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(AP) Asinine Students paint school's fight song on gym walls, forced to remove it because the word "fellow" is too sexist   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 60
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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 12:59:06 PM  
Finstad asked junior Bridget Nickel to rewrite the words. She came up with a version that removed gender-specific terms.

You know what's asinine?

Being a reporter who thinks it's somehow acceptable or appropriate to turn in an article, even one this brief, that contains this sentence without an explanation of what the re-written version is.

That's what's asinine.

 
DslainteC [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 12:59:55 PM  
This reminds me of my days as a holy-rollin' Christian. We used to sing a worship song with these lyrics:

"I will proclaim the glory of the risen Lord
Who once was slain to reconcile man to God."


In spite of the fact that the word "man" in this context was clearly synonymous with "mankind" (i.e. every human regardless of sex), the greasy thugs decided that the offensive word might make it difficult for woman to enter into the spirit of worship. Thus, the word "man" was changed to "us."

It seems like it's asking too much of people these days to think and put things in context.

 
smooshie [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 01:06:46 PM  
The old song, sung only by womyn-hating sexists:

Waupun High School
Waupun High School
Fight on for your fame.
Pass the ball right through
the center,
Touchdown sure this time.
U-Rah-Rah
Waupun High School
Waupun High School,
Fight on for your fame,
Fight fellows, fight,
fight, fight,
We'll win this game!


The new song:

Waupun Warriors
Waupun Warriors
Fight on for your fame.
Cheer the black and cheer
the gold,
On to victory!
U-Rah-Rah
Waupun Warriors
Waupun Warriors
Fight on for your fame,
Fight Warriors fight,
fight, fight,
We'll win this game!


Link (new window)

 
ne2d [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 01:27:46 PM  
The story as I see it:

Principal: "Hey, I just realized our fight song says 'fellows.' Since we now have men's and women's athletics, wouldn't it make more sense to just say 'warriors'? After all, it's a bit silly to call girls 'fellows,' isn't it?"

The internet: "ZOMG political correctness run amok!"

 
Bukharin [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 01:28:50 PM  
I have known many women that have or had college fellowships.

 
H_is_for_Heretic 2009-03-29 01:35:54 PM  
DslainteC:

"I will proclaim the glory of the risen Lord
Who once was slain to reconcile man to God."

In spite of the fact that the word "man" in this context was clearly synonymous with "mankind" (i.e. every human regardless of sex), the greasy thugs decided that the offensive word might make it difficult for woman to enter into the spirit of worship. Thus, the word "man" was changed to "us."


But changing that hymn (being written in 1987 you're correct in calling it a "worship song") doesn't mess up the meter and it retains the meaning. Same with the fight song- I think the deciding point should be how old it is and how much money to change it.

 
brap [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:15:27 PM  
Pocket Ninja: You know what's asinine?

Being a reporter who thinks it's somehow acceptable or appropriate to turn in an article, even one this brief, that contains this sentence without an explanation of what the re-written version is.

That's what's asinine.


Fight fellowshe/he for we all are free, to be, you and me, fight, fight, fight!

 
Heamer 2009-03-29 02:40:53 PM  
B*tches and hos.

 
buzzvert [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:41:04 PM  
Isn't the bigger issue the use of "Warriors", a term associated with dem dere Injuns?

 
vlakorados 2009-03-29 02:42:39 PM  
And now I have Tom Lehrer's version of the Harvard fight song stuck in my head.

/oh goody!

 
pandertome 2009-03-29 02:43:43 PM  
The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a "W" for "Warriors" but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight.

Wait... what?

 
buzzvert [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:44:20 PM  
FTA: "The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a 'W' for 'Warriors' but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight."

blog.ibj.com

Much better.

 
yyaskyy 2009-03-29 02:45:48 PM  
smooshie: The old song, sung only by womyn-hating sexists:

Waupun High School
Waupun High School
Fight on for your fame.
Pass the ball right through
the center,
Touchdown sure this time.
U-Rah-Rah
Waupun High School
Waupun High School,
Fight on for your fame,
Fight fellows, fight,
fight, fight,
We'll win this game!

