I don't see how this is spiffy. Sterilization can't cost more than euthanization for the unwanted dogs and cats that will result from the fertile pets.

RodneyToady: I don't see how this is spiffy. Sterilization can't cost more than euthanization for the unwanted dogs and cats that will result from the fertile pets.

You have any idea what an autoclave does to your power bills?

How is this "spiffy" exactly?

Spiffy cos stupid celebs will be neutered rather than pets?
/not subby

Oh please, Oh please, Oh please......

Where did LA get the authority to make people neuter their animals ? Is the government's power infinite ?

/guessing spiffy is meant to be ironic

More Chinse food buffys and no more cats and dogs on the street.
THERES A CAT IN THE KETTLE

Can't animal rescue organizations help pick up the tab? When a stray cat adopted us a few years ago the SPCA paid for part of the spay surgery--we only paid $30.

Man, Bob Barker's gonna be pissed.

Apparently the government's power IS infinite. Here in Rhode Island you legally have to neuter your cat/dog if you don't have a breeding license, or else you pay a fine monthly until you do one or the other. But it's a joke law; it's thoroughly unenforceable.

Why do you have a right to own a filthy animal in the city and lock it up in a tiny apartment? You people should be charged every penny it takes to capture them, manage them, etc via a special tax the rest of us shouldnt have to pay. Pet owners license is the way to do this. Say $500 a year. Make it a felony not to have one. Suddenly, you cant set that dog or cat free when youre bored with it and you cant buy one on a whim.

Like animals? Live on a farm.

They can make you sterilize your pets? What the fark country do they think they live in?

Holy hell, they are losing their minds out there.

Greenville: Man, Bob Barker's gonna be pissed.

Damn im 4 minutes late

CruJones: They can make you sterilize your pets? What the fark country do they think they live in?

Holy hell, they are losing their minds out there.

Well people barely take responsibility for themselves, and yet we allow these people to have pets.

Honestly, shoot the strays. Charge the owners for the bullet and disposal.

LA must obey the Great Bob

DAMN YOU, SUBBY!!!

You got my hopes up and then dashed them upon the rocks like little kittens...

New plans for the weekend!

/jk

meat0918


Well people barely take responsibility for themselves, and yet we allow these people to have children pets.


FTFY.

FarkinHostile: meat0918


Well people barely take responsibility for themselves, and yet we allow these people to have children pets.


FTFY.

this.

1 dog, no kids.

i like it that way.

It is too bad that they are unable to continue this low cost service (although, if you cannot afford to have your dog/cat fixed you really cannot afford a pet)

Volunteer at an animal shelter (like I do) then come back and tell me what a great idea it is to have unneutered/unspayed pets.

spiffy?
nothing is more annoying than stray cats

Bestbank Tiger: Can't animal rescue organizations help pick up the tab? When a stray cat adopted us a few years ago the SPCA paid for part of the spay surgery--we only paid $30.

I'm part of a grassroots pet rescue network for the southwest and the money is donations or from those who foster the animals. Just recently I had a kitten spayed and the discounted fee was $80 but if I wanted the cat to have pain meds, blood work for other diseases, etc the total came out to be $300.

The rescue organizations would love to be able to help but many are living on a shoestring budget as it is. We network with other agencies from southern CA to Northern to AZ and NV. We have some volunteers who drive hundreds of miles to get the animals to the new owners. Sometimes there is compensation, sometimes not.

Some of the stories of the living conditions these animals go through is enough to want to put a bullet in the owners rather than the pet.

Right now there is a 4 year old yellow lab who is looking for a home since the owner is currently in a hospice and has just a little longer to live.

This is great. I have a long list of celebutwits I would like to see neutralized. I will, however, settle for having them spayed, or hit with a spade.

I don't know who was the dog in the situation Paris or Tinkerbell.

You know who else wanted to forcibly sterilize cats?

www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com

/Can't believe it had to be me
//Happy Caturday

otterly_delicious: Bestbank Tiger: Can't animal rescue organizations help pick up the tab? When a stray cat adopted us a few years ago the SPCA paid for part of the spay surgery--we only paid $30.

