Yeah, they would never do anything offensive like that.


/the one on the right says "the smaller, the harder (it is)"

Melanie Phillips, quoted by a blogger, whose counter to the proven unreliability of Palestinian "eyewitnesses" is "A Paratroopers Brigade soldier who also participated in the war" and the lack of charges of Israeli soldiers by Israel.

Wow. Damning.

FarkinNortherner: Melanie Phillips, quoted by a blogger, whose counter to the proven unreliability of Palestinian "eyewitnesses" is "A Paratroopers Brigade soldier who also participated in the war" and the lack of charges of Israeli soldiers by Israel.

Wow. Damning.

Reading blogs is like swimming in an ocean of shiat looking for diamonds.

Mark Twain said: "If you don't read the paper you're uninformed, if you do read the paper you're misinformed."

Even in the 21st century this holds true.

Walker: Yeah, they would never do anything offensive like that.

There is a bit of difference between wearing an offensive T-shirt and killing unarmed civilians. Just because someone does one doesn't mean they do the other.

The Guardian is carrying out a blatant and systematic campaign of demonization against Israel that goes well beyond journalistic norms.

The hell you say.

I for one trust everything I hear from Hamas.

soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-

from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."

and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."

ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

I_C_Weener: I for one trust everything I hear from Hamas.

Singling out Hamas as untrustworthy is like fishing a turd out of a full bowl and announcing it to be poop.

Well who the hell else are they going to shot at, and why would it change now after years and years anyway?

Do you think the author realizes that what he wrote might convince more people that some dubious may actually happened as opposed to answering critics?

I loved this line:

It is important to note that none of the testimony was about what the soldiers did themselves, but rather of what they heard or saw other soldiers do.

I am guessing if you committed war crimes you aren't running to the papers to talk about it. Where as if you witnessed war crimes you might both be willing to talk about it and be able to provide an accurate picture of what happened.

Yeah, that seems like an unbiased source to say that Israel didn't commit any war crimes.

b2theory: Do you think the author realizes that what he wrote might convince more people that some dubious may actually happened as opposed to answering critics?

I loved this line:

It is important to note that none of the testimony was about what the soldiers did themselves, but rather of what they heard or saw other soldiers do.

I am guessing if you committed war crimes you aren't running to the papers to talk about it. Where as if you witnessed war crimes you might both be willing to talk about it and be able to provide an accurate picture of what happened.

Deny, deny, deny. Keep your 'side' in the press, and rely on the press trying not to appear judgemental (and thus presenting your view with equal weight). Keep it up until the press moves on. This isn't new.

Chindit: soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-

from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."

and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."

ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

"kill em all let God sort them out." Predates Vietnam by a few centuries.

Chindit: soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-

from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."

and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."

ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

Dude, the shirts promote killing pregnant women. With a rifle. That's just sick; they don't get a pass on that.

GAT_00: Yeah, that seems like an unbiased source to say that Israel didn't commit any war crimes.

The Our Mission page is even better:

It was Yom Kippur, 2000. The Intifada had just broken out and a huge wave of terror had suddenly descended upon Israel. The media in Europe was twisting the story to brand Israel as a bad guy! Jews in the UK were in shock and felt under attack. A few idealists decided enough was enough.

With a name like HonestReporting I'm satisfied that it's time to stop asking questions.

b2theory: I loved this line:

It is important to note that none of the testimony was about what the soldiers did themselves, but rather of what they heard or saw other soldiers do.

I am guessing if you committed war crimes you aren't running to the papers to talk about it. Where as if you witnessed war crimes you might both be willing to talk about it and be able to provide an accurate picture of what happened.

I saw the pope ride through Grand Forks last week. Hey, I'm a Catholic, why don't you believe me?

HulkHands: "kill em all let God sort them out." Predates Vietnam by a few centuries.

Yea, but they were the first ones to put it on a shirt.

vartian:

Dude, the shirts promote killing pregnant women. With a rifle. That's just sick; they don't get a pass on that.


I agree. Pregnant women should be killed with a spoon!

Chindit: soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-

from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."

and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."

ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

This. Get a life. It's not news. It's not illegal. First, complain about how Hamas blows children up on buses, then complain about some stupid t-shirts.

