And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

maybe, but it sounds like there might be repercussions from other inmates whom have attachments to said dog. I'm thinking 50 pissed off inmates taking turns beating one inmate with soda cans in socks...

Watch your cornhole, Bud.

freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

I'm thinking they're not putting to dog in with quite that level of prisoner.

I doubt this would end well if it was in with violent offenders, but with the non-violent guys, probation violations, etc, sure why not? So long as taxpayers aren't shouldering even more burden, I think it's a positive idea.

sanity_poison: I doubt this would end well if it was in with violent offenders, but with the non-violent guys, probation violations, etc, sure why not? So long as taxpayers aren't shouldering even more burden, I think it's a positive idea.

Actually, having inmates learn to work with animals has proven to be one of the few forms of "rehabilitation" that actually works. It is not fully understood by any means, but apparently, the act of making an emotional connection with another living being does things for socially broken people that all the psychiatrists and psychologists and their "therapies" seem to be unable to accomplish. Interesting.

freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

I highly doubt this is a program with violent offenders.

It's probably just drug users, auto theft, etc.

Unless they gouge out the eyes of officer Rivera and then train the dog to be a seeing eye dog for him. That would be nice.

/obscure?

jso2897: the act of making an emotional connection with another living being does things for socially broken people that all the psychiatrists and psychologists and their "therapies" seem to be unable to accomplish. Interesting.

Yup. It's the step that's needed before those eggheads and their "therapies" can have a chance to succeed, Mr. Cruise.

At least back in the day the dogs had to do something wrong to get thrown in prison...



obscure?

Helps the inmates, saves a dog's life. I think this is an awesome program and I really hope more prisons get involved.

freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

and then there's the kills/rapes scenario which is best left for a chan.

whm3: was that poor pooch in for huffing? kinda looks like Patrick.

beoswulf: freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

and then there's the kills/rapes scenario which is best left for a chan.

Oh we've had that thread on Fark already.

jso2897: sanity_poison: I doubt this would end well if it was in with violent offenders, but with the non-violent guys, probation violations, etc, sure why not? So long as taxpayers aren't shouldering even more burden, I think it's a positive idea.

Actually, having inmates learn to work with animals has proven to be one of the few forms of "rehabilitation" that actually works. It is not fully understood by any means, but apparently, the act of making an emotional connection with another living being does things for socially broken people that all the psychiatrists and psychologists and their "therapies" seem to be unable to accomplish. Interesting.

The dog is probably the safest of anyone or anything in that building, provided he doesn't encounter any psychopaths who like to specifically target animals. A lot of inmates don't have much tolerance for people who hurt kids or animals, or for guys who create situations which take away everyone's privileges, so there's some serious incentive there for everybody to be nice to the dog.

As far as the dog being therapeutic: my ex was an actual sociopath, and he would often tell me he liked animals better than he liked people. From my own observation he was fairly patient and gentle with dogs as well as my pet rabbit, but with a headcase like him it was always impossible to tell what was actual emotion and what was some kind of con act. Whether or not the "connection" did him any good is irrelevant, because he's still a farking scary asshole, he is always going to be, and I am really glad he doesn't know where i live anymore.

that's a purty biatch, mm-hmm.
i like blondes.
keep licking, etc....

"If you're in here and you don't have a personal friend in the world, a dog doesn't care what your crimes are, what you've done and what you haven't done -- he's just here to be your friend," DeLong said this week from Pod B at the new jail. "We've got a lot of inmates that need a friend.

Which is why they don't have Pod Cats.

I'll bet they get through a lot of peanut butter at that place.

At least back in the day the dogs had to do something wrong to get thrown in prison...

Nothing is obscure on FARK.

"Pennsylvania Governor Gifford Pinchot allegedly sentenced Pep "The Cat-Murdering Dog" to a life sentence at Eastern State. Pep allegedly murdered the governor's wife's cherished cat. Prison records reflect that Pep was assigned an inmate number (no. C2559), which is seen in his mug shot. However, the reason for Pep's incarceration remains a subject of some debate. A newspaper article reported that the governor donated his own dog to the prison to increase inmate morale."

I think cats would be good rehabilitation, too. LOL cats would make prisoners easier to manage on Saturdays.

oxymephorous: jso2897: sanity_poison: I doubt this would end well if it was in with violent offenders, but with the non-violent guys, probation violations, etc, sure why not? So long as taxpayers aren't shouldering even more burden, I think it's a positive idea.

