Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english. The guy was 41 years old and from poland. His mother, a complete farking idiot, told him to wait where he picked up his luggage and she would pick him up there. Of course she is not allowed in the luggage area for international travel, which she should have known before she told him to wait there. So after hours of not being able to talk to anyone, confused and frustrated in a foreign country, the police came along and killed him when he failed to respond to their commands. The whole thing is on video tape if anyone wants to look for it.

Oh, and the mother, who I mentioned was a complete farking idiot, after waiting for a while, just decided to go home and figured he wasn't on the flight. She could have tried getting someone to check the baggage claim area, but apparently, she just went home.

They shouldn't have shot him, but if you are stupid enough to wave an Exacto knife at a cop because you think you have a "weapon", it's only a matter of time until Darwin claims you.

A piece of paper will inflict the same severity of wound as an Exacto, but tons more painful.

They should've smacked the guy with a baton. Sounds like excessive force was used - then again, "kill all humans" is the reason some knuckleheads become cops/soldiers/Presidents.

The information provided in the story equally supports subby's assertion that the police deleted video as that the victim was selling stolen rhinos. Why do I suspect I know who the fact-mitter is?

Canadians aren't the pussies that we all (even I) sometimes joke about. Well, except for Quebec.

You know, I understand fudging the headline a bit to get a reaction, but this is out and out libel.

Subby should get at least a temporary ban.

Wasn't it Canadian cops that infiltrated a protest and tried to incite violence but were busted by the soles of their jackboots?

The problem isn't Canadian or American. It's a porcine problem.

Sure, because no one with a box cutter could ever cause harm.



/oh, hey Mohammad

z_gringo: Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english. The guy was 41 years old and from poland. The whole thing is on video tape if anyone wants to look for it.

The sad part is that if the video didn't exist, it wouldn't have become such a controversy. Everyone would have taken the RCMP's story at face value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dziekanski

Waving a knife at a cop? That's a shooting every time.

St_Francis_P: They shouldn't have shot him, but if you are stupid enough to wave an Exacto knife at a cop because you think you have a "weapon", it's only a matter of time until Darwin claims you.

X-actly

flucto: The information provided in the story equally supports subby's assertion that the police deleted video as that the victim was selling stolen rhinos. Why do I suspect I know who the fact-mitter is?

It is true though, just not mentioned in that story.

Link (new window)

/Not mitter

canadians despite displaying a nice bright polished smile to the world will go pyscho ex girlfriend on you if you try to take their poutine/tim hortons...

Seriously if i had a choice messing with texas or canada id probably go with the texas option.

/has absolutely nothing to do with working with cbp/ice
//well maybe a little

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Canadians aren't the pussies that we all (even I) sometimes joke about. Well, except for Quebec.

Never forget: Wolverine is a Canadian

Was this the kind of X-acto with a #11 blade, or a utility knife with a 4" razor-sharp blade? Probably the latter, and they are scary. If the guy was breaking into cars, they should have gut shot him and crucified him at the city gates. Way to go, breaking $300 windows for $5 in change.

Definition deadly weapon (new window)

According to some law it's a deadly weapon - way too much freedom in definition there imo. Not sure what the law is in Canada

I have a question... How did we ever determine it was box cutters used that day? Anyone know? Not being my typical asinine self, just want to know.

Man brings knife to gun fight.

Wow, I thought Fark headlines were supposed to be funny and clever, not flat-out lies.

z_gringo: Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english. The guy was 41 years old and from poland. His mother, a complete farking idiot, told him to wait where he picked up his luggage and she would pick him up there. Of course she is not allowed in the luggage area for international travel, which she should have known before she told him to wait there. So after hours of not being able to talk to anyone, confused and frustrated in a foreign country, the police came along and killed him when he failed to respond to their commands. The whole thing is on video tape if anyone wants to look for it.

Oh, and the mother, who I mentioned was a complete farking idiot, after waiting for a while, just decided to go home and figured he wasn't on the flight. She could have tried getting someone to check the baggage claim area, but apparently, she just went home.

Interesting post. Full of lots of intentionally inciteful language. I'm sure it's 100% accurate.

Oh, wait. I found an article about it. "Airport security called the Mounties for assistance after an unidentified man began pounding on windows and throwing chairs and computer equipment in the customs area shortly after arriving on an international flight at 1:30 a.m., Richmond RCMP Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre told CBC News.". Then the police TAZED him and he had a FARKING HEART ATTACK.

Piss off, you.

