Next time, go with the Not-Quite-So-Secret Service.

She only has Secret Service protection until June & only one or two of them with her at anytime this is pretty much a non story except a LEO car was towed which happens all the time in cities with Predator Towing Companies.

Unavailable for comment

Royalty is above the law.

In their defense it was marked Flowers By Irene.

I don't think she's a Bush any more.

She doesn't care about parking tickets, they're just god damned pieces of paper.

At least she wasn't trying to buy a drink with a fake ID at a Tex-Mex restaurant.

Baltimore doesn't care who you are or what your story is - park your car wrong here and it is going to get ticketed, booted, and towed as soon as they find it.

It's the last real source of revenue this city has, honestly.

borg: She only has Secret Service protection until June & only one or two of them with her at anytime this is pretty much a non story except a LEO car was towed which happens all the time in cities with Predator Towing Companies.

Here, you can borrow some of these. ... ,,,

At least she wasn't ticketed for being drunk in public and flashing her tits.

Well, this has nearly nothing to do with Ms. Bush. This is just about the secret service detail and their parking habits.

Honestly, if I was one of the neighbors, I'd be glad to have them on the block watching 24/7. I bet there is no crime on that block (other than the parking thingy).

Githerax: Royalty is above the law.

No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

The only place that can really get away with this is DC, since DC municipal law is approved by Congress and is essentially Federal law.

Maybe you should have stayed awake in Civics class.

EyeballKid: She doesn't care about parking tickets, they're just god damned pieces of paper.

Um, you do realize she probably wasn't driving the vehicle, right? Therefore, she probably didn't park it? And she didn't get the ticket?

Or are you really that stupid?

bwesb: Baltimore doesn't care who you are or what your story is - park your car wrong here and it is going to get ticketed, booted, and towed as soon as they find it.

It's the last real source of revenue this city has, honestly.

You may get a ticket while parked correctly, too.

I got a ticket in a "two hour parking only" space after having been there for 40 minutes. Was doing a pest control route, and had customers on opposite ends of the same block. Finished one, went to lunch, went to the second one. As I was finishing up, my customer told me I was being ticketed. The customer was outside when the parking pig was writing the ticket. He told the cop that I wasn't even there an hour, but the cop wouldn't listen. By the time I got outside, the cop was gone.

The company wouldn't let me challenge the ticket. They just took the 25 dollar fine from my paycheck. I was pissed. This was 7 years ago, and I'm still not over it.

Where was the agent that is supposed to be in the vehicle at all times?

I always find it interesting when the "common" folks demand that everyone be treated equally, that is until they learn that there are people that want them dead or hostage for ransom.

lefande: Githerax: Royalty is above the law.

No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

The only place that can really get away with this is DC, since DC municipal law is approved by Congress and is essentially Federal law.

Maybe you should have stayed awake in Civics class.

By that way of thinking, a SS agent could drive the wrong way on a highway and could not be ticketed. Hell, he could murder someone and not be arrested. Yeah, the Supremacy Clause doesn't mean what you think it means. The Supremacy Clause does not provide immunity to agents of the federal government.

Sure as hell didn't stay awake in civics class.

borg: She only has Secret Service protection until June & only one or two of them with her at anytime this is pretty much a non story except a LEO car was towed which happens all the time in cities with Predator Towing Companies.


Apparently they threw away the tickets like you throw away periods.

AFAIK, there are no laws that grant immunity from state law to federal agents. And the supremacy clause you refer to applies when state law and federal law are in conflict. It doesn't mean "We can do whatever the hell we want"

lefande: No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

The only place that can really get away with this is DC, since DC municipal law is approved by Congress and is essentially Federal law.

Maybe you should have stayed awake in Civics class.

lefande: No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

fark this.Pics of Barbara Jr. please.

Dam Bushes ... When will they just go away?

Baltimore meter maids are the predators not necessarily the towing companies. Having had my car towed several times, they have a van that patrols the streets with a computer linked scanning system that recognizes cars with the 3 or more overdue unpaid tickets.

When their sensor goes off they stop and put a boot on the car and call a tow company to come take the car away. So they just drive all over the city all the time doing this as a way to make money for the city.

