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(The Nation) Followup New and improved Israel: Now with more racism, less peace. Goes great with popcorn   (thenation.com) divider line 144
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absoluteparanoia 2009-03-17 03:14:31 PM  
Israel is a grown-ass country. Cut them off the U.S. teat and let them fend for themselves.

imgs.xkcd.com

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 03:15:56 PM  
I've been saying that for a while. Israel has largely abandoned the peace process, and has devolved its policies to "You threw a rock, well here's a BIGGER rock."

 
HotLonelyTeenageGirl [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 03:23:46 PM  
I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.


/window seat

 
palladiate [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 03:46:51 PM  
HotLonelyTeenageGirl: I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.

Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.

 
dillenger69 [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 03:53:58 PM  
Israel is racist by its very nature.
They were founded on the idea that a god gave some land to his chosen people. That's not exactly a recipe for racial harmony if you aren't already a member of the chosen.

 
HotLonelyTeenageGirl [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 04:04:44 PM  
palladiate: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.

Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.


It's true, Lieberman does keep coming, even in the face of 12 year old boys.

 
Hollywood Cole [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 04:05:21 PM  
dillenger69: Israel is racist by its very nature.
They were founded on the idea that a god gave some land to his chosen people. That's not exactly a recipe for racial harmony if you aren't already a member of the chosen.


You should have ended that post with "..and anyone who things otherwise is a racist."

 
Instant Karma 2009-03-17 04:07:04 PM  
dillenger69: Israel is racist by its very nature.
They were founded on the idea that a god gave some land to his chosen people. That's not exactly a recipe for racial harmony if you aren't already a member of the chosen.


Well you at least have to give Jews credit for not being like the Christians and Muslims who are forever trying to convert everyone to their religion or killing them.

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 04:33:00 PM  
Instant Karma: Well you at least have to give Jews credit for not being like the Christians and Muslims who are forever trying to convert everyone to their religion or killing them.

That's because they're elitist.

 
palladiate [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 04:33:08 PM  
Instant Karma: dillenger69: Israel is racist by its very nature.
They were founded on the idea that a god gave some land to his chosen people. That's not exactly a recipe for racial harmony if you aren't already a member of the chosen.

Well you at least have to give Jews credit for not being like the Christians and Muslims who are forever trying to convert everyone to their religion or killing them.


Well, no, there are quite a few that do believe in killing anyone not Jewish, but only on a TINY strip of land.

Still, that's LEAGUES better than their alternatives, who want to do the same to everyone on the planet.

 
gorgor 2009-03-17 04:52:25 PM  
http://tinyurl.com/deyn3k (cut and paste biatches)

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 04:55:17 PM  

From

Israeli ambassador to Washington resigns
"The bigger story of Sallai resigning may portend that he wants to get out of the ship before the hurricane hits," said one Washington Middle East policy analyst informed of the news. "I think that these are two governments on a collision course."

"You have an American administration which for the first time in eight years wants to accelerate the peace process, while in Israel you have a new administration that wants to turn it around," he added. "That's a sure-fire formula for collision."
to
Uzi Arad, who will become Netanyahu's national security adviser. Arad, a long-time member of the Mossad, Israel's spy agency, was also mixed up in the spy scandal that involved two former officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committe, Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, and a Pentagon official, Larry Franklin. (Rosen, who was charged with leaking classified information in the scandal, is the blogger who led the onslaught that killed the appointment of Chas Freeman to head the National Intelligence Council.) The center of that scandal involving Franklin's alleged passing of secret US plans about Iran to officials from AIPAC and the Israeli embassy.
to this choad
Avigdor Lieberman, a populist Israeli politician frequently compared to Austria's Jörg Haider and France's Jean-Marie le Pen, proposed to bus thousands of Palestinians to the Dead Sea and drown them there, he was just a fringe member of government.
'Interesting' times are ahead.

 
absoluteparanoia 2009-03-17 04:56:51 PM  
gorgor: http://tinyurl.com/deyn3k (cut and paste biatches)

uh no thanks

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 05:02:21 PM  
More older stuff on Lieberman, here.
(2006 thread was dead since everyone was in some other thread talking about a guy farking a dead dog. yuk.

 
gorgor 2009-03-17 05:04:28 PM  
hillbillypharmacist: That's because they're elitist.

Or "special"

http://tinyurl.com/dlvtxc (cut and paste biatches)

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 05:07:34 PM  
palladiate: Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.


You know, if anyone except an Israeli minister said that, he'd be internationally denounced and disgraced.

Party Boy: 'Interesting' times are ahead.

I'm hoping Israel will be held accountable for the first time ever for its actions.

 
Hollywood Cole [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 05:07:48 PM  
Party Boy: More older stuff on Lieberman, here.
(2006 thread was dead since everyone was in some other thread talking about a guy farking a dead dog. yuk.