The new song:

Waupun Warriors
Waupun Warriors
Fight on for your fame.
Cheer the black and cheer
the gold,
On to victory!
U-Rah-Rah
Waupun Warriors
Waupun Warriors
Fight on for your fame,
Fight Warriors fight,
fight, fight,
We'll win this game!

Link (new window)


That should piss off the white folk

 
radioman_ 2009-03-29 03:02:48 PM  
A member of an notable and distinguished organization is called a "fellow" regardless of gender. Example - Fellow, American College of Surgeons. The FACS designation in the medical profession is highly regarded.

Someone in that school needs a life.

 
YouPeopleAreCrazy 2009-03-29 03:04:42 PM  
smooshie: "Waupun Warriors
Fight on for your fame,
Fight Warriors fight,
fight, fight,"


Rewrite, please. Too much violence.

 
videogamesizzle 2009-03-29 03:06:36 PM  
but...it's the...fight...song...shouldn't...wha?

 
2chris2 2009-03-29 03:07:33 PM  
Waupun High School
Waupun High School
Fight on for your fame.
Pass the ball right through
the center,
Touchdown sure this time.
U-Rah-Rah
Waupun High School
Waupun High School,
Fight on for your fame,
Fight fellows, fight,
fight, fight,
We'll win this game!


Good lord, those are some horrible lyrics.

Simply picking any random word from that and changing it to any other random word would be almost guaranteed to make it better, so I wouldn't let this piece of crap be written on the walls of my school either.

 
Hot Lunch 2009-03-29 03:10:28 PM  
yyaskyy: That should piss off the white folk

NOTHING pisses off the white folk. Not in any meaningful way, at least. Sure, you'll get a couple rumbles here and there, but Obama could say he wishes he wasn't even part white and we'd all shrug it off.

 
Lou Cypher 2009-03-29 03:10:46 PM  
A society is rather sick when the most overly sensitive members are allowed to set the standards for the whole.

 
BSdegree 2009-03-29 03:10:49 PM  
You know what, I'm going to go out, and look for something that pisses me off! I'm going to find something and have it changed because I find it offensive! And if I can't find anything offensive to have changed because I've nothing better to do, then I'll just go write for the Chicago Sun Times. The End...?

 
NegativeNine 2009-03-29 03:12:43 PM  
The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a "W" for "Warriors" but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight.

I don't get it. Why is a "W" politically incorrect?

 
buzzvert [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:14:54 PM  
"On Wisconsin" called, and it wants its melody from being ass-raped by being paired with these lyrics.

 
Son of Thunder 2009-03-29 03:17:00 PM  
I have nothing intelligent to contribute to this discussion, so:

BUD: ...now you've got to get ready for the opening game...
LOU: Yeah, I think we're going to play the Cleveland Indians...
BUD: Cleveland Indians, eh...?
LOU: Uh-huh...
BUD: Feller pitching?
LOU: Certainly there's a feller pitching...what do you think they'd use, a girl?
BUD: Oh, I...I know they don't use a girl...I said, "Feller pitching..."
LOU: What feller?
BUD: Feller, with the Cleveland Indians...
LOU: Look, Abbott...there's nine guys on the Cleveland team...which feller are you talking about?
BUD: Feller that pitches...there is only one Feller with Cleveland...
LOU: You mean nine Yankees are going to play against one feller?
BUD: That's right.
LOU: You mean there's no fellers in the outfield?
BUD: No!
LOU: And there's no fellers in the infield?
BUD: No...Cleveland only has one Feller...
LOU: Well, this feller must be pretty good if he don't need any other players but himself...
BUD: Look, all the players will be out there helping him...
LOU: You just said that there was only one feller on the team...
BUD: That's right!
LOU: Then where did all those other fellers come from?
BUD: Why, you idiot...when I say there's only one Feller on the team, I mean that there is only one Feller that pitches...
LOU: Well, Abbott...when the manager of the team wants this pitcher, what does he call him?
BUD: Feller!
LOU: You mean he just hollers "HEY FELLER!" and this guy knows that they mean him?
BUD: That's right.
LOU: Hoo hoo...
BUD: His name is Feller! Feller! Bob Feller! And when I say that there is only one Feller on the team that pitches, that's it...and the feller that pitches is Feller...there's other fellers on the team, but there's only one Feller...
LOU: Boy, are you mixed up...oh, you mean the feller that pitches is Feller...and there's other fellers on the team but they aren't fellers?
BUD: Now you grasp it...
LOU: Yes...I grasp it...but it keeps slippin' out of my hands!