Actually, having inmates learn to work with animals has proven to be one of the few forms of "rehabilitation" that actually works. It is not fully understood by any means, but apparently, the act of making an emotional connection with another living being does things for socially broken people that all the psychiatrists and psychologists and their "therapies" seem to be unable to accomplish. Interesting.

The dog is probably the safest of anyone or anything in that building, provided he doesn't encounter any psychopaths who like to specifically target animals. A lot of inmates don't have much tolerance for people who hurt kids or animals, or for guys who create situations which take away everyone's privileges, so there's some serious incentive there for everybody to be nice to the dog.

As far as the dog being therapeutic: my ex was an actual sociopath, and he would often tell me he liked animals better than he liked people.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Not exactly on topic, but there are quite a few programs around the country in which prisoners train service dogs, and even some where prisoners socialize rescue dogs for adoption.

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Spousal Unit and I have adopted two adult goldens in our marriage, and unless there's one possessed by the devil I don't think you could go wrong using a golden for therapeutic reasons. I don't think this would be a success story if the prison administrator used a yapping breed, like a chihuhua or schnauzer.

"We've got a lot of inmates that need a friend."

Well we wouldn't want them to feel lonely now would, we?

oxymephorous: jso2897: sanity_poison: I doubt this would end well if it was in with violent offenders, but with the non-violent guys, probation violations, etc, sure why not? So long as taxpayers aren't shouldering even more burden, I think it's a positive idea.

Actually, having inmates learn to work with animals has proven to be one of the few forms of "rehabilitation" that actually works. It is not fully understood by any means, but apparently, the act of making an emotional connection with another living being does things for socially broken people that all the psychiatrists and psychologists and their "therapies" seem to be unable to accomplish. Interesting.

The dog is probably the safest of anyone or anything in that building, provided he doesn't encounter any psychopaths who like to specifically target animals. A lot of inmates don't have much tolerance for people who hurt kids or animals, or for guys who create situations which take away everyone's privileges, so there's some serious incentive there for everybody to be nice to the dog.

As far as the dog being therapeutic: my ex was an actual sociopath, and he would often tell me he liked animals better than he liked people. From my own observation he was fairly patient and gentle with dogs as well as my pet rabbit, but with a headcase like him it was always impossible to tell what was actual emotion and what was some kind of con act. Whether or not the "connection" did him any good is irrelevant, because he's still a farking scary asshole, he is always going to be, and I am really glad he doesn't know where i live anymore.

I sympathise with your situation, and I'm glad you are out of it safely. There is no therapy that can "fix" everybody - sadly, everybody can't BE fixed. But this is one of the few approaches that has shown a real, measurable efficacy consistently, and I think it warrants further exploration.

Max, extreme prawn filmographer, meet Max, the star of your next film.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Unless they gouge out the eyes of officer Rivera and then train the dog to be a seeing eye dog for him. That would be nice.


Disapproves of your shenanigans.

Are they going to give the woman's prison a beagle?

They have a similair program at the local Juvenile Hall. The kids in the long-term wing (those convicted) get a dog assigned to them. The staff have found that most effective punishment they have is to revoke a kids dog privileges.

The thing about dogs is that they are never going to screw you over. They aren't going to sell you out for a pack of cigarettes or lie to you or any of the things humans do to each other.

FTA:The women's section of the jail is next on the list to get a dog, he said.

There aren't enough dogs in the women's correctional facility already?

/ba-dum ching!

freakymescan: And the sad part is, it's just a matter of time before someone kills, rapes, rapes/kills one of these dogs.

This is a county jail, not a prison. There's a big difference, one being that someone who is that violent to begin with usually isn't kept in the general jail population. Even then, most of the other inmates would enact retribution against the inmate who hurt Max.

LoneVVolf: "We've got a lot of inmates that need a friend."

Well we wouldn't want them to feel lonely now would, we?

No, you're right, let dehumanize them some more so that when they get out they act even more sociopathic than when they went in.

This is a county jail. Those guys are not in there for longer than 2 years. I think this is relatively safe for the dog..

rmoody: LoneVVolf: "We've got a lot of inmates that need a friend."

Well we wouldn't want them to feel lonely now would, we?

No, you're right, let dehumanize them some more so that when they get out they act even more sociopathic than when they went in.

They shouldn't be in there soaking up community resources unless they're not fit for society in the first place; and at that point they shouldn't BE getting out...