They're victims of a brutal occupation fighting back the only way they can.

Siskel unavailable for comment.

They should cut to the chase and just threaten everybody that isn't them already.

I would have never thought that ground chick-peas with garlic could be so violent.

Subby gets two thumbs up.

ObscureNameHere: I would have never thought that ground chick-peas with garlic could be so violent.

It's explosive when it goes bad

NOW I'm Gene Shaaaalit! ByeeeeeeeeeEEEE!

Institute reconciliation by integrating society under a single unified secular state and leverage will immediately switch from militarism to negotiated political solutions. One undivided democratic state is the only solution.

DarnoKonrad: Institute reconciliation by integrating society under a single unified secular state and leverage will immediately switch from militarism to negotiated political solutions. One undivided democratic state is the only solution.

Anti-Semite!

I wondered what happened to Bartman.

Gene Shalit's moustache fears no evil.

The world has forgotten Jay Sherman.

:(

FTFA: negotiations for Shalit's release remain stuck on which Palestinian prisoners Israel will set free

Easy, how about starting with the hundreds of women and children?

Hamas threatens shiat; Ebert, Roeper moved to undisclosed, secure location

filth: They're victims of a brutal occupation fighting back the only way they can.

The origins of the movement known as Hamas go as far back as the 1936-1939 Arab revolt and began as an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Also, nothing justifies blowing yourself up in the middle of a café filled by innocents.

DarnoKonrad: Institute reconciliation by integrating society under a single unified secular state and leverage will immediately switch from militarism to negotiated political solutions. One undivided democratic state is the only solution.

I hope you're joking. The only way states can survive is through nationalist borders. The differences between Israelis and Palestinians is irreconcilable - the only way that either will be happy is with a two-state solution.

AnthraxRipple: The world has forgotten Jay Sherman.

:(

I'M NOT GHEY!

Can't Hamas shut the fark up just once?

"If you don't give us what we want, we'll kill someone." I'm so tired of hearing their variations on that line.

Are there any Palestinian leaders over there who DON'T have shiat for brains? And if there are, could they please step forward and take the microphone from the kids, please?

Poor kid... can't image what it's like being a political football between these two groups.

Tatsuma: filth: They're victims of a brutal occupation fighting back the only way they can.

The origins of the movement known as Hamas go as far back as the 1936-1939 Arab revolt and began as an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Also, nothing justifies blowing yourself up in the middle of a café filled by innocents.

Turn up the gain on your sarcasm detector.

Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: I hope you're joking. The only way states can survive is through nationalist borders. The differences between Israelis and Palestinians is irreconcilable - the only way that either will be happy is with a two-state solution.

People who advocate the one-state solution realize fully well that this will lead to a bloody civil war where 10x-100x more civilians will die than they have in the last 60 years, and that this will at best lead to a situation where Jews will be a minority in an oppressive Islamic dictatorship controlled by Iran through its Hamas and Islamic Jihad proxies.

They just hate Israel that much that this is a fair cost to see it destroyed.

That Gene Shalit is bad news.

"Don't Panic Room, and I won't William Hurt you. I just want your Tango And Cash. So just Pay it Forward and we'll all be Happy Gilmore."

http://tubearoo.com/articles/11622/Family_Guy_Gene_Shalit.html?autoplay=true



_{/No linkey because you touch yourself at night.}

filth:Turn up the gain on your sarcasm detector.

To be fair, how many farkers say this completely earnestly? If you want sarcasm to work, you at least have to include an element that is obviously way over the top....

AnthraxRipple: The world has forgotten Jay Sherman.

it stinks

yes mr. sherman everything stinks

I Said: ObscureNameHere: I would have never thought that ground chick-peas with garlic could be so violent.

It's explosive when it goes bad

Oh,I guess so. It is just so yummy with baby carrots or breadsticks that it usually isn't sitting in the fridge long enough to go bad.

Tatsuma: Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: I hope you're joking. The only way states can survive is through nationalist borders. The differences between Israelis and Palestinians is irreconcilable - the only way that either will be happy is with a two-state solution.

People who advocate the one-state solution realize fully well that this will lead to a bloody civil war where 10x-100x more civilians will die than they have in the last 60 years, and that this will at best lead to a situation where Jews will be a minority in an oppressive Islamic dictatorship controlled by Iran through its Hamas and Islamic Jihad proxies.

