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(Miami Herald) Florida Florida jailed man with Alzheimer's and brain cancer 32 years after his prison escape. Compassionate sunshine justice   (miamiherald.com) divider line 54
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FlyingLizardOfDoom [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 10:06:15 AM  
Doesn't matter how old you are or what you got when they catch you. If you escape from prison and get caught, you go back. Book em, Danno.

 
2wolves 2009-03-29 10:28:35 AM  
He just wanted the free health care...

 
Scrophulous Barking Duck 2009-03-29 10:30:00 AM  
FlyingLizardofDoom Doesn't matter how old you are or what you got when they catch you. If you escape from prison and get caught, you go back. Book em, Danno.

Justice is all very well, but locking up a dying old guy achieves little and puts his health care costs on the taxpayer.

 
Eat_At_Milliways [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 12:28:34 PM  
Scrophulous Barking Duck: Justice is all very well, but locking up a dying old guy achieves little and puts his health care costs on the taxpayer.

So you're saying if you can manage to bust out, you shouldn't have to go back?

 
TexasPeace [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 12:29:09 PM  
He robbed a woman at knifepoint, then served 10 months.

In TX he would get 30 years.

 
ExJerseyGirl [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 01:04:50 PM  
TexasPeace: He robbed a woman at knifepoint, then served 10 months.

In TX he would get 30 years.


He stole some candy bars and when confronted he pulled a knife out and left. In MA they would make him pay for the candy bars and give him 2 years at most.

 
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:10:24 PM  
Aggravated assault (which is what they charged him with) is generally two years. Maybe he got more because he robbed the place. Seems a little harsh, at any rate.

 
CrispFlows 2009-03-29 02:46:50 PM  
Eat_At_Milliways: Scrophulous Barking Duck: Justice is all very well, but locking up a dying old guy achieves little and puts his health care costs on the taxpayer.

So you're saying if you can manage to bust out, you shouldn't have to go back?


Since I agree with his statement, I'll put my perspective on it:
Justice needs to work on a case by case basis - Not by zero tolerance or selective enforcement by political and monetary influence.

 
CruJones 2009-03-29 02:47:04 PM  
Scrophulous Barking Duck: FlyingLizardofDoom Doesn't matter how old you are or what you got when they catch you. If you escape from prison and get caught, you go back. Book em, Danno.

Justice is all very well, but locking up a dying old guy achieves little and puts his health care costs on the taxpayer.


you didn't read the article did you? They let him out

 
wookie_x 2009-03-29 02:52:14 PM  
Did anyone RTFA? Guy spends 32 years free, raises a family, gets caught by the feds in 2008, and will be cut loose (without escaping) on Tuesday. All you people whining about how tough or unfair the system is can suck it.

 
nictamer 2009-03-29 02:52:54 PM  
FlyingLizardOfDoom: Doesn't matter how old you are or what you got when they catch you. If you escape from prison and get caught, you go back. Book em, Danno.

Thanks to retarded tough guys like you, the USA has 10x more inmates than Europe (and most of the world, actually), and no less crime.

Way to go.

Keep on keepin' on.

 
Phoenix_M 2009-03-29 02:54:39 PM  
Nowhere in the story does it say he has Alzheimer's and/or brain cancer.

 
Chester J. Lampwick 2009-03-29 02:55:43 PM  
"But when I met Charlie, I knew I had to help him. He is a man of great character and said from the get-go, `What I did was wrong, and I need to pay for it.''

Yeah, from the get-go. Or, in this case, from the moment his time as a fugitive ended.

 
NickBush24 [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:56:28 PM  
Phoenix_M: Nowhere in the story does it say he has Alzheimer's and/or brain cancer.

You do realise there's two pages, right? >.>

 
Chester J. Lampwick 2009-03-29 02:58:57 PM  
wookie_x: Did anyone RTFA? Guy spends 32 years free, raises a family, gets caught by the feds in 2008, and will be cut loose (without escaping) on Tuesday. All you people whining about how tough or unfair the system is can suck it.

Exactly. He spent less time on the inside - both times combined - than he would have if he had served his original time without escape.

 
wookie_x 2009-03-29 02:59:13 PM  
Phoenix_M: Nowhere in the story does it say he has Alzheimer's and/or brain cancer.