Rozinante: If the guy was breaking into cars, they should have gut shot him and crucified him at the city gates.

Or they could tackle him and hold him down while you shove a living snake up his ass.

Do the police in that part of Canada not carry tasers?

Canadians are cute and cuddly until they snap, and when they do snap, it gets ugly -- see the Somalia Affair.

MIguy: Waving a knife at a cop? That's a shooting every time.

I dunno. Everything I know about police law was taught to me from the old Police Quest games, so I know what I'm talking about, and even if some Nazi girlfriend decides to try and stab you in the back when you're not looking, you're not allowed to shoot her EVER or else you spend the rest of your life in prison.

z_gringo: Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english. The guy was 41 years old and from poland. His mother, a complete farking idiot, told him to wait where he picked up his luggage and she would pick him up there. Of course she is not allowed in the luggage area for international travel, which she should have known before she told him to wait there. So after hours of not being able to talk to anyone, confused and frustrated in a foreign country, the police came along and killed him when he failed to respond to their commands. The whole thing is on video tape if anyone wants to look for it.

Oh, and the mother, who I mentioned was a complete farking idiot, after waiting for a while, just decided to go home and figured he wasn't on the flight. She could have tried getting someone to check the baggage claim area, but apparently, she just went home.

Reality check: He died from a taser, not a gunshot.

St_Francis_P: They shouldn't have shot him, but if you are stupid enough to wave an Exacto knife at a cop because you think you have a "weapon", it's only a matter of time until Darwin claims you.

Exactly. He brought a knife to a gunfight. Too bad.

Isuldirs: flucto: The information provided in the story equally supports subby's assertion that the police deleted video as that the victim was selling stolen rhinos. Why do I suspect I know who the fact-mitter is?

It is true though, just not mentioned in that story.

Link (new window)

/Not mitter

I'll wait on this one, thanks. According to the witness account, the officer asked to search the guy's bag, he took out a knife, she called for backup and then promptly shot him four times... before deleting his cell phone footage.

It's possible, but I'll wait on the results of the investigation.

BigSlowTarget: Definition deadly weapon (new window)

According to some law it's a deadly weapon - way too much freedom in definition there imo. Not sure what the law is in Canada

In Canada, a weapon is any object used as a weapon (or a firearm, or a list of a few scary martial arts toys). Kind of recursive, but it works ok. You can carry a sword down the street, as long as there is no malicious intent. If you hit someone with a banana, you will be charged with assault with a weapon. Obviously open to interpretation, which cops are not good at.

z_gringo: Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english. The guy was 41 years old and from poland. His mother, a complete farking idiot, told him to wait where he picked up his luggage and she would pick him up there. Of course she is not allowed in the luggage area for international travel, which she should have known before she told him to wait there. So after hours of not being able to talk to anyone, confused and frustrated in a foreign country, the police came along and killed him when he failed to respond to their commands. The whole thing is on video tape if anyone wants to look for it.

Oh, and the mother, who I mentioned was a complete farking idiot, after waiting for a while, just decided to go home and figured he wasn't on the flight. She could have tried getting someone to check the baggage claim area, but apparently, she just went home.

Murdered? You're a douche.

Yes, they tasered the guy, which resulted it death. Yes, it was a tragic incident, but it was not intentional.

You've got a large, visibly agitated man screaming and throwing stuff around. What do you want the cops to do? Sit back? Risk getting hurt? Seriously, what would you do?

Canadian bacon!

Oh yeah, and if the cops did nothing wrong, why did they delete the video? Charge them with murder 1 and destruction of evidence. What are they hiding.

Theological Farker: Or they could tackle him and hold him down while you shove a living snake up his ass.

I had not thought of that.

Nah, I like snakes.

If the cops had tasered him instead, he could have died of excited delirium!

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: How did we ever determine it was box cutters used that day?

Multiple eyewitnesses with cell phones.

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: I have a question... How did we ever determine it was box cutters used that day? Anyone know? Not being my typical asinine self, just want to know.

I believe the reports came from people on Flight 93 who were able to use their cell phones.

z_gringo: Don't underestimate Canada. They murdered a guy at the airport a couple of years ago who spoke no english.

I think you're conveniently forgetting the fact that he was armed with a stapler. A stapler!

flucto: The information provided in the story equally supports subby's assertion that the police deleted video as that the victim was selling stolen rhinos.

It's not in the linked story but it was reported on the local news last night. Subby's not just making it up. Whether or not the camera-guy is making it up is TBD.