/who's on first

 
GreatUnclean 2009-03-29 03:20:52 PM  
Western European society is destroying itself much like Rome did. This is just another example of how we've lost our grip on reality, and soon we will be replaced due to our own decadence.

 
BoneStorm 2009-03-29 03:21:11 PM  
ne2d: Principal: "Hey, I just realized our fight song says 'fellows.' Since we now have men's and women's athletics, wouldn't it make more sense to just say 'warriors'? After all, it's a bit silly to call girls 'fellows,' isn't it?"

The internet: "ZOMG political correctness run amok!"


You're part of the problem.

 
jbrooks544 2009-03-29 03:21:13 PM  
Hasn't anyone pointed out to those dumbasses that "fellows" can be used for both men and women?

unbelievable ignorant stupidity, leading to unnecessary PC bullshiat.

 
Honeyporter 2009-03-29 03:23:35 PM  
NegativeNine: The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a "W" for "Warriors" but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight.

I don't get it. Why is a "W" politically incorrect?


My guess is because W stands for WAR-riors so the changed it to a knight. That or it bothered the the teachers union that of course hated Bush.

 
OtherLittleGuy 2009-03-29 03:28:37 PM  
Approves:

{MorganFreemanInLeanOnMe.gif}

Disappoves:

{WarriorsComeOutAndPlaaaaayyyy.gif}

"For Boston" was changed about 20 years ago so that Boston Colege was no longer "where men are men".

/then again, this BC produces Elizabeth Hassellbeck

 
henryhill 2009-03-29 03:29:10 PM  
Fellow, as used in the context of the song, has no gender attached to it, it just means an associate or comrade, or more broadly, another human being

 
dennysgod 2009-03-29 03:30:25 PM  
fel·low
Pronunciation: \ˈfe-(ˌ)lō\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English felawe, from Old English fēolaga, from Old Norse fēlagi, from fēlag partnership, from fē cattle, money + lag act of laying

1: comrade , associate
2 a: an equal in rank, power, or character : peer b: one of a pair : mate
3: a member of a group having common characteristics ; specifically : a member of an incorporated literary or scientific society.
4 aobsolete : a person of one of the lower social classes b. archaic : a worthless man or boy

Sounds like the only sexist here is the principle.

 
farkin_Gary [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:30:32 PM  
"My fellow (politically correct)Americans..."

fellow: a person who is member of your class or profession; "the surgeon consulted her fellow colleagues"; "she sent an e-mail to her fellow Farkers"

i10.photobucket.com


"Why don't you take a high dive into the clam drip!?"

 
Teafortwo 2009-03-29 03:30:43 PM  
How long before this thread degenerate into a a lesson in American Human Rights by farkers (new window)!

/Turns out that THEY didn't really, it was a suggestion by a worthless MEP
//YOU did though :)

 
mason4300 2009-03-29 03:37:32 PM  
"Fight comrades, fight, fight, fight."

Fixed that for you, ya farking commie bastard principal.

 
heinekenftw 2009-03-29 03:41:52 PM  
What a load of stupid. How does changing a word do anything to help any social cause? Seriously, anyone who gets upset over a word like "fellow" should see a proctologist to get that huge stick surgically removed from their ass.

Its pathetic how much we fear to be even slightly PC that we have to put up such retarded measures. It doesn't even make sense to consider it to be sexist.

My god this is becoming a nation of lawsuits and bullshiat.

 
heinekenftw 2009-03-29 03:45:18 PM  
radioman_: A member of an notable and distinguished organization is called a "fellow" regardless of gender. Example - Fellow, American College of Surgeons. The FACS designation in the medical profession is highly regarded.

Someone in that school needs a life.


Hell, my school has a nationwide fraternity, Alpha-Eta-Rho, a club for aviation people. All of their members are called "brothers" even though both male and female alike are included and given equal status.

 
takesthecake 2009-03-29 03:46:24 PM  
DslainteC: This reminds me of my days as a holy-rollin' Christian. We used to sing a worship song with these lyrics:

"I will proclaim the glory of the risen Lord
Who once was slain to reconcile man to God."

