Please don't let it be C. Please don't let it be C. Please don't let it be C.

**click**

*Sigh* It's always C.

D. Neil Young

I call shenanigans. I live in Alabama; there are no library patrons.

Fredster: I call shenanigans. I live in Alabama; there are no library patrons.

I was confused that hardcore Lynyrd Skynyrd fans knew how to read.

It'd be a shame to ban it--it's one of the few that hasn't already been colored.

Thys ys a vyrytybyl outrage!

Yes, those are our new license plates.

::sigh::

SpinStopper: D. Neil Young

They don't need him around, anyhow.

Oh, the South, if only I knew how to quit you.

I'd just like to point out that they were from Jacksonville, although they never wrote a song about Florida and Ronnie told Billy to "Play it pretty for Atlanta."
I kinda like the Alabama plates but when I think of 'Bama I don't think of the ocean. And I've been to Orange Beach.

Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
She's from birmingham (bam-BA-lam)
Way down in alabam' (bam-BA-lam)
Well' shes shakin' that thing (bam-BA-lam)
Boy she makes me sing (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty
BAM-BA-LAM

Bukharin: Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
She's from birmingham (bam-BA-lam)
Way down in alabam' (bam-BA-lam)
Well' shes shakin' that thing (bam-BA-lam)
Boy she makes me sing (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty
BAM-BA-LAM

BigEd: I'd just like to point out that they were from Jacksonville, although they never wrote a song about Florida and Ronnie told Billy to "Play it pretty for Atlanta."
I kinda like the Alabama plates but when I think of 'Bama I don't think of the ocean. And I've been to Orange Beach.

tim dorsey mentions this in nuclear jellyfish (which i just started reading the other so im really getting.... wait no im not, stop kicking me you bastiches!)

I'm rather surprised that someone took the time and exerted the effort to write a book about Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Well, it could've been worse.

It could've been a Ted Nugent fan.

In Vestavia, no less! Wow, ignorant rednecks even live in affluent suburban towns.

Definition of rock journalism: People who can't write, doing interviews with people who can't think, in order to prepare articles for people who can't read.

/missing FZ since '93

They did a free show in my town like 6 years ago. It was disgusting. I saw one guy had a chick pinned up the a stop sign banging her in front of hundreds of people. At the restaurant I worked at another dude was farking a chick on the south lawn. I don't really care for their music, I just hate the nasty arse fans they lure.
The small town was not ready for the ummm 100,000 people that showed up.

I are a lybrary patron and I take o-fence to thys thread.

Seriously, I live in Alabama the Beautiful, and I love it here. We've got issues, but they're our issues. Go take care of your own. I've lived on two different continents and in 4 different states, traveled across our great country a couple of times; I love it here, I really do. I'm not gonna change anyone's mind about how they feel about the South. If you truly experience it, I wouldn't have to change your mind, you'd appreciate it as much as I do. Oh yeah...and Skynyrd Rocks!

I just want to say before all of the piling on Alabama crowd gets here:

1. We are not all rednecks
2. We are not all Jesus freaks
3. Most of us have a complete set of teeth
4. We don't have carnal knowledge of family members
5. A great majority of us are educated beyond elementary school, many having college degrees
6. Most of us do not own a rebel flag and in fact there are bigots in all parts of the world
7. I, along with most people I know dislike NASCAR, tractor pulls, deer hunting and cheep beer
8. Sweet Home Alabama is a great song
9. ROLL TIDE!

I fully expect to be rebutted, but that's okay. You are all entitled to your opinions, no matter how wrong and stereotypical they are.

/vaginal sand extraction complete

LeroyBourne:
I saw one guy had a chick pinned up the a stop sign banging her in front of hundreds of people

He had her what now?

You know, when I see these kinds of stories involving a school library, they make me cringe. But I can sometimes *kinda* understand. I almost always won't agree, but I can see your point.

When it comes to a public library though, one would think the obvious solution would be "shut up and don't check it out, or recommend it if you already have."

/originally from Alabama
//Know it's not an isolated Alabama thing
///The fact that it's about Skynyrd is stereotypically painful though
////I like slashies (and DBT)

Came in to say they're from Jacksonville, thanks BigEd.