Douchebaggery observes no borders. A cop is a cop in any country.

This is why YOU need to video record the cops, and not simply allow them to do it for you.

Cue the police whining about how dangerous it is and how they just want to go home to their families at the end of the day and every little possible weapon might be the ruin of their family's future, so of course they have no choice but to discharge their entire weapon into the suspect.

The statistics speak a story other than the anecdotal evidence does, however. They are nowhere near the top of the list of dangerous occupation injuries. What if the more risky careers took the same attitude? If a logger thought that another logger were about to fell a tree in his direction, would gunfire be appropriate? How would we react if cabdrivers stated that any sudden moves in their company might result in a shooting?

There were two female officers, only one fired the shots. Which i suspect was because she was just trigger happy and the suspect didn't pose an immediate threat that warranted deadly force, otherwise I believe both officers would have fired.

I'm always a little concerned when I see a 5'7 160 lb female police officer riding alone in a patrol car. When confronted with a violent 6'2 220 lb male suspect they would be a little more trigger happy than if it was a male officer riding. Just my own thoughts. I will see if i can find use of deadly force (including tazers) by female officers as opposed to males.

Fark You: You've got a large, visibly agitated man screaming and throwing stuff around. What do you want the cops to do? Sit back? Risk getting hurt? Seriously, what would you do?

They tazed him multiple times when he was already down. Five in total. Read the witness statements and get an education.
Next you'll say dragging an unconscious drunk outside to die of hypothermia was self defense too?

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Cue the police whining about how dangerous it is and how they just want to go home to their families at the end of the day and every little possible weapon might be the ruin of their family's future, so of course they have no choice but to discharge their entire weapon into the suspect.

The statistics speak a story other than the anecdotal evidence does, however. They are nowhere near the top of the list of dangerous occupation injuries. What if the more risky careers took the same attitude? If a logger thought that another logger were about to fell a tree in his direction, would gunfire be appropriate? How would we react if cabdrivers stated that any sudden moves in their company might result in a shooting?

Queue the douches that will come out with ridiculous arguements. The difference between an assailant and a misguided logger, is that the assailant is INTENTIONALLY trying to cause harm.

Even a witness who doesn't think the cops should have shot him admits that the guy took two steps towards the police with a something in his outstretched hand.
Wouldn't matter if that thing was a box of cracker jacks. That's usually a shooting in any cop language.

/Not all Canadian cops have tasers
//Under review as too dangerous
///See airport incident

Stop lashing out at Officer Darwin and let him do his job, libs.

I don't know whether or not she should have shot the guy, but if someone deleted video of the incident they should be kicked off the force and charged with obstruction of justice.

Wondering why, exactly, there is no greenlit thread on yesterday's oakland shootings...

Yay, another cop hater thread.

Loren: Reality check: He died from a taser, not a gunshot.

right. I never said he died from a gunshot. As Theological Farker and some others have already pointed out, there is a bit more to it.

He was tased repeatedly even after being subdued. He was unable to communicate and lost.

The police tased him to death for no good reason. Police these days are way to eager to use those farking tasers. There was no reason for this guy to die.

neenerist: Fark You: You've got a large, visibly agitated man screaming and throwing stuff around. What do you want the cops to do? Sit back? Risk getting hurt? Seriously, what would you do?

They tazed him multiple times when he was already down. Five in total. Read the witness statements and get an education.
Next you'll say dragging an unconscious drunk outside to die of hypothermia was self defense too?

Read the police reports and get an eduction. The police claim that they tazed him multiple times, because they believed that some of the probes had not have contacted Dziekański's body. Again, it was a tragic accident. I am not arguing that. But, I certainly don't consider the police to be overly zealous.

neenerist: They tazed him multiple times when he was already down. Five in total. Read the witness statements and get an education.

Wow, what an effective troll this asshole is. And yet I'm compelled to respond.

Just watched the video. He got hit once, MAYBE twice out of view. That was IT. And that was after a good 8 minutes of video of him being, well, farking looney. "Barricading" the door with rolling chairs...wielding a foldable tray table like a broadsword....not exactly what I think to do if I find myself in a foreign country and need to find a way to communicate....

Sod A Dog: Wondering why, exactly, there is no greenlit thread on yesterday's oakland shootings...

It was on the front page for a bit then disappeared.

Sod A Dog
Wondering why, exactly, there is no greenlit thread on yesterday's oakland shootings...

Where there white people involved?