well, if it's insatiable, stop basing your plans on satiating it. that's called being set up to fail.

How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

/Pot represents... what? Almost 3/4 of the income of the drug cartels?

If the prohibition against alcohol had gone on long enough, we would have seen something much like the current "war on drugs" and the collateral crap going on in neighboring countries.

Just legalize the least harmful (and incidentally most plentiful) stuff, tax it, and be done with it.

Oh, we'd probably have to annex Mexico in the process ;)

Senescent Dawn: How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

It's more like targeting the symptom while ignoring the disease. Remember how focused she was on the whole US health care system. Much of their methods for keeping the cash cow alive but still sick must have rubbed off ;)

Build additional walls, close the border and place patrols alongside the entire damn thing. Let them do their civil war thing, fark themselves over and get it done with. Re-open when the mess is cleared and they get their country straight. I don't need a churro that bad.

that1guy77: Build additional walls, close the border and place patrols alongside the entire damn thing. Let them do their civil war thing, fark themselves over and get it done with. Re-open when the mess is cleared and they get their country straight. I don't need a churro that bad.

it's not a civil war. it's a turf war over distribution of drugs going into the United States.

Man On Fire: that1guy77: Build additional walls, close the border and place patrols alongside the entire damn thing. Let them do their civil war thing, fark themselves over and get it done with. Re-open when the mess is cleared and they get their country straight. I don't need a churro that bad.

it's not a civil war. it's a turf war over distribution of drugs going into the United States.

Whatever you want to rename it.

This is why I didn't vote for this woman. I'm very displeased that she's SoS.

Another career politican completely missing the point.

If we made drugs legal, we would no longer have an insatiable need for illegal drugs.

Problem solved.

Of course she's right on the first part, that "we're to blame" for the violence that's sprung up, but it's not our using habits that are at the root of this. People are gonna use whether drugs are legal or not, and there will always be someone eager to sell them the drugs, whether they are legal or not.

It's always better to cut the dragon's head off than try to douse its flamebreath with a hose.

vygramul: If we made drugs legal, we would no longer have an insatiable need for illegal drugs.

Problem solved.

Ding ding. Winner.

SpinStopper: Just legalize the least harmful (and incidentally most plentiful) stuff, tax it, and be done with it.

nope go all the way
legalize everything

make the BLACK MARKET go AWAY

the problem with calling something "harmful" is that someone must make a judgement call and decide "good" vs "evil"

those idiotic decisions got us where we are today

legalize EVERYTHING
PUNISH SEVERLY people who commit crimes while drunk/drugged
those people are the ONLY harmful part ....

in fact, most harmful drugs are harmful because they are illegal and impure, not because of their inherent "danger"

but the "drugs are bad" crowd will never listen to reason
it is their new religion

Senescent Dawn: How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

/Pot represents... what? Almost 3/4 of the income of the drug cartels?

Really? I would have assumed cocaine was a bigger component.

namatad: but the "drugs/alcohol/sex/rock and roll are bad" crowd will never listen to reason

Enhancified

filth: Senescent Dawn: How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

/Pot represents... what? Almost 3/4 of the income of the drug cartels?

Really? I would have assumed cocaine was a bigger component.

Much more expensive for sure, but much lower proliferation.

namatad

Think of what that would do to the children!

dreadprophet: namatad

Think of what that would do to the children!

It would be fun as fark to babysit a bunch of kids who were tripping balls.

Wintermute6: filth: Senescent Dawn: How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

/Pot represents... what? Almost 3/4 of the income of the drug cartels?

Really? I would have assumed cocaine was a bigger component.

Much more expensive for sure, but much lower proliferation.

You're both right.

America consumes waaay more pot than cocaine. However, the majority of that pot is now domestically grown. Up til the 90s, a lot of it was Mexican (some Caribbean). I'm too lazy to find it, but the chair of econ at Harvard Business School just released an op-ed column in the WSJ/NYT/etc that had the supporting numbers. He was arguing for a complete repeal of drug prohibition, FWIW.

Wintermute6: filth: Senescent Dawn: How can someone so clearly diagnose the disease but not the cure?

/Pot represents... what? Almost 3/4 of the income of the drug cartels?

Really? I would have assumed cocaine was a bigger component.

Much more expensive for sure, but much lower proliferation.

Assholes. When I ask a question on Fark, I expect someone else to do the research. If I had any initiative, why would I be posting here?

61%. I wonder how they know that.

Making drugs like pot legal sounds fine, but I can't see doing the same for dangerous drugs like cocaine. Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

Perhaps instead of berating Hillary, we Americans ought to look at ourselves a bit here. Pot is bulky, difficult & expensive to move in large amounts. The real money is in coke and similar chemicals. Instead of dropping money for illegal drugs like those, perhaps we should stick with alcohol.

Hillary has a legitimate point. Our consumption of illegal drugs provides motivation and profit for illegal activities not only in our own country but in others like Mexico, Colombia, etc. Maybe we should just stop thinking it's harmless fun or stick with homegrown.

