I love a good foreworks show.

Dr.Fey:

Off to a great start I see.

More because some sights that the Briton wanted to explore during her two week visit have been closed.

Just like Disney. You show up and the rides you were looking foward to are closed for maintenance.

Ahh, I laughed at the headline

/ticket please

All forework and no foreplay make Jack dull boy.
All forework and no foreplay make Jack dull boy.
All forework and no foreplay make Jack dull boy.
All forework and no foreplay make Jack dull boy.
All forework and no foreplay make Jack dull boy.

For some reason those tourists remind me of these two bags.

Did the Iraqis throw roses at their feet and ask them to thank Lockheed Martin for giving their house a sunroof?

LeroyBourne: For some reason those tourists remind me of these two bags.

Who the hell are they? The real life versions of those old weirdo's in Coraline?

This is like placing a classified ad for kidnappings.

First the forework, then the fireplays!

Iraq? Is that thing still going on? It's like the "According to Jim" of wars.

I'd also like to add, thank God the first tourists aren't american. Then again, I didn't rtfa. (all the way through.)

Worn torn countries are fun to visit. 3 Years ago I drove through the Krajina region of Croatia, where the fighting took place in the early 90s. Mind you, I normally just stay on the coast and never travel inland. There are towns where every house is burnt to the ground and mine field signs are everywhere. It shows you what war is really like. Every America should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

Foreworks....Is that like foreplay?

PhiloeBedoe: Iraq? Is that thing still going on?

Yeah, the media doesn't pay much attention when we're actually winning.

/No troll or threadjack intent - please don't flame.
//oh hell go ahead

The dumbass tag is overused.
When the American people finally have some interest in culture of Iraq the war won't seem so disingenuous.

Jaws_Victim: LeroyBourne: For some reason those tourists remind me of these two bags.

Who the hell are they? The real life versions of those old weirdo's in Coraline?

From one of Terry Gilliam's best films, Brazil (new window).

I would do it as long as I could be armed to the teeth.

I hope to be able to go back to Iraq one day and see it in a different light. I was there 04/05 and it sucked.

tricky gnosis: The dumbass tag is overused.
When the American people finally have some interest in culture of Iraq the war won't seem so disingenuous.

right we'll just ake those cultural aspects steal them and portray them as our own. It's the american way

Why the dumbass tag? People go to DC all the time.

Pechorin: Worn torn countries are fun to visit. 3 Years ago I drove through the Krajina region of Croatia, where the fighting took place in the early 90s. Mind you, I normally just stay on the coast and never travel inland. There are towns where every house is burnt to the ground and mine field signs are everywhere. It shows you what war is really like. Every America should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

Your dig to the Americans who did their best to prevent war in the Balkans, masked as faux concern about war in general, might seem a bit less ridiculous if it had been the Americans that bombed Croatia.

There's a special place in Hell for the likes of you.

Pechorin: Every American should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

This. They should also have to go through a real (say Indian or Brazilian) slum to learn what real poverty and deprivation looks like. For that matter, they should just have a walk around an arbitrary Indian or Chinese city (not the tourist areas, and not with a tour group) to see how most of the world lives.

It really helps put the whole pop-culture "you're not successful unless you live in Manhattan or own a 5000-square-foot suburban mansion" mentality in perspective.

FTFA: "But I think maybe a few more of the sites need to be open to tourists because if tourists are going to come to Iraq, there has got to be things for them to see when they get here."

I hate that kind of tourist. I don't go to see some monument, which will always be underwhelming, I go to check out the atmosphere and the living culture of a place. Listening to Iraqis tell their stories, if you could get across the language barrier, would be way more interesting than seeing some tacky Saddam-era monument or some looted ruins from some third-rate dynasty.

kinglemur: Pechorin: Every American should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

This. They should also have to go through a real (say Indian or Brazilian) slum to learn what real poverty and deprivation looks like. For that matter, they should just have a walk around an arbitrary Indian or Chinese city (not the tourist areas, and not with a tour group) to see how most of the world lives.

It really helps put the whole pop-culture "you're not successful unless you live in Manhattan or own a 5000-square-foot suburban mansion" mentality in perspective.

