peak with Mellon Collie. In fact, of all of their discs, the one I currently listen to the most is the compilation I made from the Aeroplane box (B-sides to Mellon Collie).

Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie were my favorite. Adore was a weird change. I liked Machina because it was really easy to pick up, but clearly not their best material. I really stopped listening once Machina II came out and haven't been excited one bit about anything Billy Corgan has been up to since.

henryhill: calling the Smashing Pumpkins psuedo-metal is the stupidest thing Ive read today, but its only 2pm

"Siva/I am one" opened up with double kick-drum eighth-notes...

FeedTheCollapse: PowerSlacker: I'll take their pretentious pseudo-metal over Nickelback any day, assmitter.

stop making excuses for mediocrity. Just because SP at their worst are better than Nickelback are at their best (a dubious claim since Nickelback never wrote Disarm) doesn't detract from the fact that SP hasn't been good in a damn long time.

Why can't people tell the difference between fact and opinion?

Pathetic

SP - the bands over all sound was good back in the early 90s, but yea - what a whiney woman on vocals, huh? Couldn't imagine being on stage with the sound of a cat in heat song after song.

EdNortonsTwin

SP - the bands over all sound was good back in the early 90s, but yea - what a whiney woman on vocals, huh? Couldn't imagine being on stage with the sound of a cat in heat song after song.

I got free tickets to their concert in Davenport last August (8/8/08) and sat in the third row. They played a good show, even if they're not someone I listen to excessively. A friend of mine had balcony seats, and he asked my impression of the show. I said it was great for what it was. He said that he could barely hear Billy's "strangled, womany vocals" over the guitars, bass, and drums.

The English Major: EdNortonsTwin

SP - the bands over all sound was good back in the early 90s, but yea - what a whiney woman on vocals, huh? Couldn't imagine being on stage with the sound of a cat in heat song after song.

I got free tickets to their concert in Davenport last August (8/8/08) and sat in the third row. They played a good show, even if they're not someone I listen to excessively. A friend of mine had balcony seats, and he asked my impression of the show. I said it was great for what it was. He said that he could barely hear Billy's "strangled, womany vocals" over the guitars, bass, and drums.

"I said it was great for what it was."

Good attitude. Thats exactly the response my partner and I give when asked directly about a bands performance. Very diplomatic, especially when you run a recording studio...heahea hea. "It's not my kind of music, but it's good for what it is."

EdNortonsTwin

"I said it was great for what it was."

Good attitude. Thats exactly the response my partner and I give when asked directly about a bands performance. Very diplomatic, especially when you run a recording studio...heahea hea. "It's not my kind of music, but it's good for what it is."

My girlfriend loathes the Pumpkins; her ticket went to my dad, who had a better time than me. What was interesting about that concert was that the first four rows were sitting, and everyone else was standing. It was...bizarre. For me, they're definitely a "greatest hits" band... I spent the nineties listening to classic rock, so I missed a lot of the "popular" stuff.

/subby