/not surprised it took 11 posts.

I'm more shocked that libraries still exist, and further shocked that people in rural Alabama actually read!

This author is retarded.

He believes that having a policy in place to deal with book ban requests means that the libraries seriously consider the requests. Not so, the policy is so that these patrons can feel like someone is listening to their request, otherwise the disagreeable patron might get argumentative, might get an idea to cause a scene in the library, or to call the local news and whine "I was offended by a book and the library isn't even listening to my concerns".

Here's what happens to most requests the libraries receive to ban a book: the librarians read the request, have a good laugh (especially for ones like this), and file in it away under a very large "Ban requests with no action taken" folder.

If the patron ever returns to ask how the review is coming, the request gets moved to the "Need Library Board to Review" folder, where, after a few days, the "Library Board" reviews and denies the request, at which point a polite letter is sent to the patron. After that, if the patron decides to push on, only then the library will get ready for battle.

No Such Agency: LeroyBourne:
I saw one guy had a chick pinned up the a stop sign banging her in front of hundreds of people

He had her what now?

Sorry, it's early.
He was farking her up against a stop sign. I was in my car trying to get the hell out of town, and was forced to watch.

aerojockey: This author is retarded.

He believes that having a policy in place to deal with book ban requests means that the libraries seriously consider the requests. Not so, the policy is so that these patrons can feel like someone is listening to their request, otherwise the disagreeable patron might get argumentative, might get an idea to cause a scene in the library, or to call the local news and whine "I was offended by a book and the library isn't even listening to my concerns".

Here's what happens to most requests the libraries receive to ban a book: the librarians read the request, have a good laugh (especially for ones like this), and file in it away under a very large "Ban requests with no action taken" folder.

If the patron ever returns to ask how the review is coming, the request gets moved to the "Need Library Board to Review" folder, where, after a few days, the "Library Board" reviews and denies the request, at which point a polite letter is sent to the patron. After that, if the patron decides to push on, only then the library will get ready for battle.

We usually just put them in the circular file. If they ever come back, they get to fill out the form again. Rinse and repeat.

Krymson Tyde: /vaginal sand extraction complete

I'm thinking not.

Bukharin: Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
She's from birmingham (bam-BA-lam)
Way down in alabam' (bam-BA-lam)
Well' shes shakin' that thing (bam-BA-lam)
Boy she makes me sing (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)
Whoa, black betty
BAM-BA-LAM

Ummm... That's Ram Jam, not Skynyrd

Also, some of the more vindictive librarians make a note not to purge the library records of anyone who submits a ban request, so that if Uncle Sam ever comes by looking to frame the patron as a terrorist, they library will have to turn over their records, including their un-American attempt at censorship.

Krymson Tyde: I just want to say before all of the piling on Alabama crowd gets here:

5. A great majority of us are educated beyond elementary school, many having college degrees

I fully expect to be rebutted, but that's okay. You are all entitled to your opinions, no matter how wrong and stereotypical they are.

/vaginal sand extraction complete

While it is true that a majority of people have more education that grade school level, every single state in the union has that. I'm not sure that I would say "many" people have college degrees though, from this graph it looks like you could ballpark it at around 130,000 people who have bachelor's or higher.

There are more college degrees than that in the city that I live in. Let alone the whole farking state. If you enjoy it, to each his own. I didn't exactly find it a great place to live.

Unfortunately, public libraries get this a lot. And it can turn into big political blowouts in little towns. So, librarians have to handle this crap in diplomatic, bureaucratically consigned ways.

Fortunately I work in academic libraries where you're much less likely to get BS like that. Although we do get our own brand of bullshiat. One place I worked, a faculty person wanted to buy a pro-Islamic textbook which was aimed at high schoolers. The librarian in charge of that area said no, since it wasn't appropriate to the university level. This professor then went on to identify an anti-Muslim terrorist book in our collection and complain about that. The book wasn't removed from the collection.