Who the hell says that? Succeess is an extrememly relative term. You don't have to live in India to be poor, and you don't have to have a seven digit checking account to be rich. Someone with a loving wife and healthy kids who's happy to go to chuch on Sunday is richer than Bernie Madoff.

Pechorin: Every American should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

kinglemur This. They should also have to go through a real (say Indian or Brazilian) slum to learn what real poverty and deprivation looks like. For that matter, they should just have a walk around an arbitrary Indian or Chinese city (not the tourist areas, and not with a tour group) to see how most of the world lives.



Most of the world lives in perpetual torment because of a lack of either Christianity or Democracy. Neither this religion nor this system of government has much room for suffering or mistreatment.

All the problems with starvation and genocide and war come from either moslems, or atheists operating under the banner of socialism.

letrole: Pechorin: Worn torn countries are fun to visit. 3 Years ago I drove through the Krajina region of Croatia, where the fighting took place in the early 90s. Mind you, I normally just stay on the coast and never travel inland. There are towns where every house is burnt to the ground and mine field signs are everywhere. It shows you what war is really like. Every America should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

Your dig to the Americans who did their best to prevent war in the Balkans, masked as faux concern about war in general, might seem a bit less ridiculous if it had been the Americans that bombed Croatia.

There's a special place in Hell for the likes of you.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. FYI, Americans bombed parts of Croatia, but it was to assist the Croatian Army. I certainly don't blame America for the war in the Balkans. I think they handled it fairly well for something that had nothing to do with them.

My dig was at the fact that most Americans think war is a glorious venture where metal music plays to pump you up as you kill evil. In reality it's a pretty horrifying experience.

letrole: Pechorin: Every American should have to go through a war torn country. Then maybe they wouldn't bomb other places without thinking about what they're actually doing.

kinglemur This. They should also have to go through a real (say Indian or Brazilian) slum to learn what real poverty and deprivation looks like. For that matter, they should just have a walk around an arbitrary Indian or Chinese city (not the tourist areas, and not with a tour group) to see how most of the world lives.



Most of the world lives in perpetual torment because of a lack of either Christianity or Democracy. Neither this religion nor this system of government has much room for suffering or mistreatment.

All the problems with starvation and genocide and war come from either moslems, or atheists operating under the banner of socialism.

Ok, nevermind. You're either an idiot or a troll.

Ha, I got paid to go there. Suckers!

Pechorin: I certainly don't blame America for the war in the Balkans.

Well then, that sort of renders your smug finger pointing moot, but only under a call to justify your remarks.

Pechorin Ok, nevermind. You're either an idiot or a troll.

Troll = someone with whom you disagree

letrole: Pechorin: I certainly don't blame America for the war in the Balkans.

Well then, that sort of renders your smug finger pointing moot, but only under a call to justify your remarks.

Pechorin Ok, nevermind. You're either an idiot or a troll.

Troll = someone with whom you disagree

"All the problems with starvation and genocide and war come from either moslems, or atheists operating under the banner of socialism."

If you really believe that you can't be taken seriously.

Pathighgate: More because some sights that the Briton wanted to explore during her two week visit have been closed.

Just like Disney. You show up and the rides you were looking foward to are closed for maintenance.



/Sorry, folks.

Pechorin: Ok, nevermind. You're either an idiot or a troll.

Subtle hint: the guy's name is letrole.

subby: First Western tourists visit Iraq

I've stayed at a First Western, but not the one in Iraq. Those chains are everywhere nowadays.

letrole "All the problems with starvation and genocide and war come from either moslems, or atheists operating under the banner of socialism."

Pechorin: If you really believe that you can't be taken seriously.

Then get to it. Where is the starvation with either Christianty or democracy? A bonus will be granted if you can find starvation along side a free press, regardless of religion or politics.

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Pechorin: Ok, nevermind. You're either an idiot or a troll.

Subtle hint: the guy's name is letrole.

subby: First Western tourists visit Iraq

I've stayed at a First Western, but not the one in Iraq. Those chains are everywhere nowadays.

Yeah, I noticed that at first too. But I couldn't resist. He's on ignore now.

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Subtle hint: the guy's name is letrole.

My surname is Le Trôle.

