Man, he didn't even have to raise his voice. Even the PM was riveted. Very smooth.

Is there a British equivalent of "Oh Snap" guy?

What, was he excessively blunt to thin-skinned insecure Frenchmen?

"You have run out of *our* money."

AWESOME.

Did he say that Britain's deficit is already 10% of GDP?

Anyone want to buy an island, furnished?

Occam's Chainsaw: Anyone want to buy an island, furnished?

The island I could afford - fixing the local population's dental problems would bankrupt me.

He didn't use a teleprompter so the rant doesn't count.

zeph`: The island I could afford - fixing the local population's dental problems would bankrupt me.

AH HA! DENTAL! HA HAAAA! PROBLEMS!

It's the originality that keeps me coming back here.

Glasgowsfinest: AH HA! DENTAL! HA HAAAA! PROBLEMS!

It's the originality that keeps me coming back here.

I thought it was the actually edible food.

Occam's Chainsaw: I thought it was the actually edible food.

On a website?

/Your technology, it is indistinguishable from magic.

Glasgowsfinest: /Your technology, it is indistinguishable from magic.

Arthur C. Clarke wins again.

It's amazing how few people understand how quantitative easing works. When interest rates hit a floor, it's your only option. Let's do nothing and see what happens, that'll be fun.

This guy is making the rounds of the American conservative circuit and being praised as a hero. Way to go, jackass. You've won the Limbaugh/Hannity demographic. What exactly is your plan? Oh, you have none? Go cry Emo Kid.

NewportBarGuy: Go cry Emo Kid.

FTW.

Wow, I though he was talking to Bush.

RON PAUL

NewportBarGuy: This guy is making the rounds of the American conservative circuit and being praised as a hero. Way to go, jackass. You've won the Limbaugh/Hannity demographic. What exactly is your plan? Oh, you have none? Go cry Emo Kid.

While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

talk about being savaged by a dead sheep

I think you mean rip Obama's lack of policy apart.

I understood less than half of what he was saying, but I admired how he said it.

And I vote!

anfrind: While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

Have we stooped that low? Because someone has command of the English language we discount the veracity of his words? He's a farking nutjob. He's raving and ranting and offers no solution of his own. It's incredibly easy to piss all over a proposal to fix something. Call me when he has his own proposal. He has none. He's a whiny biatch.

anfrind: While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

Agreed. I highly doubt the gentleman will ever be caught on camera shouting, "HE WAS AN APPEASER!!!"

NewportBarGuy: anfrind: While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

Have we stooped that low? Because someone has command of the English language we discount the veracity of his words? He's a farking nutjob. He's raving and ranting and offers no solution of his own. It's incredibly easy to piss all over a proposal to fix something. Call me when he has his own proposal. He has none. He's a whiny biatch.

A British accent makes anyone sound reasonable.

That was awesome.

He talks like a fag, and his shiat's all retarded.

/got nuthin'

haha the UK is an awful country

you guys get to choose between a centre right party and a right wing party next election

(i'm aware this applies to america too)

Curious... What is the US deficit as a percentage of GDP? I get the feeling that it's more than 10%.

Inescapable Future of Humanity: Curious... What is the US deficit as a percentage of GDP? I get the feeling that it's more than 10%.

A quick google search is saying something between 9 and 13 percent.

this link seems reliable, says 12%

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we fondly refer to as "Weaponized Honesty".

The world needs more of it.

Go forth and do so.

HeWhoHasNoName: Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we fondly refer to as "Weaponized Honesty".

The world needs more of it.

Go forth and do so.

Yes, what we need is more pontificating assholes. Bravo-O!

That will solve everything! Brilliant!

zephyy: you guys get to choose between a centre right party and a right wing party next election

Yeah, but the difference is that our right wing party is largely just right wing from a financial point of view, without having any of the "morality"/religious/anti-science/hatemongering baggage that the Republicans can't seem to shift. On many levels the Conservative party is far more left wing than the Republicans would be willing to tolerate. Would you get a Republican leader saying "I stood up and said that marriage was important, and as far as I was concerned it didn't matter whether it was between a man and a woman, a man and a man or a woman and a woman"?

While I'm all in favour of solutions as opposed to just moaning, when being faced with a PM who's massively unpopular and bears a moderate amount of responsibility for the hole we're in but isn't accepting responsibility for it, sometimes you've got to have a rant...

I love how all the Obama fans come out and complain about a politician that only spouts rhetoric. priceless.

alumyna: I love how all the Obama fans come out and complain about a politician that only spouts rhetoric. priceless.

1/10

alumyna: I love how all the Obama fans come out and complain about a politician that only spouts rhetoric. priceless.

That would be ironic.

alumyna: I love how all the Obama fans come out and complain about a politician that only spouts rhetoric. priceless.

Wait, you mean the detailed budget they have? That is "rhetoric"? Just shoot yourself and save us a bullet.

/oblig, but totally apt in this case.
//he said "engorged"...heheh...

anfrind: NewportBarGuy: This guy is making the rounds of the American conservative circuit and being praised as a hero. Way to go, jackass. You've won the Limbaugh/Hannity demographic. What exactly is your plan? Oh, you have none? Go cry Emo Kid.