Crosshair: b2theory: I loved this line:

It is important to note that none of the testimony was about what the soldiers did themselves, but rather of what they heard or saw other soldiers do.

I am guessing if you committed war crimes you aren't running to the papers to talk about it. Where as if you witnessed war crimes you might both be willing to talk about it and be able to provide an accurate picture of what happened.

I saw the pope ride through Grand Forks last week. Hey, I'm a Catholic, why don't you believe me?

That's a fine straw-man the Lou...

Then why should I ever believe anything anyone says ever? They might be lying, of course. The more people that come forward increases the probability that they are telling the truth.

crimsin23: First, complain about how Hamas blows children up on buses, then complain about some stupid t-shirts.

Ah, it's the old 'terrorists do worse, so lay off already' defense. Haven't seen it yet in this particular thread.

♪♫♪ I shot the Sharif,
But I did not shoot the Zahafi... ♪♫♪

NPR reported on this earlier today, including reports from Israeli soldiers who were outraged at the actions of their own military

NPR doesn't get it wrong all that often, and I often side with Israel on issues related to terrorism, but I think there's a lot of shiat going on.

vartian: Chindit: soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-
from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."
and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."
ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

Dude, the shirts promote killing pregnant women. With a rifle. That's just sick; they don't get a pass on that.

Maybe the "baby bump" is a 20 pound block of C-4...and I'm sorry, but if I were an IDF soldier and saw an 8-year-old with an AK-47, you'd better believe I'd put his head in my crosshairs.

Hamas blows up buses and pizza shops with suicide bombers, but the outrage comes over a few T-shirts? Amazing.

That site is worse than NewsMax.

Ranger Joe: Hamas blows up buses and pizza shops with suicide bombers, but the outrage comes over a few T-shirts? Amazing.

There it is again!

hillbillypharmacist: crimsin23: First, complain about how Hamas blows children up on buses, then complain about some stupid t-shirts.

Ah, it's the old 'terrorists do worse, so lay off already' defense. Haven't seen it yet in this particular thread.

No, it's the old 'this is not news' defense.

hillbillypharmacist: Ranger Joe: Hamas blows up buses and pizza shops with suicide bombers, but the outrage comes over a few T-shirts? Amazing.

There it is again!

Truth hurts, eh?

Ranger Joe: vartian: Chindit: soldiers in a war zone wear offensive shirts.

personal favorites-
from Viet Nam, "kill em all let God sort them out."
and from Iraq I, " marine sniper, if you run you just die tired."
ya buncha pansies, stop looking for ways to be offended.

Dude, the shirts promote killing pregnant women. With a rifle. That's just sick; they don't get a pass on that.

Maybe the "baby bump" is a 20 pound block of C-4...and I'm sorry, but if I were an IDF soldier and saw an 8-year-old with an AK-47, you'd better believe I'd put his head in my crosshairs.

Hamas blows up buses and pizza shops with suicide bombers, but the outrage comes over a few T-shirts? Amazing.

You people simply amaze me.

The t-shirt is not about fake mothers smuggling explosives. It is not about an 8 year old with a machine gun. It is about killing an innocent mother and her unborn child. Normal people will be disgusted by this.

Normal people are even more disgusted when a suicide bomber kills a dozen innocent people in a cafe. It doesn't have to be one or the other, you farking nutjobs.

Chindit: soldiers in a war zone

Who is Israel at 'war' with? Which national entity?

vartian: You people simply amaze me.

The t-shirt is not about fake mothers smuggling explosives. It is not about an 8 year old with a machine gun. It is about killing an innocent mother and her unborn child. Normal people will be disgusted by this.

Normal people are even more disgusted when a suicide bomber kills a dozen innocent people in a cafe. It doesn't have to be one or the other, you farking nutjobs.

The Israeli army apologized for the t-shirts already, even though they did not sanction them nor pay for them. So get the fark on with your life, this is not news.

Bored Horde: Chindit: soldiers in a war zone

Who is Israel at 'war' with? Which national entity?

Hamas, Hezbollah, and any other state or group that calls for its destruction.

hillbillypharmacist: Ranger Joe: Hamas blows up buses and pizza shops with suicide bombers, but the outrage comes over a few T-shirts? Amazing.