/Drug-interdiction vet.

AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

Because they cause (insert minority here) to rape white women?

dreadprophet: namatad

Think of what that would do to the children!

well the dumb farking kids would die younger and not breed
so, yah, this would be a greater good

/my guess is that you were being the funny

AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

Nope ;)

This is the kind of bullshiat logic that totally turned me off from the Democrats when I was younger.

AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

because of lies and proppganda ?
there are no DANGEROUS drugs (PCP and meth MIGHT be the only 2 of note)

coke?
totally safe and fun

addictive? sure fine, whatever, like tobacco is so safe

the bottomline is that legal "stuff" (tobacco, alcohol, sugar, ...) kill millions more people than all the "dangerous" stuff put together

Obdicut: This is the kind of bullshiat logic that totally turned me off from the Democrats when I was younger.

and "just say no!" from the GOP is the win?

namatad: AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

because of lies and proppganda ?
there are no DANGEROUS drugs (PCP and meth MIGHT be the only 2 of note)

coke?
totally safe and fun

addictive? sure fine, whatever, like tobacco is so safe

the bottomline is that legal "stuff" (tobacco, alcohol, sugar, ...) kill millions more people than all the "dangerous" stuff put together

Yeah, but on a percentage basis, heroin's pretty dangerous.

I wanna party with namatad.

namatad: and "just say no!" from the GOP is the win?

No, it's not. Why would you come to that conclusion?

The Democrats used to say dumb shiat like this all the time. Then the GOP decided saying dumb shiat like this was awesome, took it over, and did it in more insane ways than I'd ever seen done before.

Doesn't make it any less dumb shiat with Clinton brings it up again.

/Hey Hillary, if the word is 'insatiable', then why the fark do you think there's any way of dealing with the problem at that end?

I long for the days when we merely groaned at gift boxes of DVDs and mistranslated buttons. Hillary, please come home, and not because we miss you.

NeauxFear: America consumes waaay more pot than cocaine.


Anyone who has been in a grocery store should know this...

All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased
And law enforcement decreased
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences

seriously, end the war

You know, the Administration and Congress teaming up to start a trade war with Mexico really isn't helping either. I wonder if we could think of any new ways to shiat on our neighbors.

insatiable appetite for illegal drugs

All you have to do is remove ONE word to solve the problem.

Of course all drugs should be legal, taxed and regulated, like alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs are.

namatad: SpinStopper: Just legalize the least harmful (and incidentally most plentiful) stuff, tax it, and be done with it.

nope go all the way
legalize everything

make the BLACK MARKET go AWAY

the problem with calling something "harmful" is that someone must make a judgement call and decide "good" vs "evil"

those idiotic decisions got us where we are today

legalize EVERYTHING
PUNISH SEVERLY people who commit crimes while drunk/drugged
those people are the ONLY harmful part ....

in fact, most harmful drugs are harmful because they are illegal and impure, not because of their inherent "danger"

but the "drugs are bad" crowd will never listen to reason
it is their new religion

Yes please. Subscriptions, free internets, and a beer to you sir.

Legislating morality is a waste of time. But Clinton actually said the war on drugs was a complete failure.

But I vant beanersnitchel for dinner.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

insatiable appetites = wars eh?

Clearly Oil producing companies have been at war with eachother for decades, murdering each other over oil.

Quick, nobody inhale.

dhudd: Legislating morality is a waste of time. But Clinton actually said the war on drugs was a complete failure.

a but..but... Clinton?

But really, this is an awesome quote from an entrenched member of the establishment:

Clinton said U.S. efforts to ban drugs and prevent Americans from trying them had clearly not worked and it was unfair to blame Mexico for its drug gang problem.

Right HillaryGoDawgs!: AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

Because they cause (insert minority here) to rape white women?

Exactly! Anyone who promotes the legalization of drugs is advocating the rape of white women.

By Hill-dawg's logic, this explains why Afghanistan is at war with itself.

It's all about the heroin right? It's not like there is some religious factions trying to take over their country right?

Thats OK Chairman Obama told the world the USA caused this depression.

Just who voted for these 2 idiots? Come on own up.........

Britney Spear's Speculum: insatiable appetites = wars eh?

Clearly Oil producing companies have been at war with eachother for decades, murdering each other over oil.


we've have been doing the murdering for them in the ME nations that have the audacity to exist right where god put our oil.

Well duh.

But we are supposed to be free men. So fix that.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: insatiable appetite for illegal drugs

Well that didn't accomplish much.

NotLinky: Right HillaryGoDawgs!: AirForceVet: Remember the history of why some of them were made illegal in the first place?

Because they cause (insert minority here) to rape white women?

Exactly! Anyone who promotes the legalization of drugs is advocating the rape of white women.

The honor of white women must be protected at all costs. Hand me my rope, I am off to Mexicooooo!