They just hate Israel that much that this is a fair cost to see it destroyed.

I am sure jews will be fine being oppressed, they seem to have come out on top before. What part of secular don't you get?

Tatsuma: filth: They're victims of a brutal occupation fighting back the only way they can.

The origins of the movement known as Hamas go as far back as the 1936-1939 Arab revolt and began as an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Also, nothing justifies blowing yourself up in the middle of a café filled by innocents.

So what justifies the Israeli land grab and illegal occupation of the West Bank?

Nice to see that they have time to threaten with all their stealing of aid meant for civilians and brutally torturing and murdering their own people.

Also i wouldn't recommend playing music and singing in weddings around Gaza. Hamas has a problem with that for some reason.

hotchie motchie!

it just goes on.. and on... and on... and on....
each side swings left.. and right.. and left... and right

and people get more pissed off. soon the world is going to throw their hands in the air and just say fark the both of you.

Tatsuma: filth: They're victims of a brutal occupation fighting back the only way they can.

The origins of the movement known as Hamas go as far back as the 1936-1939 Arab revolt and began as an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Also, nothing justifies blowing yourself up in the middle of a café filled by innocents.


Do you really want to go that far back when discussing terrorism in the Mid-East? Hamas didn't blow up a hotel filled with its own people while dressed up as the enemy. Israeli terrorists did.

Also, I think that Gilad Shalit versus Hamas prisoners shows a very good example of differences between Hamas and Israel, and who has the moral highground*.

Today at the Jerusalem Post, legal experts are saying it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court will agree to the Government's demand of curtailing the rights of Hamas prisoners. What rights are we talking about?

The committee established a subcommittee made up of representatives of the Attorney-General's Office, the Israel Prisons Service, the IDF and the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), which will consider curtailing Hamas and Islamic Jihad prisoner privileges.

According to a statement put out by the Justice Ministry, the subcommittee will consider reducing the amount of money allotted the prisoners for their personal needs, reducing their television and radio rights, curtailing visitation rights, limiting their ability to study for high school diplomas or university degrees and limiting physical contact with visitors.

Sheetrit described conditions for security prisoners as "VIP summer camps" and promised that if the law prohibited worsening those conditions, he would work to change the law.

Sheetrit said that in the material he had reviewed prior to the meeting, he found that even those jailed for multiple life sentences were allowed televisions in their rooms, connection to cable broadcasts, newspapers, cell phones, meetings with family members, the Red Cross and attorneys, as well as the opportunity to earn university degrees.

Unlike what's happening right now to Shalit, they are allowed time outside, time with their family, the farking internet and cable tv, the opportunity to get University Degrees, seeing the Red Cross, attorneys, etc..

They are treated in a better way than many of Israel's poorer citizens who do not have access to some or most of these things.

Un-farking-believable.

/* I know, I know, anyone who has the smallest amount of common sense and isn't blinded by hatred and bias already knew that, but still

Thisbymaster: Tatsuma: Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher:
What part of secular don't you get?

With Tatsuma, it's usually the part about involving non-Jews.

/nice to see all the trolls and alts back on Fark
//now we just need gorgor to be able to post links again

ObscureNameHere: I Said: ObscureNameHere: I would have never thought that ground chick-peas with garlic could be so violent.

It's explosive when it goes bad

Oh,I guess so. It is just so yummy with baby carrots or breadsticks that it usually isn't sitting in the fridge long enough to go bad.

Damn you both... now I'm going to have to stop at the Lebanese market near my house on the way home and pick some up... pita bread too... Already got carrots at home.


Hummus isn't nearly as explosive as baba ganoush, in my opinion...

In before...

Oh, there he is.

/where is czarangelus, anyway?

Thisbymaster: I am sure jews will be fine being oppressed, they seem to have come out on top before. What part of secular don't you get?

Lebanon is a secular state, and look who's now part of the government.

The arabs living in the territories do not want a secular state, if they democratically vote for an Islamic one, you'll stop them from creating one?