While your amateur knowledge of linguistic false friends is deplorable, you might do better if you provide some sort of counter-argument that addresses the simple statement that I made

Dr. Fey

More please.

Boy lady, you are really asking for it.

kinglemur: This. They should also have to go through a real (say Indian or Brazilian) slum to learn what real poverty and deprivation looks like. For that matter, they should just have a walk around an arbitrary Indian or Chinese city (not the tourist areas, and not with a tour group) to see how most of the world lives.

I walked around Kingston, that was so depressing. One thing I noticed is that people weren't sitting around moping. Despite not having much they were out living some sort of life.

Most interesting trip over that way...Oman. Spent some time surfing with some friends from Dubai, it was apparent that they'd not see a lot of yanks. Had fun, people were nice.

letrole: Hilary T. N. Seuss: Subtle hint: the guy's name is letrole.

My surname is Le Trôle.

While your amateur knowledge of linguistic false friends is deplorable, you might do better if you provide some sort of counter-argument that addresses the simple statement that I made

You're Samsaren. Too obvious.

/yeah, I didn't put you on ignore. I never put ol' Sammy on ignore either.

Pechorin: Yeah, I noticed that at first too. But I couldn't resist. He's on ignore now.

No dear, I'm not on ignore (sic). You to pay $5 per month to get that facility. You failed to provide a reasonable response. I cannot help but imagine you as that negro comedian Eddie Murphy who used to cover his eyes say "la la la I can't hear you".

bgddy24601:
/Sorry, folks.

Props to you bro. First laugh of the day.

Now I can start drinking...

Pechorin: You're Samsaren. Too obvious.

And you're unable to provide a reasonable counter-argument, let alone any sort of response that rises above the antics of a washed-up comedian who spends his retirement from show business courting transvestite prostitutes on Hollywood Boulevard.

What a proud young man you must be.

letrole: Pechorin: Yeah, I noticed that at first too. But I couldn't resist. He's on ignore now.

No dear, I'm not on ignore (sic). You to pay $5 per month to get that facility. You failed to provide a reasonable response. I cannot help but imagine you as that negro comedian Eddie Murphy who used to cover his eyes say "la la la I can't hear you".

Did I trip, slip, and fall into 1956?

Green Scorpio: Did I trip, slip, and fall into 1956?

Sorry, I should have said 'coloured'.

letrole: Pechorin: You're Samsaren. Too obvious.

And you're unable to provide a reasonable counter-argument, let alone any sort of response that rises above the antics of a washed-up comedian who spends his retirement from show business courting transvestite prostitutes on Hollywood Boulevard.

What a proud young man you must be.

ROFL. I'm in Indiana. I'm a washed up farmer who spends his time courting washed-up one-tooth prostitutes with meth addictions FYI. But you were close.

Oh, and MORE MORE. I'm amused.

Green Scorpio: letrole: Pechorin: Yeah, I noticed that at first too. But I couldn't resist. He's on ignore now.

No dear, I'm not on ignore (sic). You to pay $5 per month to get that facility. You failed to provide a reasonable response. I cannot help but imagine you as that negro comedian Eddie Murphy who used to cover his eyes say "la la la I can't hear you".

Did I trip, slip, and fall into 1956?

His name is "the troll" in french I believe.

Also, FWIW I believe liters can ignore people now, I do'nt know why it was a TF only thing before, it's mostly on main/politics pages that I see things I want to ignore...

letrole: Green Scorpio: Did I trip, slip, and fall into 1956?

Sorry, I should have said 'coloured'.

Boah, here in America we don't use no unnecessary "u"s in our racial terms.

Pechorin: ROFL. I'm in Indiana. I'm a washed up farmer who spends his time courting washed-up one-tooth prostitutes with meth addictions FYI. But you were close.

That admission says less about your location or vocation, and more about your personal preferences. I've always found the prostitutes in Indiana to be the top of society. Or the daughters of those at the top, at least.

Barakku: letrole: Green Scorpio: Did I trip, slip, and fall into 1956?

Sorry, I should have said 'coloured'.

Boah, here in America we don't use no unnecessary "u"s in our racial terms.

Heh, letrole is just another lazy Canadian or Brit who lives to mock America... :D

/troll on you trolly diamond