FTFA: "He has a variety of serious ailments, including Alzheimer's, brain cancer, multiple sclerosis and diabetes. His wife and daughters didn't want him to die behind bars."

 
Linux_Yes [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 02:59:17 PM  
too bad he isn't Wealthy.

in America, its called JUSTUS.

Just US rich Folks.

 
que.guero 2009-03-29 02:59:27 PM  
If only this guy were a hot wife who set up her husband to get busted for drug and firearm possession, he'd be free and clear...

 
Swagger Jacker 2009-03-29 03:01:52 PM  
Veteran comes home to nothing, is broke and homeless, steals a box of candy bars from a 7-11 while letting the the cashier know of a fishing knife on his person that he never uses on her, gets arrested, escapes, and then 32 years later, is dragged back to prison to serve a sentence which was bullshiat in the first place, now that he has Alzheimer's, brain cancer, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, and a loving family to be dragged away from.

Some random asshole on fark thinks this is alright.

The cosmic order is balanced once again.

 
Phoenix_M 2009-03-29 03:02:26 PM  
NickBush24: Phoenix_M: Nowhere in the story does it say he has Alzheimer's and/or brain cancer.

You do realise there's two pages, right? >.>


Oop's I missed the 2nd page, i just woke up and haven't had any coffee yet.

 
Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute 2009-03-29 03:02:27 PM  
Payback is a biatch.


You do the crime, you do the time.

 
Rubber Biscuit 2009-03-29 03:03:32 PM  
This is just stupid. The spirit of the law is ignored and the letter followed to a "T".

The guy will, in a short time, not even realize he's being punished. This is Texas crap.

 
FormlessOne 2009-03-29 03:04:43 PM  
FlyingLizardOfDoom: Doesn't matter how old you are or what you got when they catch you. If you escape from prison and get caught, you go back. Book em, Danno.

Don't see the problem here, either. He committed the crime; justice isn't doled out when it's convenient to the criminal.

 
proteus_b 2009-03-29 03:04:46 PM  
comments by those like linux_yes are pretty scary. yes, the wealthy can hire lawyers and get themselves off. it sucks, but this is america. i would rather 100 guilty men go free than convict an innocent man. those like linux_yes who think that we shouldn't have the right to hire a lawyer to defend ourselves should put themselves in the shoes of Joan of Arc, facing 35 english judges, and thank god that we have freedom here. it sounds good, the notion that the state would "provide an equally competent lawyer to each and every citizen". but it's a bit of a conflict of interest when it's that same state who is trying you. look no further than that "kickbacks for convictions" case involving juveniles recently.

 
borg [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:06:25 PM  
Swagger Jacker: Veteran comes home to nothing, is broke and homeless, steals a box of candy bars from a 7-11 while letting the the cashier know of a fishing knife on his person that he never uses on her, gets arrested, escapes, and then 32 years later, is dragged back to prison to serve a sentence which was bullshiat in the first place, now that he has Alzheimer's, brain cancer, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, and a loving family to be dragged away from.

Some random asshole on fark thinks this is alright.

The cosmic order is balanced once again.


Thousands came home and didn't commit armed robbery.

 
Sudlow 2009-03-29 03:08:31 PM  
ExJerseyGirl
"In MA they would make him pay for the candy bars and give him 2 years at most."

If he had no prior convictions in MA, they'd plea bargain it down to larceny and give him parole.

 
TheAbstractor [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:09:57 PM  
"Florida jailed man with Alzheimer's and brain cancer"

His cellmates? Wouldn't want to mess with those guys.

/got nothing

 
Flaming Yawn 2009-03-29 03:13:52 PM  
Welcome to the United Prison States.

Good headline on the newspaper magazine. "We have 5% of the world's population, and 25% of the worlds prisoners are in our jails. Either we're the most evil country in the world or we're doing something terribly wrong."

He goes on to assume the second. But that's probably because he's a Democrat. Republicans would probably assume the first. (Excluding themselves of course.)

Russia is trying to catch up but hasn't quite done it yet.

North Korea may be worse but it's hard to know. Anyone want to go there and ask?