At my current job we have a shared purchasing plan with other libraries. Some Conservative Outrage (TM) book by a Swiftboat guy came in, and a hyper-liberal staffperson was upset about the idea of having it in our collection. Her argument was that owning the book would proclaim that we followed the book's philosophy. Fortunately a couple of librarians (both liberal) were on hand to say that it should follow our collection development policy -- if other libraries in the area have it, send the book back; if nobody has it, we'll keep it. It's not our job to make the collection conform with our politics.

\A library owning Mao's Little Red Book and Hitler's Mein Kampf doesn't immediately become a haven of Communist Nazism.
\\libs libs libs!

BigEd: ... Ronnie told Billy to "Play it pretty for Atlanta."


The live recording of Free Bird was taped in Atlanta, so it kinda makes since. The version that tours as Lynyrd Skynyrd today will say 'play it pretty for (where ever they are)'.

Always thought the Sweet Home Alabama was an answer to Neil Youngs song, Southern Man.

BigEd: I'd just like to point out that they were from Jacksonville, although they never wrote a song about Florida and Ronnie told Billy to "Play it pretty for Atlanta."
I kinda like the Alabama plates but when I think of 'Bama I don't think of the ocean. And I've been to Orange Beach.

Thank you for the Pic, I'm sending it on to my Mom. They were one of the 2-3 good things to come out of Jax (Allman Bros & Clark's Fish Camp). Allen was a family friend and I always laugh when people argue that they were a 'Bama band. I actually met someone a few years ago who bragged that he saw Skynrd play in 2003 with "all the original members" Ha! St. John's Swamp Rats represent!

Give him three steps, give him three steps mister, give him three steps toward the door.

Fredster: I call shenanigans. I live in Alabama; there are no library patrons.

Looks like we got ourselves a reader!

/Whatcha' readin' for?

zpb52: Yes, those are our new license plates.

It looks like the skies are orange in Alabama, not blue. Is the song wrong?

maybe someone in here has a jpeg of the 'play some skynyrd' guy from beavis and butthead.

post plz.

and for public record....skynyrd on gun control:

Hand guns are made for killin
Aint no good for nothin else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why dont we dump em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

Southern Man don't need books here anyhow.

I have no problem with Bama the state. Lynyrd Skynyrd, however, can kiss my ass.

Allman Brothers wannabes.

That is all.

Well, really, who would believe a song called "Sweet Home Florida"?
"In Boca Raton we got retirees,
Shuffleboard, then dinner at 2"

Anything north and or west of Orlando is fairly comparable to Alabama anyway.

This guy just made himself sound like a idiot. But at least he came to the right conclusion- it is the smartest thing not to remove books at all. But that's not reality. There's always some jackass out there who thinks it's his or her duty to protect society from the evils in books.

Think of the children! Damn librarians obviously don't.

The Vestavia library sucks anyway.

/from Vestavia
//recent MLIS grad
///Duke sucks

Krymson Tyde: I just want to say before all of the piling on Alabama crowd gets here:

1. We are not all rednecks
2. We are not all Jesus freaks
3. Most of us have a complete set of teeth
4. We don't have carnal knowledge of family members
5. A great majority of us are educated beyond elementary school, many having college degrees
6. Most of us do not own a rebel flag and in fact there are bigots in all parts of the world
7. I, along with most people I know dislike NASCAR, tractor pulls, deer hunting and cheep beer
8. Sweet Home Alabama is a great song
9. ROLL TIDE!

I fully expect to be rebutted, but that's okay. You are all entitled to your opinions, no matter how wrong and stereotypical they are.

/vaginal sand extraction complete

Liar. You can't be from Alabama, you're using the internet.
Everyone knows computers were outlawed in Alabama.

dj maskell: I'm more shocked that libraries still exist, and further shocked that people in rural Alabama actually read!

Vestavia Hills isn't rural. It is a suburban city in the largest metro area in the state and is one of the most affluent areas in the state, with a school system nationally recognized for it's quality.

stevetherobot: Vestavia Hills isn't rural. It is a suburban city in the largest metro area in the state and is one of the most affluent areas in the state, with a school system nationally recognized for it's quality.

How you typed that with a straight face is beyond me.

"one of the most affluent areas in the state" is like saying "The toilet is filthy, but at least the lid is clean".

/ It's still a f*cking toilet.