What Baltimore would look like if Daddy was still in charge

NightOwl2255: lefande:
By that way of thinking, a SS agent could drive the wrong way on a highway and could not be ticketed. Hell, he could murder someone and not be arrested. Yeah, the Supremacy Clause doesn't mean what you think it means. The Supremacy Clause does not provide immunity to agents of the federal government.


While I'm not going to spend too much time trying to read Sanskrit to this pony, yes, it does mean that.

Your first example: driving the wrong way on a highway.
If it is in the performance of official duties, yes, the agent is immune. They do stuff like this all the time.

Your second example: Murder.
Murder, by definition, is unlawful and malum in se. That means the act itself is inherently wrong. Committing murder is never a part of a Federal agent's mission and therefore, such an act extinguishes official acts immunity.

The act of killing a suspect justified within the confines of the law would not be murder.

Parking on the corner, or driving in a particular direction on a road are strictly malum prohibitum. That means that means doing something is only unlawful because the local government says so.

I imagine these subtleties of the law will be likely lost on you, but hopefully they will be helpful to others.

devilskware: fark this.Pics of Barbara Jr. please.

Indeed. Jenna looks like her father after gender reassignment.

Dirty brown skin

theorellior: lefande: No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

WTF does a First Amendment doctrine have to do with the Supremacy Clause and Federal agents parked illegally? Is that the only term you know from Constitutional law.

Oh FSM, I'm getting out of here. The ignorance is scary.

BTW, prior restraint has not been "roundly rejected". It is "presumably unconstitutional" unless the government can meet a "clear and present danger" test.

my words people!!! there is a complete helping of vitriol in this thread!!!

/why so pissy?

Don't they know Feds are above the law?

Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus 2009-03-21 12:23:01 PM
my words people!!! there is a complete helping of vitriol in this thread!!!

/why so pissy?
After 8 years of blaming Bush for every failure ever created they don't know how to react to a non-story.

Obama could fark one of his own daughters in the Rose Garden and they'd still blame Bush for it.

Actual picture and caption from an NBC article (new window) about this.



/thinks NBC writers are hanging out on Fark a lot

Just a silly question (from TFA) - If you have 3 or more parking tickets that are more than 30 days old, wouldn't you actually DO something about it rather than just leaving them in the glove box?

Secret Service sounds like they rather farked this up.

The DBS 2009-03-21 12:32:55 PM
Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus 2009-03-21 12:23:01 PM
my words people!!! there is a complete helping of vitriol in this thread!!!

/why so pissy?
After 8 years of blaming Bush for every failure ever created they don't know how to react to a non-story.

Obama could fark one of his own daughters in the Rose Garden and they'd still blame Bush for it.


Wow. Way to provide a completely perfect example of anticipatory Bush defensiveness. Show me anything in this thread prior to your comment that has anything to do with 'W' aside from 'stupid Bushes'.

The closest possible thing would be the 'just a piece of paper' comment, which was a joke referring more to the tickets than anything else.

Yet here you are, injecting Bush hate into a thread that has mainly been about whether or not agents of the Federal government are subject to state restrictions, and some comments about parking tickets.

You're either a complete troll, which is just plain sad, given that it's a Saturday in springtime, which is a pretty lame time to be trolling, or you have a serious persecution complex.

texasjoe: At least she wasn't ticketed for being drunk in public and flashing her tits.

You say that like it would be a bad thing.

kona,jake_lex: In other news, the Secret Service has withdrawn plans to donate a church window.

Just popped up to say that I would ticket her secret security van gently, lovingly and with many tender words whispered.

FilmBELOH20: EyeballKid: She doesn't care about parking tickets, they're just god damned pieces of paper.

Um, you do realize she probably wasn't driving the vehicle, right? Therefore, she probably didn't park it? And she didn't get the ticket?

Or are you really that stupid?

Let them go. It's just another opportuntity to take a shot at people who don't matter any more (never did?) while the Chimp-in-Chief continues to swerve us to the left and run us broke.

I'm an atheist, so listen carefully, I'm going to say this only once: God bless them all!