 
CruJones 2009-03-29 03:15:00 PM  
Rubber Biscuit: This is just stupid. The spirit of the law is ignored and the letter followed to a "T".

The guy will, in a short time, not even realize he's being punished. This is Texas crap.


READ THE FARKING ARTICLE YOU DAMN IDIOTS THEY LET HIM OUT

 
austerity101 2009-03-29 03:20:26 PM  
He was fit to stand trial, but since he now has Alzheimer's, is he mentally fit to serve his sentence?

 
kellynoel [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 03:23:50 PM  
Flaming Yawn: Good headline on the newspaper magazine. "We have 5% of the world's population, and 25% of the worlds prisoners are in our jails. Either we're the most evil country in the world or we're doing something terribly wrong."

Or other nations are doing something terribly wrong.

 
Allornone 2009-03-29 03:24:17 PM  
What the fark are you talking about?

He committed a crime that by today's standards (unless you're Texas, I suppose) would not have yielded a long prison term, considering it was his first offense and all he really stole were candy bars.

He escapes.

They catch him 32 years later and take him back to jail. Since he did actually commit a crime, that makes perfect sense.

A year later, he gets LET OUT on parole since he's proven that he's basically not a threat to the community.

What's the problem here? The people who claim it's unjust to jail a sick old man seem to have missed the fact that they let him out. The people that think he did the crime, he should do the time, are acting like they've never heard of parole. DO you people just like to argue for the hell of it or what?

 
down4afall 2009-03-29 03:25:32 PM  
Flaming Yawn: Welcome to the United Prison States.

Good headline on the newspaper magazine. "We have 5% of the world's population, and 25% of the worlds prisoners are in our jails. Either we're the most evil country in the world or we're doing something terribly wrong."

He goes on to assume the second. But that's probably because he's a Democrat. Republicans would probably assume the first. (Excluding themselves of course.)

Russia is trying to catch up but hasn't quite done it yet.

North Korea may be worse but it's hard to know. Anyone want to go there and ask?


You're right. We should just be executing everyone, like Iran.

 
walnuts55 [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 04:00:05 PM  
ExJerseyGirl: TexasPeace: He robbed a woman at knifepoint, then served 10 months.

In TX he would get 30 years.

He stole some candy bars and when confronted he pulled a knife out and left. In MA they would make him pay for the candy bars and give him 2 years at most.


Must side with Texas om this and I hate Texas.
Pull a knife or a gun you are not a nice person.

 
charliewade 2009-03-29 04:00:53 PM  
Let me get this straight: he had 32 years to come clean and get that mess straightened out but didn't. So the feds had to come and get him instead.

I can appreciate that his health isn't good. But if he was doing construction for many of those 32 years, he was obviously well enough to get an attorney and get that shiat straightened out.

Nice guy. Very selfish of him.

 
SharkTrager 2009-03-29 04:22:12 PM  
Rubber Biscuit: This is just stupid. The spirit of the law is ignored and the letter followed to a "T".

The guy will, in a short time, not even realize he's being punished. This is Texas crap.


You know how I can tell you didn't RTFA?

 
Fluffy_the_cactus 2009-03-29 04:45:58 PM  
You know... after successfully escaping AND maintaining a clean record for 32 years... I dunno, I'd say let him go in this case.

 
drrjb 2009-03-29 04:56:28 PM  
I'd consider alzheimer's, cancer and having to go by the name Charlie Free punishment enough

 
Hrist 2009-03-29 05:01:18 PM  
Might I direct the attention of you naysayers to a case of one Jean Valjean?

He 'escaped' from parole and spent a very long time in hiding and doing good. He was genuinely sorry, and had given himself hell for what he had done.

Did the police, namely Javert, want to see him go free? No. They wanted to drag him back to prison for the rest of his life.

Because he broke a window, and stole a loaf of bread.

 
Degenz 2009-03-29 05:19:50 PM  
Phoenix_M: NickBush24: Phoenix_M: Nowhere in the story does it say he has Alzheimer's and/or brain cancer.

You do realise there's two pages, right? >.>

Oop's I missed the 2nd page, i just woke up and haven't had any coffee yet.


LOL, I can relate =P

 
almafuerte 2009-03-29 05:22:04 PM  
Flaming Yawn: Welcome to the United Prison States.