While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

It would be..VERY interesting. Mano y mano. No TOTUS (Teleprompter)OTUS allowed!

Daniel Hannan's opening statement in which Obama gets SERVED, as well as TOLD.
Obama: Uhhh ..Ummm (cough)....crickets.

The debate, she is over senor.

/change





THE KENYAN IDIOCRACY EXPERIMENT

I listened to him on Hannity yesterday (yea, we are listening to you and stockpiling 762x39, be afraid) I guess I'm just not that in to foreigners attacking our government, or devisionists using their foreign sources to attack my country. Grow up or move out, I bet you could find a loyalty to the English...thrown.

Royal Vodak: anfrind: NewportBarGuy: This guy is making the rounds of the American conservative circuit and being praised as a hero. Way to go, jackass. You've won the Limbaugh/Hannity demographic. What exactly is your plan? Oh, you have none? Go cry Emo Kid.

While I may not often agree with conservative politics, you do have to admit that the guy is a lot more eloquent than any mainstream conservative in America today. I wouldn't mind seeing him debate fiscal policy with Obama. It could be very interesting.

It would be..VERY interesting. Mano y mano. No TOTUS (Teleprompter)OTUS allowed!

Daniel Hannan's opening statement in which Obama gets SERVED, as well as TOLD.
Obama: Uhhh ..Ummm (cough)....crickets.

The debate, she is over senor.

/change

THE KENYAN IDIOCRACY EXPERIMENT

Are you a member of a political party? If so, which one?

Royal Vodak: The debate, she is over senor.

You are a child of history to think thusly. Watch and benefit from the turnaround, yet biatch and moan at every step of the way. Go on, I know you can.

"People who annoy you."

N_GGER

zephyy: you guys get to choose between a centre right party and a right wing party next election

(i'm aware this applies to america too)

Actually, we get to choose between a center-right party and a moving-right-of-center-at-a-sizable-fraction-of-c party.

AndyMan1: Inescapable Future of Humanity: Curious... What is the US deficit as a percentage of GDP? I get the feeling that it's more than 10%.

A quick google search is saying something between 9 and 13 percent.

this link seems reliable, says 12%

Thanks. I did some googling, but kept getting crappy "ZOMG THE DEBT IS HUGE" links. My google-fu is weak. CSM is fairly trustworthy, so I'll rely on them for this one.

It sort of makes the speaker seem as if he's being combative for the sake of being combative, when you look at it in this light. At the very least, he's being more opinionated than fact-based. He offers no solutions, but instead says that the UK is the worst off and cites 10% of GDP deficit, and then references to the US who is so much better because of.. Clinton's taxes?

In reality, He never clarified, just said that we used our prosperity to "patch the holes on our ship" or some such, which isn't true for the most part. Clinton gave us a surplus instead of deficit, but our deficit as % of GDP is still about the same as the UK.

....he forgot to add that We must pledge once more to walk into the future and We are the change we've been looking for. Change can't happen without you. "Change" versus "More of the Same". That's change we can believe in. "Yes We Can."

Dialectic: ....he forgot to add that We must pledge once more to walk into the future and We are the change we've been looking for. Change can't happen without you. "Change" versus "More of the Same". That's change we can believe in. "Yes We Can."

How's that working out for you? Being clever.

Democrat or Republican, I think I would side with either before going with Russian propaganda or British obstructionists.
The conservative movement is falling apart.

NewportBarGuy: Dialectic: ....he forgot to add that We must pledge once more to walk into the future and We are the change we've been looking for. Change can't happen without you. "Change" versus "More of the Same". That's change we can believe in. "Yes We Can."

How's that working out for you? Being clever.

Tyler Durdan?

Inescapable Future of Humanity:
He offers no solutions, but instead says that the UK is the worst off and cites 10% of GDP deficit, and then references to the US who is so much better because of.. Clinton's taxes?

He didn't reference the US.

In reality, He never clarified, just said that we used our prosperity to "patch the holes on our ship" or some such, which isn't true for the most part. Clinton gave us a surplus instead of deficit, but our deficit as % of GDP is still about the same as the UK.

He didn't say the US had done that, just that others in the G20 had.


/I bet you think this post is about you

CynicalLA: Tyler Durdan?

No, Mickey Mouse.

NewportBarGuy: CynicalLA: Tyler Durdan?

No, Mickey Mouse.

He's a racist.

He is British with a British accent. He gets 'smart' points for that. Everyone knows that having an English accent means you are smart.

I can't stand Brown, but Hannan is a complete toilet-head. Everything Brown has done wrong once, Hannan would have done wrong twice - a few writers have put his comments in context and they are worth reading before forming an opinion (unless you are some idiot dittohead) - check out Hannan on Iceland for a particularly fun angle.

I like much of Europe, but being a British Euro MP is really a bit of a fraud - very few of the electorate have even the slightest clue what policies they have voted for (if they vote, which they tend not to do) or what their Euro MP is / is not doing. The position of a British Euro MP, particularly a Tory one, is really just a non-democratic post filled by friends of the party who want to play at being politicians but aren't suitable candidates to be real politicians

That guy talks like a fag.