I'm a big fan of the rule of law, and if it means that sometimes a tough, gritty, worldly-wise, willing-to-get-his-hands-dirty but essentially honest cop, who really cares about justice and equity and the Laws and Constitution, has to tow the van of the Powers That Be, then I'm willing to wink and let it pass.

What would His Grace, Commander Sir Samuel Vimes of the Night Watch, Duke of Ankh-Morpork, do?

Try to fit that on a bracelet!

Walker: Actual picture and caption from an NBC article (new window) about this.



/thinks NBC writers are hanging out on Fark a lot

totally. And where did she get her genes from? DaMN shes the Hottest Bush out there!

lefande: .....Maybe you should have stayed awake in Civics class.


Do they teach parking law and etiquette in Car school?

ttc2301: FilmBELOH20: EyeballKid: She doesn't care about parking tickets, they're just god damned pieces of paper.

Um, you do realize she probably wasn't driving the vehicle, right? Therefore, she probably didn't park it? And she didn't get the ticket?

Or are you really that stupid?

Let them go. It's just another opportuntity to take a shot at people who don't matter any more (never did?) while the Chimp-in-Chief continues to swerve us to the left and run us broke.


Screw your theocratic plutocracy. The country NEEDED to swerve to the left.

farkin fascists....

i hope jenna's bush is okay.

brantgoose: I'm an atheist, BLAH BLAH BLAH! LOOK AT ME!

You know what's almost as annoying as super-outspoken religious folk? Super-outspoken atheists.

/Keep your beliefs between you and whomever you do or don't pray to, and shut the fark up. No one cares.

The country did indeed need to get its swerve on.
Wholesale robbery on an epic scale just wasn't working out
according to the most mammoth, carefully orchestrated plan.

Do what Bush did: pat them on the back, tell them they did a "superb" job, and then boot them down the stairs.

It just occurred to me that Bush may be using the word "superb" in an etymologically correct sense, very close to the original Latin, "superbia".

In this sense, the Bush Administration did a "superb" job. Thank you for helpting to boot them down the stairs! (What took you so long?)

From Wikipedia, Your First Stop for Knowledge:

"In almost every list pride (or hubris or "vanity") is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to acknowledge the good work of others, and excessive love of self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbor." In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. Vanity and narcissism are prime examples of this sin. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents were forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs in order to induce feelings of humility.
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The Wikipedia page on the Seven Deadly Sins (new window) is worth a visit to see the painting by Heironymous Bosch.

It's the Wheel of Deadly Sins!

Does it spin?

You bet!

Give it a turn!

And today's Deadly Sin is ... Sloth!

If any of you are artists, I recommend making a facsimile of the painting that does, in fact, spin. Let me know how that turns out! You can probably post the result to Boing Boing. They'll take anything that's even half way to cool as all get out, and if you do post it, I'll almost certainly see it some day, especially if you post the link to Fark.com directly thereafter.

lefande: Githerax: Royalty is above the law.

No, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says Federal government > State law. Federal agents do not need to abide by any State law in the performance of their mission.

The only place that can really get away with this is DC, since DC municipal law is approved by Congress and is essentially Federal law.

Maybe you should have stayed awake in Civics class.

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about because he was asleep during class. You were awake and you're still wrong.

That's a bigger fail IMO.

X-boxershorts: ttc2301: FilmBELOH20: EyeballKid: She doesn't care about parking tickets, they're just god damned pieces of paper.

Um, you do realize she probably wasn't driving the vehicle, right? Therefore, she probably didn't park it? And she didn't get the ticket?

Or are you really that stupid?

Let them go. It's just another opportuntity to take a shot at people who don't matter any more (never did?) while the Chimp-in-Chief continues to swerve us to the left and run us broke.


Screw your theocratic plutocracy. The country NEEDED to swerve to the left.

farkin fascists....

How about the going broke part, champ? Did we need that, too? Nobody asked my grandkids if they wanted to pay for the handouts.

Even though Miss Jenna resembles what a raptor would crap out after it made lunch out of Poppy, I'd still ticket the god-almighty living hell out of that secret svc. van.

One could almost imagine it was him distressed and wetting himself, writhing in a pool of pure, unadulterated man lava.

/Grudge Fark FTW