This is bad news. For Obama.

This is bad....for yo mamma

Funny how we send in a farkload of troops, then initiate peace talks.

A western official who attended the talks said: "For the first time in two years since I was promised an ambassadorship for bundling two hundred grand in campaign contributions I'm optimistic about Afghanistan"

Adjusted to reflect eternal realities, in light of TFA not providing anybody with real juice who's willing to go on the record.

And the War On Some Drugs continues. Long as we're spending money on foreign aid we do more good simply buying up the opium and putting it to legitimate use as a painkiller for those parts of the world that could use it in their health-care operations.

HartRend: Funny how we send in a farkload of troops, then initiate peace talks.

Worked in Japan and Germany.

Either accept our carpet of gold, or we'll bury you with a carpet of bombs.

But the important question is: did we meet with them without preconditions?

Gulper Eel: Long as we're spending money on foreign aid we do more good simply buying up the opium and putting it to legitimate use as a painkiller for those parts of the world that could use it in their health-care operations.

*blows whistle*
Okay, YOU! Outta the thread. You're making too much sense.

They don't call it the Graveyard of Empires for nothing. There is nothing to win in Afghanistan. Nothing. There's nothing there except people who have lived their way of life for a thousand farking years, and they don't give a shiat about anyone negotiating peace with anyone else. The only thing that matters is either the old guy in the corner proclaiming what the new rules are, or the young guy in the compound down the road with all the heavy firepower.

17,000 or 170,000, there's no winning in Afghanistan.

/loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

pudding7: 17,000 or 170,000, there's no winning in Afghanistan.

I find invading a country and then abandoning it afterward disgusting.

Talkin' to Iran?

That's it. We've lost the War on Terra.

pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

pudding7: They don't call it the Graveyard of Empires for nothing. There is nothing to win in Afghanistan. Nothing. There's nothing there except people who have lived their way of life for a thousand farking years, and they don't give a shiat about anyone negotiating peace with anyone else. The only thing that matters is either the old guy in the corner proclaiming what the new rules are, or the young guy in the compound down the road with all the heavy firepower.

17,000 or 170,000, there's no winning in Afghanistan.

/loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

It's land. They don't make it anymore.

bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

I'm sure the US Americans will figure it out and such.

Gulper Eel: A western official who attended the talks said: "For the first time in two years since I was promised an ambassadorship for bundling two hundred grand in campaign contributions I'm optimistic about Afghanistan"

Adjusted to reflect eternal realities, in light of TFA not providing anybody with real juice who's willing to go on the record.

And the War On Some Drugs continues. Long as we're spending money on foreign aid we do more good simply buying up the opium and putting it to legitimate use as a painkiller for those parts of the world that could use it in their health-care operations.

Afghanistant : Dope, rocks, and crazy people who love living around nothing but dope and rocks. Oh, some nifty carpets.

I wonder if this guy is optimistic because he's got money riding on how many more Canadian troops will get blown up.

Tenebreux: pudding7: 17,000 or 170,000, there's no winning in Afghanistan.

/loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

It's land. They don't make it anymore.

*cough* volcanos *cough*

bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

More importantly, the people of Afghanistan disagree with him.

Time to bury the hatchet.

Bad_Seed: bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

3,000 victims of an attack whose perpetrators used a failed state as a refuge and base of operations?

Red Shirt Blues: Time to bury the hatchet.

That dude looks like he's about to bury it in someone's forehead.

Koichi: Bad_Seed: bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

3,000 victims of an attack whose perpetrators used a failed state as a refuge and base of operations?

They don't care. They're dead.

Bad_Seed: Koichi: Bad_Seed: bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

3,000 victims of an attack whose perpetrators used a failed state as a refuge and base of operations?

They don't care. They're dead.

How clever of you. I'll bet their families care, as do potential victims of another attack.

Zagloba: Red Shirt Blues: Time to bury the hatchet.

That dude looks like he's about to bury it in someone's forehead.

From the page tfa is on.

Bad_Seed:

*looks at profile*

Never mind, welcome to ignore. You're in good company.

Koichi: Bad_Seed: Koichi: Bad_Seed: bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

3,000 victims of an attack whose perpetrators used a failed state as a refuge and base of operations?

They don't care. They're dead.

How clever of you. I'll bet their families care, as do potential victims of another attack.

How clever of you to prop up dead people to suit your own agenda.

Gulper Eel: And the War On Some Drugs continues. Long as we're spending money on foreign aid we do more good simply buying up the opium and putting it to legitimate use as a painkiller for those parts of the world that could use it in their health-care operations.

That would be sensible, but the existing opium suppliers won't let their prices be undercut by Afghan competition. Protectionism FTL.

soy_bomb: HartRend: Funny how we send in a farkload of troops, then initiate peace talks.

Worked in Japan and Germany.

"peace talks" != "unconditional surrender"

It was Saudis who attacked us.

HartRend: Funny how we send in a farkload of troops, then initiate peace talks.

Look, as nice as a fair game is, when you're worried about starting world war 3 over a pile of rocks, you stack the deck like a mutherfarker. Dealing from a position of demonstrated ability to blow most of the country up is not necessarily a bad idea.

I wonder if Obama will be in N Korea with the Iranians when they test their missile.

GaryPDX: I wonder if Obama will be in N Korea with the Iranians when they test their missile.

I wonder if you'll ever put together a cohesive thought.
Hint: the answer to both our questions is the same. Two letter word, starts with n. Is not "ni!".

/fed the troll, sorry. Boredom.

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: GaryPDX: I wonder if Obama will be in N Korea with the Iranians when they test their missile.