"We have 5% of the world's population, and 25% of the worlds prisoners are in our jails. Either we're the most evil country in the world or we're doing something terribly wrong."

Both.

 
Degenz 2009-03-29 05:29:16 PM  
Brockway: Fluffy_the_cactus: You know... after successfully escaping AND maintaining a clean record for 32 years... I dunno, I'd say let him go in this case.

Because he didn't get caught in his 32-year crime spree? Yeah, that's just brilliant.


Well of course he didn't get caught, everyone knows the entire criminal justice system is corrupt and incompetent.

 
pestluvr 2009-03-29 05:45:23 PM  
cryinoutloud: Aggravated assault (which is what they charged him with) is generally two years. Maybe he got more because he robbed the place it's Florida. Seems a little harsh, at any rate.

FTFY

 
cmb53208 2009-03-29 05:49:19 PM  
face it folks' there was no compassion on the part of Floriduh officials, they just didn't want to be responsible for the very expensive care he was gonna need.

 
Rubber Biscuit 2009-03-29 07:10:00 PM  
CruJones: Rubber Biscuit: This is just stupid. The spirit of the law is ignored and the letter followed to a "T".

The guy will, in a short time, not even realize he's being punished. This is Texas crap.

READ THE FARKING ARTICLE YOU DAMN IDIOTS THEY LET HIM OUT


Sorry, Cruex. I didn't read the article. I was commenting on the idea of putting such a man behind bars.

BTW- don't you have a pile of cack out back to suck? Get slurpin'!

 
rmoody 2009-03-29 07:12:12 PM  
Allornone: What the fark are you talking about?

He committed a crime that by today's standards (unless you're Texas, I suppose) would not have yielded a long prison term, considering it was his first offense and all he really stole were candy bars.

He escapes.

They catch him 32 years later and take him back to jail. Since he did actually commit a crime, that makes perfect sense.

A year later, he gets LET OUT on parole since he's proven that he's basically not a threat to the community.

What's the problem here? The people who claim it's unjust to jail a sick old man seem to have missed the fact that they let him out. The people that think he did the crime, he should do the time, are acting like they've never heard of parole. DO you people just like to argue for the hell of it or what?


Actually, it's "I HAVE TO PROAST FURST SO EVERYONE CAN SEE MY IMMACULATE WIT!!1".

 
Braindeath 2009-03-29 07:17:58 PM  
Oh hey, I love this joke.

 
Bathia_Mapes [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 07:50:33 PM  
Phoenix_M: cancer

The article has two pages. From the second page: "He has a variety of serious ailments, including Alzheimer's, brain cancer, multiple sclerosis and diabetes. His wife and daughters didn't want him to die behind bars."

 
555-FILK 2009-03-29 07:57:16 PM  
Allornone: What the fark are you talking about?

He committed a crime that by today's standards (unless you're Texas, I suppose) would not have yielded a long prison term, considering it was his first offense and all he really stole were candy bars.

He escapes.

They catch him 32 years later and take him back to jail. Since he did actually commit a crime, that makes perfect sense.

A year later, he gets LET OUT on parole since he's proven that he's basically not a threat to the community.

What's the problem here? The people who claim it's unjust to jail a sick old man seem to have missed the fact that they let him out. The people that think he did the crime, he should do the time, are acting like they've never heard of parole. DO you people just like to argue for the hell of it or what?


Welcome to Fark; home of many retards.

While fleeing Union County in 1976, Hazen picked up a student ID card he had found at a motel near Jacksonville: Charles Danny Free. He used it to get a driver's license and a Social Security card.

Ironic, no?

 
doglover [TotalFark] 2009-03-29 08:59:18 PM  
Eat_At_Milliways: Scrophulous Barking Duck: Justice is all very well, but locking up a dying old guy achieves little and puts his health care costs on the taxpayer.

So you're saying if you can manage to bust out, you shouldn't have to go back?


If you get out, get terminally sick, and your crime wasn't a violent one... If I were the DA I'd let you off the hook if I could.

But if your crime WAS a violent one, especially of the "rape, murder, arson, rape" variety and you escaped, I would tell some "top men" that our files say this criminal escaped today and was never seen again, nudge nudge wink wink quicklime.

 
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