So we can count on you to prevent them from turning us into Dhimmis if we become a minority? Gee I feel safer now, maybe we should entertain that idea.Democratic Secularist Omnivore: So what justifies the Israeli land grab and illegal occupation of the West

Well, the refusal of the partition plan, then the declaration of war in 1948, the 500 terrorist attacks and refusal to acknowledge Israel's right to exist from 1948 to 1967 and then the 1967 war.

Apik0r0s: Do you really want to go that far back when discussing terrorism in the Mid-East? Hamas didn't blow up a hotel filled with its own people while dressed up as the enemy. Israeli terrorists did.

We can start talking about the pogroms that originated before there ever was such a thing as the Irgun or the Haganah, too.

"See 'Sea of Love'!"

Kirby Muxloe: With Tatsuma, it's usually the part about involving non-Jews.

I have absolutely no problem with non-Jews living in Israel. I have a problem with Israeli citizens who want to dismantle the Jewish state.

All the Druze, Russians and Arabs who want to be part of the Jewish State are more than welcome to be part of it, and I'll more than gladly buy in their shops, share tea with them, and live in happiness and peace as neighbour.

Tatsuma

So locking someone up for throwing rocks at Israeli bulldozers is fine, as long as they have some basic amenities? How is the view from that moral high ground?

Democratic Secularist Omnivore: So locking someone up for throwing rocks at Israeli bulldozers is fine, as long as they have some basic amenities? How is the view from that moral high ground?

We're talking about Hamas members here, maybe you could bother to read a post and understand it before replying.

Tatsuma: Democratic Secularist Omnivore: So locking someone up for throwing rocks at Israeli bulldozers is fine, as long as they have some basic amenities? How is the view from that moral high ground?

We're talking about Hamas members here, maybe you could bother to read a post and understand it before replying.

Except that Israel is not holding strictly Hamas in prison. Although I am sure you would like everyone to believe so.

Gene Shalit is not human.

Interesting piece from Reuters today:

Israeli soldiers break ranks over Gaza war (new window)

"Israel's military was rocked on Thursday by Gaza war veterans' accounts of soldiers' killings of civilians and allegations that deep contempt for Palestinians pervaded its ranks.

"The soldiers, alumni of a military academy, gathered last month to discuss their experiences in the 22-day Israeli offensive that ended in January, a campaign that Palestinians and human rights groups have said warranted war crimes probes.

"Disclosing details of the session, the institution's director said the soldiers pointed to an atmosphere within the military of 'unbridled contempt for, and forcefulness against, the Palestinians.'

"'They talked about unwarranted fire on Palestinian civilians. There was also talk of vandalism to property,' Danny Zamir, head of the Yitzhak Rabin pre-military programme, told Israel Radio."

Democratic Secularist Omnivore: Except that Israel is not holding strictly Hamas in prison. Although I am sure you would like everyone to believe so.

...

What the fark is wrong with you? I'd never pretend that Israel is holding only Hamas members in prison, there are members of other factions, members who acted against the IDF on their own, etc...

I made a comparison with the way Hamas members are currently treating Shalit, and that's the best you can come up with? BMulligan: Interesting piece from Reuters today:

Not exactly interesting, seeing as many of the soldiers were reached by other newspapers for confirmation, and these soldiers said "Uh, I wasn't even in Gaza, I was talking about rumours and hearsay I heard"

Remember, Haaretz is a newspaper whose editor proudly said they lie and cover up facts in order to advance their political goals.

Anybody bring up this guy yet?

Kirby Muxloe: Thisbymaster: Tatsuma: Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher:
What part of secular don't you get?

With Tatsuma, it's usually the part about involving non-Jews.


No, no, secular is just an anti-Semitic plot to do away with the Jewish state. Because there's no possible way that anyone anywhere is simply fed up with the bullshiat from all sides.

Tatsuma: We're talking about Hamas members here, maybe you could bother to read a post and understand it before replying.

I see you're back.

As someone who has an ear close to the ground in Israel, I'm sure you'd know that lots of people work for Hamas that have nothing to do with the 'military' wing.

So they hold this guy incommunicado, not even letting the Red Cross visit him. They threaten him as part of negotiations. Both are violations of international law.
Just waiting for the Hamas cheerleaders to explain that away like the way they dismiss targeting civilians.

Thisbymaster: What part of secular don't you get?

The part where there are no "secular" states in which a majority of the citizens are Muslim.