There it is again!

And it was almost the same wording! It's like they heard it from the same source. . .

crimsin23: Hamas, Hezbollah, and any other state or group that calls for its destruction.

Is Hamas a state actor?

Bored Horde: crimsin23: Hamas, Hezbollah, and any other state or group that calls for its destruction.

Is Hamas a state actor?

Yes, they were voted to govern Gaza a few years back. Maybe you missed the memo.

crimsin23: Yes, they were voted to govern Gaza a few years back. Maybe you missed the memo.

Then why isn't Israel following the Geneva Convention with their Hamas prisoners?

This Is Bold Text: NPR reported on this earlier today, including reports from Israeli soldiers who were outraged at the actions of their own military

NPR doesn't get it wrong all that often, and I often side with Israel on issues related to terrorism, but I think there's a lot of shiat going on.

This.

I'm sure there is shiat happening on both sides that would warrant both parties being nuked out of existence for everyone's betterment.

Beatle_Matt: I'm sure there is shiat happening on both sides that would warrant both parties being nuked out of existence for everyone's betterment.

Hey now, let's not throw out the bathwater with the baby.

clancifer: Truth hurts, eh?

It is indeed the truth that some people refuse to hold Israel to a reasonable standard because terrorists are even worse.

And yes, that does hurt. It hurts me like every other unreasonably idiotic thing hurts me.

How do you spell WHARRGARBLE in Hebrew and Arabic?

dillenger69: How do you spell WHARRGARBLE in Hebrew and Arabic?

There is no translation. That's a real word in those languages.

I've got a good feeling about this. I really think this is going to be the Fark thread that finally resolves the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

FTA:A Paratroopers Brigade soldier who also participated in the war called the claims "nonsense". Speaking on condition of anonymity, he said, "It is true that in war morality can be interpreted in many different ways, and there are always a few idiots who act inappropriately, but most of the soldiers represented Israel honorably and with a high degree of morality.

So what he was really saying is that some of Israel's soldiers did not conduct themselves honorably and with a high degree of morality.

So what the article contends is that the allegations of wrongdoing are false because it's hearsay and to support the argument, hearsay is provided... I see.

Well, the site's called "Honest Reporting". That's a name that sounds like you can trust them.

About us:

It was Yom Kippur, 2000. The Intifada had just broken out and a huge wave of terror had suddenly descended upon Israel. The media in Europe was twisting the story to brand Israel as a bad guy! Jews in the UK were in shock and felt under attack. A few idealists decided enough was enough.

The whole site's purpose is to sway public opinion in favor of Israel, but I guess they're at least honest about their purpose and lack of objectivity.

This Is Bold Text: NPR reported on this earlier today, including reports from Israeli soldiers who were outraged at the actions of their own military

NPR doesn't get it wrong all that often, and I often side with Israel on issues related to terrorism, but I think there's a lot of shiat going on.

I heard that report this morning. Morning Edition's transcript is not up yet (new window), but it should be soon at that link.

I hate calling people out, but I think I might be seriously impressed by tats spin efforts when this goes green.

Well, I came back to correct myself, it was Gulf I, not Iraq I where the sniper shirt appeared; my apologies to Marine Snipers, semper fi.

I first saw the "kill 'em all' shirt on 3rd ACR men who were cycling back from S Viet Nam into Ft Bliss Tx, when I was stationed there. They get the credit.I was a soldier and I knew better than to wear one, I still understand why men do things like that.

We were not "at war" in Viet Nam, Korea or even Kosevo. I stand by my use of the term "war zone", as defined by ME as anywhere you are liable to get shot by someone that doesn't like you and where you can shoot back. I believe most of Isreal's border qualifies.

Please stop whining, men like this have to guard the gates. You don't like them, don't invite them to your next poetry reading or poli-sci lecture. They'll understand.

GAT_00: Yeah, that seems like an unbiased source to say that Israel didn't commit any war crimes.

This.
I took a look through "Honest Reporting"'s archives, and every article is dedicated to defending the IDF's moral purity.
Honest reporting my ass.

Where's Fark's Angry Jew™ ?