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/Bork, Bork

nothing new really. the internet has had in-flight photos of the X-45C for years before it was officially rolled out. no one knew what specifically it was, but we knew it existed.

When I was in the first grade, I was such a dork that I called "The Government" to ask for a copy of Project Blue Book.

I have no idea who I called, I just skimmed the yellow pages for Government.

They said no.

CtrlAltDelete: They said no.



They said NO??! Start a thread on Above Top Secret!

Why would the British care about secret American aircraft? We're not going to bomb them.

FuturePastNow: Why would the British care about secret American aircraft? We're not going to bomb them.

we're not going to bomb Israelis either, yet they spy on us more than their enemies.

But what do the blancmanges have to gain from winning Wimbledon?

FuturePastNow: We're not going to bomb them.

at least not deliberately

Plot for next Bond film? 007: Flight Of Fission.

British intelligence, isn't that another oxymoron?

/ducks

Man On Fire: we're not going to bomb Israelis either, yet they spy on us more than their enemies


That's because the Israelis are assholes. The British should have better things to do. It's not 1812.

Mugato: Man On Fire: we're not going to bomb Israelis either, yet they spy on us more than their enemies


That's because the Israelis are assholes. The British should have better things to do. It's not 1812.

or is it?

Was a perfect black triangle......not so much anymore.

Ha. The triangles are definitely ours. I know they aren't from space.

Why did the British suspect we were developing secret aircraft without telling them? Honestly, they should simply assume that we are, because we are. And we all know it to be true, even if none of us will know what they are working on until they are twenty years obsolete.

Its a weather balloon

I hear it looks like a blue police box.

Totally gay nordic dudes from another planet?

punto: I hear it looks like a blue police box.

I was waiting for that.

Approves.

I'm gonna stick this cigarette lighter up my cornhole, that way when the aliens probe me, and you know they totally will, they get a face full of fire.

Top secret photo of new American military aircraft:

Of course the Americans are designing aircraft behind their backs. You can have allies, but you don't tell them EVERYTHING, christ man.

Even the West Germans managed to design secret aircraft behind the Americans' backs during the 70's and 80's despite them practically still occupying the country.

The MBB Lampyridae was built independent of the Have Blue Project and was actually calculated to have a lower RCS than the F-117. When the Germans showed the Americans the project (which was complete at the time), they were so infuriated that the Germans could build a better aircraft independently and secretly while the USA invested billions in the Have Blue project that they ordered the German project canceled. Idiots.

Oldiron_79: I'm gonna stick this cigarette lighter up my cornhole, that way when the aliens probe me, and you know they totally will, they get a face full of fire.

Ok now I believe you are hank's friend.

My question is simple. If these sightings are advanced American aircraft please explain why they do not seem to be used in war? There are no reported sightings of these craft over Iraq or Afghanistan. Why is that?

the lord god: My question is simple. If these sightings are advanced American aircraft please explain why they do not seem to be used in war? There are no reported sightings of these craft over Iraq or Afghanistan. Why is that?

Why in the flying f*ck hell would you use a half trillion dollar prototype aircraft to bomb a couple ragheads strapped with dynamite sitting in a clay hut?

Please, explain that.

LeroyBourne: Was a perfect black triangle......not so much anymore.

Oh Leroy you are bad -- BAd BAd Leroy Bourne !

/Skipped all other comments after that pic

Never mind the Americans, I want to know what the Russians are cooking. (new window)

the lord god: There are no reported sightings of these craft over Iraq or Afghanistan. Why is that?

As I'm fluent in neither Arabic or Afghani, and therefore do not read their press, I don't know that there haven't been sightings reported.

busted

FTA: In 1992, a secret memo reported nocturnal sightings in east London of "a bright cigar-shaped object, moving very slowly and making little or no sound". An intelligence analyst recorded that the craft was "almost certainly a brightly illuminated airship advertising the new Ford Mondeo".

An intelligent intelligence analyst? Unpossible!

the lord god: My question is simple. If these sightings are advanced American aircraft please explain why they do not seem to be used in war? There are no reported sightings of these craft over Iraq or Afghanistan. Why is that?


For the same reason we have an enormous nuclear arsenal and no mushroom clouds were spotted. It's not that kind of war. It's not even a real war, it's an occupation.

3skin: LeroyBourne: Was a perfect black triangle......not so much anymore.

Oh Leroy you are bad -- BAd BAd Leroy Bourne !

/Skipped all other comments after that pic

I am wearing my "Daddy's lil stinker" t shirt.

LeroyBourne: 3skin: LeroyBourne: Was a perfect black triangle......not so much anymore.

Oh Leroy you are bad -- BAd BAd Leroy Bourne !

/Skipped all other comments after that pic

I am wearing my "Daddy's lil stinker" t shirt.


Well I am awarding you the Calvin pissin' badge as well.

Incidently, with the proposed ban on brazilian waxing would you suppose we may see an increase in perfect black triangle sightings in the days to come? Or would you expect there would be more but less perfect black triangle sightings. Or possibly larger triangles ... its such a hairy proposition.

The US develops a super secret aircraft. They have three choices of where they can test it:

1) Over the desert in Nevada or similar area off limits to the public. (Still could be seen)

2) Over a remote area of the South Pacific. (Less likely to be seen, but harder to recover wreckage if it crashes)

3) Over a heavily populated country full of people modern enough to know the difference between a normal aircraft and a flying object that flies in an unusual manner. (Call the Weekly World News)

Quantum Apostrophe: Never mind the Americans, I want to know what the Russians are cooking. (new window)


VERY interesting, thanks. Had never seen this info.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: The MBB Lampyridae was built independent of the Have Blue Project and was actually calculated to have a lower RCS than the F-117. When the Germans showed the Americans the project (which was complete at the time), they were so infuriated that the Germans could build a better aircraft independently and secretly while the USA invested billions in the Have Blue project that they ordered the German project canceled. Idiots.