In spite of the fact that the word "man" in this context was clearly synonymous with "mankind" (i.e. every human regardless of sex), the greasy thugs decided that the offensive word might make it difficult for woman to enter into the spirit of worship. Thus, the word "man" was changed to "us."

It seems like it's asking too much of people these days to think and put things in context.


yeah, you're a guy

 
clifton [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:49:30 PM  
What's wrong with being sexy?

 
cwolf20 [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:55:02 PM  
The word "it" may be removed from the dictionary due to the fact that many people use it in the place of "him" or "her" when referencing people who've had sex changes

 
ArmyWarVet 2009-03-29 03:57:49 PM  
NegativeNine: The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a "W" for "Warriors" but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight.

I don't get it. Why is a "W" politically incorrect?


Former president George "W" Bush.

 
Griswold 2009-03-29 04:13:56 PM  
Heamer: B*tches and hos. Old and Busted...


New Hotness, "Boats and Hoes"
img147.imageshack.us

/very Hot

 
Squidgilum 2009-03-29 04:22:14 PM  
I belong to the International "Brotherhood" of Teamsters. I'll never understand how they get away with that in this day and age.

...Of course, I'll never understand how they get away with 90% of the sh*t they pull.

 
JonnyBGoode 2009-03-29 04:22:44 PM  
I've heard the old song sung "for she's a jolly good fellow" before. Fellow used to be gender-neutral.

This is what happens when schools indoctrinate instead of educate. You get people that don't know the meaning or history of simple words, only the mantra they've been told to repeat.

 
darth_shatner 2009-03-29 04:22:50 PM  
Fantastic news. I'm sure that this will strike a blow for womens rights everywhere. Thanks to this very school, girls in Pakistan will soon be shedding their burquas and singing Helen Reddy songs

 
bibitte 2009-03-29 04:27:24 PM  
Re: Article and most farkers in this thread...
"There is no cure for stupid."

 
Psychomancer 2009-03-29 04:41:38 PM  
Earth to idiot principal - You are a douche.

 
abberz3589 2009-03-29 04:45:19 PM  
High school fight songs are almost all very alike.
Mine went very similar:
On, ole Murphy
On, ole Murphy Run right through that line
Take the ball around the goalpost
Touchdown sure this time
rah rah rah HEY
On, ole Murphy
On, ole Murphy
Fighting for our fame
Fight, fellows
fight fight fight
To win this game. HEY.

I'm a feminist and I never really cared. Football was the main sport, and although girls were allowed to play, no girl really wanted to.

 
CornFedIowan 2009-03-29 05:08:50 PM  
NegativeNine: The school has dealt previously with an issue of political correctness. The school logo used to be a "W" for "Warriors" but it's been replaced by a character that looks like a knight.

I don't get it. Why is a "W" politically incorrect?


I think the reporter messed up. The school likely got into a copyright infringement situation. As of late, the University of Wisconsin has aggressively gone after any high school that uses a "W" logo that remotely resembles their "W".

Fortunately, "On Wisconsin" is in the public domain, having been written before 1923.

 
aerojockey [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 05:09:27 PM  
JonnyBGoode

I've heard the old song sung "for she's a jolly good fellow" before. Fellow used to be gender-neutral.

This is what happens when schools indoctrinate instead of educate. You get people that don't know the meaning or history of simple words, only the mantra they've been told to repeat.


While we're talking about the word history of "fellow", we might point out that back in the day (like Shakespeare's time) it meant something like "redneck".

By the way, I'd have to disagree that fellow is gender-neutral; it's one of those words like "guys" which is sometimes gender neutral and sometimes not, depending on context. And I am not opposed to rewriting lyrics to be more inclusive of both sexes, but it's really petty to throw a conniption about it. Go to the school board and have them commission a change, and the phase the old lyrics out. No reason to cry bloody murder.

 
some swedish girl 2009-03-29 05:29:17 PM  
Well it is sexist. Just look at the two phallic l's lined up in front of the o, blocking it from getting ahead and wanting to have their way with it, and then you have the w all spread out like that. The l's are just like men everywhere! Women are not all w's and o's!

 
Midnight Rambler 2009-03-29 05:56:17 PM  
Came in for looking for what clifton said.

 
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