I wonder if you'll ever put together a cohesive thought.
Hint: the answer to both our questions is the same. Two letter word, starts with n. Is not "ni!".

/fed the troll, sorry. Boredom.

I like how Liberals only focus on the "trees" and pay absolutely no attention to the "forest". Metaphorically speaking.

But, but... SEKRIT MUSLIN!

I'm pretty optimistic myself. Have you seen U.S. media lately? Swoosh! Nothing but fail.

General Petraus is telling the enemies our plans live on T.V.!

j/k there is no plan, we will further discuss this right after a a word from our sponsors.

***cue energy company commercial that doesn't even pitch a product***

GaryPDX: The Dreaded Rear Admiral: GaryPDX: I wonder if Obama will be in N Korea with the Iranians when they test their missile.

I wonder if you'll ever put together a cohesive thought.
Hint: the answer to both our questions is the same. Two letter word, starts with n. Is not "ni!".

/fed the troll, sorry. Boredom.

I like how Liberals only focus on the "trees" and pay absolutely no attention to the "forest". Metaphorically speaking.


Try harder.

Koichi: Bad_Seed: Koichi: Bad_Seed: bartink: pudding7: /loves me some Obama, but Afghanistan is pointless.

I've heard there are at least 3,000 people that disagree with you.

Who are they?

3,000 victims of an attack whose perpetrators used a failed state as a refuge and base of operations?

They don't care. They're dead.

How clever of you. I'll bet their families care, as do potential victims of another attack.


I am a potential victim of another attack; So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

We are in Afghanistan partly and mostly b/c Iran. We have them surrounded and they know it.

Thank you President Cheney and his loyal assistant George W.






The Dems will screw it up.

Phil Herup: We are in Afghanistan partly and mostly b/c Iran. We have them surrounded and they know it.

Thank you President Cheney and his loyal assistant George W.


The Dems will screw it up.

I wonder why Iran thinks nuclear weapons are a good idea?

jcooli09: I wonder why Iran thinks nuclear weapons are a good idea?


Not because of US.

Phil Herup: jcooli09: I wonder why Iran thinks nuclear weapons are a good idea?


Not because of US.

Really? Why then?

We can do it. We're Americans.

Hard to post that knowing full well the cavalcade of cynism that is like to follow.

jcooli09: Phil Herup: jcooli09: I wonder why Iran thinks nuclear weapons are a good idea?


Not because of US.

Really? Why then?


Because they are are at odds with other counties in the region. Israel for one. Iraq was their enemy, not any more, unless they provoke.

I should have said not JUST because of US.

These folks are not to be taken lightly. It is too bad, b/c the Iranian people are good people. Their leadership is the problem.

FTFA: "Obama has opened the door for talks with so-called 'moderate Taliban'."

Ummm...yeah...good luck with that.

Phil Herup:
Because they are are at odds with other counties in the region. Israel for one. Iraq was their enemy, not any more, unless they provoke.

I should have said not JUST because of US.

These folks are not to be taken lightly. It is too bad, b/c the Iranian people are good people. Their leadership is the problem.

I guess you have a point, although Isreal is the only other nuclear player in the region.

Still, a superpower invading a neighbor without provocation isn't likely to make one feel secure, is it? Especially a superpower who has had no diplomatic relations with you for 30 years.

Don't get me wrong, I don't support Iran getting the bomb. I'm just saying if I were in that position, I would be doing the development and lying through my teeth about it to the rest of the world.

Phil Herup: Because they are are at odds with other counties in the region. Israel for one.

Their odds with Israel are largely rhetorical; they're pretty much the only nation in the region that's never actually gone to war with Israel.

It's a means of pandering to the religious fundies; they have no intention of actually risking their own wellbeing to fight Israel.

GaryPDX:

I like how Liberals only focus on the "trees" and pay absolutely no attention to the "forest". Metaphorically speaking.

When was the last time you said something useful?

Has it been a year, now? Maybe two? I seem to vaguely remember some semblance of thought in your posts at some point.

jcooli09: I'm just saying if I were in that position, I would be doing the development and lying through my teeth about it to the rest of the world.


Well, just like Saddam did with his "WMDs" they like to flex their pseudo-muscle. Why do you think Saddam was no hesitant to delay inspection by Hans Blix? He did not want to appear weak to his neighbor.

He actually liked the idea that the whole world thought he was dangerous. He was a sociopath. So is the Iranian leadership.


Everyone knows you are supposed to develop WMDs is a secret underground lair until they are ready.

Phil Herup: We are in Afghanistan partly and mostly b/c Iran. We have them surrounded and they know it.

Thank you President Cheney and his loyal assistant George W.

The Dems will screw it up.

Other than Oman, which country on that map with a US flag is actually a stable US ally?

Answer none. Iran has two major pain points in the 1990s, the taliban and saddam. Now that he's gone I'm surprised that Iran hasn't sent a big thank you card to Bush.

What was the name of the iranian plant who fed all the BS to Bush to push for the iraqi invasion? Snowball? Something...

Phil Herup:
Well, just like Saddam did with his "WMDs" they like to flex their pseudo-muscle. Why do you think Saddam was no hesitant to delay inspection by Hans Blix? He did not want to appear weak to his neighbor.

He actually liked the idea that the whole world thought he was dangerous. He was a sociopath. So is the Iranian leadership.


Everyone knows you are supposed to develop WMDs is a secret underground lair until they are ready.

Who cares about Saddam and his non-existent WMD's? They are irrelevant now, except as an object lesson that the US could possibly invade an unfriendly nation on the basis of bad intelligence.