I remember that thread. Wasn't he like across the street from a daycare or a school or something while farking the dead dog?

Ahhh memories.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 05:08:36 PM  
gorgor: http://tinyurl.com/dlvtxc (cut and paste biatches)

So desperate to post pointless images that aren't funny you've turned to just posting the links since your HTML is still gone?

 
itazurakko [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 05:28:16 PM  
Party Boy: Avigdor Lieberman, a populist Israeli politician frequently compared to Austria's Jörg Haider and France's Jean-Marie le Pen, proposed to bus thousands of Palestinians to the Dead Sea and drown them there, he was just a fringe member of government.

Avigdor the Burninator? :D

I know it's not really relevant to the thread or anything in particular but somehow I can't help but think of Trogdor just due to the spelling, for a while now...

During the election I know there was some rancor in some circles (not fans of his) about how he goes on about Israel is our home, but he immigrated (which to be fair to him, he says is he point).

 
gorgor 2009-03-17 05:34:03 PM  
GAT_00: You sound fat.

 
rcain [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 06:32:50 PM  
Where's Tatsuma? This thread need some sanctimonious lecturing on how the Israeli's are so misunderstood and are actually just innocent victims in this whole middle east thing.

 
rcain [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 06:42:43 PM  
gorgor: hillbillypharmacist: That's because they're elitist.

Or "special"

http://tinyurl.com/dlvtxc (cut and paste biatches)


Here you go gorgor:

img23.imageshack.us
/special indeed

 
gorgor 2009-03-17 06:44:47 PM  
rcain: Here you go gorgor:

/special indeed


:)

 
Nemo's Brother 2009-03-17 07:08:32 PM  
HotLonelyTeenageGirl: palladiate: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.

Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.

It's true, Lieberman does keep coming, even in the face of 12 year old boys.


The racism in the left is sickening.

 
Riche [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:12:53 PM  
CIA Predicts Israel will collapse in 20 years


Kind of like the Soviet Union and apartheid South Africa.



/Into the dustbin of history, where any racist state belongs.

 
ScreamingHangover 2009-03-17 07:18:13 PM  
Riche: CIA Predicts Israel will collapse in 20 years

Kind of like the Soviet Union and apartheid South Africa.



The CIA failed to predict both the end of the Soviet Union and the end of Apartheid in Africa (along with 9/11, non nukes in Iraq, etc...)


Your link is probably the best proof Israel is going to be around for a while.

 
Hetfield 2009-03-17 07:19:36 PM  
Nemo's Brother: The racism in the left is sickening.

Do you feel Lieberman is being treated unfairly in this thread?

 
satanicsantoku 2009-03-17 07:21:10 PM  
farking israel. i hate that my tax dollars go to apartheid.
/without the US giving them discount weapons and tons of aid, the state couldn't exist as it does today.

 
CynicalLA 2009-03-17 07:21:39 PM  
Nemo's Brother: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: palladiate: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.

Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.

It's true, Lieberman does keep coming, even in the face of 12 year old boys.

The racism in the left is sickening.


No, Lieberman is a neo-con when it comes to Israel.

 
CynicalLA 2009-03-17 07:23:19 PM  
Duh, I was thinking of the wrong Lieberman. I should RTFA.

 
Rapmaster2000 2009-03-17 07:26:11 PM  
Israel is the best place to be if you're a Jew... unless you're an Ethiopian or Eritrean Jew. Then you're better off in the US.

 
Murkanen 2009-03-17 07:27:19 PM  
Nemo's Brother: The racism in the left is sickening.

Criticizing and/or mocking a person for their publically aired opinion isn't racism. Please learn the meaning of words before you use them or might find yourself being laughed out of just about very conversation you attempt to join.

 
RemyDuron 2009-03-17 07:27:20 PM  
Nemo's Brother: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: palladiate: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: I've been saying for quite awhile that we need some sort of final solution to the problem of peace in the middle east.

Lieberman, who's going to take the foreign minister seat, is ALL ABOUT forcibly removing all Arabs and Christians from Israel, and killing every single Palestinian, and has said so quite a few times (new window).

And he doesn't let 12-year-old boys stop him.

It's true, Lieberman does keep coming, even in the face of 12 year old boys.

The racism in the left is sickening.


. . .

Are you calling us racist for calling a racist like Lieberman racist, or making a joke about the fascist Israeli Lieberman having the same name as the hawkish democrat Lieberman in the US?

 
NotLinky 2009-03-17 07:27:36 PM  
Evil racist Israelis:

onejerusalem.com

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:27:48 PM  
The first time something goes sour for them, the Lieberman Youth will act.

Good luck with all that.

 
RemyDuron 2009-03-17 07:28:43 PM  
CynicalLA: No, Lieberman is a neo-con when it comes to Israel.