If by "complete" you mean a couple of models, then sure. Way to keep yet another stupid internet myth alive, good job.

Phaid: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: The MBB Lampyridae was built independent of the Have Blue Project and was actually calculated to have a lower RCS than the F-117. When the Germans showed the Americans the project (which was complete at the time), they were so infuriated that the Germans could build a better aircraft independently and secretly while the USA invested billions in the Have Blue project that they ordered the German project canceled. Idiots.

If by "complete" you mean a couple of models, then sure. Way to keep yet another stupid internet myth alive, good job.

And lets not leave out while the models were being wind tunnel tested the F117 had already been operational for a couple of years.

Was it Mr. Neutron?

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: the lord god: My question is simple. If these sightings are advanced American aircraft please explain why they do not seem to be used in war? There are no reported sightings of these craft over Iraq or Afghanistan. Why is that?

Why in the flying f*ck hell would you use a half trillion dollar prototype aircraft to bomb a couple ragheads strapped with dynamite sitting in a clay hut?

Please, explain that.

Eloquent questioning, responded to with a clear and no-nonsense answer. Keep up the dialog, gentlemen!

This---> Believe (pop'n'fresh)

Totally fake but still pretty cool--> Make-believe (pop'o'matic)

Phaid: If by "complete" you mean a couple of models, then sure. Way to keep yet another stupid internet myth alive, good job.

If by model you mean a prototype that a human pilot flew, then sure, a model.

Between the time the model was shown to US officials and the time they actually shut down the program (years), a fully built test aircraft was flown. Outside of the wind tunnel 1:1.33 models even, despite what Jane's and a few other sources say. But the Luftwaffe still claims "no comment" to this day. A half dozen or so personnel working on the project or at the airstrips confirm it, and all suspiciously either no longer work for the aerospace industry or died.

Way to "bust" another "myth", good job.

flexflint: Eloquent questioning, responded to with a clear and no-nonsense answer. Keep up the dialog, gentlemen!

Stupid ass questions deserve snarky answers.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude 2009-03-22 05:49:02 PM
Of course the Americans are designing aircraft behind their backs. You can have allies, but you don't tell them EVERYTHING, christ man.

Even the West Germans managed to design secret aircraft behind the Americans' backs during the 70's and 80's despite them practically still occupying the country.

The MBB Lampyridae was built independent of the Have Blue Project and was actually calculated to have a lower RCS than the F-117. When the Germans showed the Americans the project (which was complete at the time), they were so infuriated that the Germans could build a better aircraft independently and secretly while the USA invested billions in the Have Blue project that they ordered the German project canceled. Idiots.

Let me see if I have this straight: The Germans build a stealthier plane than the U.S. and the U.S. 'ordered' them to destroy it/cancel the program because it was 'better' than what the U.S. had designed?

This is sounds like major-league bullshiat.
Facts or go home.

So, everyone doubts that the US is secretly working on a new secret type of spy plane and "not telling anyone."

Isn't that the point of having a secret type of spy plane???

If you have a secret type of spy plane and you tell everyone about it, then it's no longer a) secret or b) of any use as a spy plane, amirite? When the first Stealth fighters were in testing in the early 80's, there were lots of UFO sightings up in Nevada and by Edwards, surprisingly, that all went away when the F-117 was unveiled. Ditto when the B-1 bomber was introduced.

The late 80's and early 90's UFO sightings were probably "Aurora", which was tested over Los Angeles at least three times that I know of; but whether that plane made it into service has never been proven. Because (see above) if YOU had a working hypersonic stealth suborbital spy plane, would YOU let everyone know you had one?

a blimp

I remember about fifteen years ago on the radio programme 'As It Happens' they interviewed two gents who claimed to have seen a triangular-shaped plane flying over the North Sea. They concluded this must have been a new US military aircraft.

A denial was issued. What would these two men know, after all.

Turns out they were Royal Navy observers.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: flexflint: Eloquent questioning, responded to with a clear and no-nonsense answer. Keep up the dialog, gentlemen!

Stupid ass questions deserve snarky answers.

Not a stupid question at all. If this is our top of the line technology why is it not being used? Some of these are supposed to be surveillance craft. I would think they should be showing up all over Afghanistan and Pakistan. Much like predator drones.

the lord god: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: flexflint: Eloquent questioning, responded to with a clear and no-nonsense answer. Keep up the dialog, gentlemen!

Stupid ass questions deserve snarky answers.

Not a stupid question at all. If this is our top of the line technology why is it not being used? Some of these are supposed to be surveillance craft. I would think they should be showing up all over Afghanistan and Pakistan. Much like predator drones.

Drones are being used. Super secret Mach 5 or whatever bombers that they have hiding out in the desert have absolutely zero use in that shiathole of a country. What would you need a mach 5 bomber for when there's practically zero AA, and any B-52 can do it just fine.

Some raghead with an RPG isn't going to shoot down a bomber flying at 30,000 feet. All the secret aircraft are developed for the inevitable conflict with a major world power, like China, Russia, etc, etc.

Last I checked Afghanistan doesn't have an air force, unless they taught donkey's how to fly. So yes, it is a stupid goddamn question.

Unimpressed by UK's slow response



/dnrtfa