The American Lieberman is a hawkish, conservative democrat, the Israeli Lieberman is far more than a neo-con, he's pretty much an unapologetic fascist who wants to make arab citizens of Israel even more second class citizens than they all ready are.

 
RemyDuron 2009-03-17 07:29:22 PM  
NotLinky: Evil racist Israelis:

Must. Not. Godwin. Thread. With. Hot. Nazis. . .

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:30:05 PM  
As much I want to be outraged over this, I really can't muster any up. At least on the Israeli side, it's a functioning democracy with political parties of different stripes. It's freer than any Islamic government that I know of.

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:33:06 PM  
absoluteparanoia: Israel is a grown-ass country. Cut them off the U.S. teat and let them fend for themselves.


Tatsuma will tell you that they're earning their keep because they invented Velcro or something. Wait no that's NASA. Well they gave us some technology that justifies the 3 trillion a year and all the terrorism.

 
CynicalLA 2009-03-17 07:33:10 PM  
RemyDuron: CynicalLA: No, Lieberman is a neo-con when it comes to Israel.

The American Lieberman is a hawkish, conservative democrat, the Israeli Lieberman is far more than a neo-con, he's pretty much an unapologetic fascist who wants to make arab citizens of Israel even more second class citizens than they all ready are.


Thanks, I just started reading a little bit out the guy. It seems the Israelis want a far right government. There definitely will not be peace in the middle east.

 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf 2009-03-17 07:33:46 PM  
Funny how a lot of people who want to stop all of America's foreign aid programs always consider Israel the exception.

 
generaltimmy 2009-03-17 07:34:43 PM  
GAT_00: I've been saying that for a while. Israel has largely abandoned the peace process, and has devolved its policies to "You threw a rock, well here's a BIGGER rock."

problem? Don't they largely look alike (israelis and Palestinians)?

 
CynicalLA 2009-03-17 07:35:31 PM  
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Funny how a lot of people who want to stop all of America's foreign aid programs always consider Israel the exception.

It's the same people who hate government spending, but love military spending.

 
deadapostle [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:35:55 PM  
The other day, I stumbled across an article (new window) about an American who was critically injured by Israeli soldiers as they were invading a Palestinian settlement. An Israeli soldier shot him in the face with a gas grenade, exposing gray matter.

The next day, I went out to get my newspaper and found an additional item. It was a magazine from El Al advertising trips to Israel. I tore it in half and threw it out, and thought about how some may take my feelings toward Israel at that moment as having been anti-semitic. Of course, I have no ill will toward Judaism, nor do I have a problem with Jewish people. I am opposed to the government of Israel, however. It will be a cold day in hell before I go there.

 
davemelnick 2009-03-17 07:39:11 PM  
As Stephen King says in his books: SSDD -Same shiat Different Day. Israel & the rest of the mid-east is up shiat creek w/ out a paddle.

 
soy_bomb 2009-03-17 07:39:21 PM  
This thread needs IDF Women:
img140.imageshack.us

 
StoneColdAtheist 2009-03-17 07:40:00 PM  
GAT_00: I've been saying that for a while. Israel has largely abandoned the peace process, and has devolved its policies to "You threw a rock, well here's a BIGGER rock."

From a military perspective the "BIGGER rock" policy has been very effective for Israel, and if they stick with it they will win. That appears to be the course Netanyahu intends to pursue, and Lieberman is just necessary baggage.

 
Riche [TotalFark] 2009-03-17 07:40:06 PM  
ScreamingHangover: The CIA failed to predict both the end of the Soviet Union and the end of Apartheid in Africa (along with 9/11, non nukes in Iraq, etc...)

I was comparing Israel's collapse to the collapse of those other fundamentally flawed states-- not the CIA's predictions, or lack thereof.


===================================================================

There are some interesting arguments to support the guess that Israel as we know it simply cannot last. The biggest one being demographics.

Israel's only real hope for survival is to go "Old Testament" on just about every non-jew in its borders, Gaza, and the West Bank.

While much of the stuff Israelis do to the Palestinians do is horrific, I simply don't see Israel bringing herself to do the sort of things Hitler did-- even if it means national survival.

In the end, they'll be another diaspora because, let's face it, when the Palestinians take back over they're not going to have ANY of those moral reservations holding them back from mass murder.

The U.S. will receive many of the displaced Israelis-- a good thing for America, despite the upcoming generations of Zionist whining we'll have to put up with.


/When things fall apart I sure hope the Palis don't get a hold of Israel's nuke stockpile

 
soy_bomb 2009-03-17 07:41:58 PM  
img152.imageshack.us
If this is infidel, I don't want to be fidel.

/IDF FTW!

 
CynicalLA 2009-03-17 07:43:35 PM  
soy_bomb: This thread needs IDF Women:

I think the IDF women are hot and all, but it seems you guys post those pics for a reason. Who could hate the lovely IDF girls?

 
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