I'm part of a grassroots pet rescue network for the southwest and the money is donations or from those who foster the animals. Just recently I had a kitten spayed and the discounted fee was $80 but if I wanted the cat to have pain meds, blood work for other diseases, etc the total came out to be $300.

The rescue organizations would love to be able to help but many are living on a shoestring budget as it is. We network with other agencies from southern CA to Northern to AZ and NV. We have some volunteers who drive hundreds of miles to get the animals to the new owners. Sometimes there is compensation, sometimes not.

Some of the stories of the living conditions these animals go through is enough to want to put a bullet in the owners rather than the pet.

Right now there is a 4 year old yellow lab who is looking for a home since the owner is currently in a hospice and has just a little longer to live.

Wow. It's a lot cheaper in my neck of the woods. I got both my beagles (brother and sister) fixed at market rate in New Orleans and it wasn't that bad.

I think in the cat's case the vet is giving the SPCA a discount.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" -- Gandhi

Starting with the Baldwins?

The subsidies were offered under an ordinance that requires most dogs and cats to be spayed or neutered by the time they are four months old.

So the law says prior to four months? Isn't that a bit young? I just got my pup back from her spay today and my vet wouldn't even consider it till she was 6 months old. Even the earliest recommendations I've seen for the surgery falls within 4-5 months, with most recommending 6. He said I probably could have pushed to 8 and still been before her first heat, but since there is a male in the house and I didn't want an accidental litter of inbred retard puppies, I had it done earlier.

Her brother's balls hadn't even fully descended at four months. They'd have had to go in and dig 'em out. The doc recommended him closer to 7 or 8 to give him more time to develop.

dumbmitter: LA ends pet sterilzation program, is considering shifting their its focus from pets to stupid celebrities

/sterilized pet peeve. carry on

Should shift it to Democrats who were too stupid to place this Obamanation into the Whitehouse.

The animals are fine, the people need sterilization. Worldwide.

cherryl taggart

This is great. I have a long list of celebutwits I would like to see neutralized. I will, however, settle for having them spayed, or hit with a spade.



"You rang?"

Maybe an abstinence only program for pets would solve all programs.

I know lots of people have said it already, but I see no way in which this is "spiffy." There is no reason not to spay or neuter your pets, unless you are running a breeding operation. There are ridiculous amounts of homeless pets out there! My ex-boyfriend's family had two Newfoundlands, a male and female, neither of them fixed, and they were awful and rambunctious, and of course periodically the boy had to be locked up in the garage to discourage him from mating with the girl, while she was wearing doggie-diapers. It just seems so not worth it.

Mongo cut wood: Should shift it to Democrats who were too stupid to place this Obamanation into the Whitehouse.

Not only is it weak, even for a troll, it doesn't even make sense. How can democrats be too stupid to do something successfully? 0/10, troll.

Real reason it failed: There are so many cats & dogs running around LA, there's almost no way to tell which are pets, which are strays, and which are mutant crossbreed coyo-dogs and bob-kitties. Add to that the myriad cities, unincorporated areas and bizarre borders of "Los Angeles" and there's just no way to enforce this.
"Quick, is that your cat? Get it spayed!"
"Which cat?"
"The little black one."
"Which of the seventeen little black ones are you talking about?"

I myself would much rather support the forcible sterilization of deranged celebrities like Britney and the Octomom; and the forcible lobotomization of Octomom's fertility doc.

"No sterilization? We gotta nip this in the bud."

At least celebrities can afford their children. How about temporarily sterilizing anyone making less than 30 grand a year? Seriously.


/hates to say it, but octomom is kinda hot. i'd hit it, anyway. well, not really. but still.

Most celebrities don't have a ton of children.

They adopt (the ones with tons of them).

Spay the poor!

/ducks

Gyrfalcon: Real reason it failed: There are so many cats & dogs running around LA, there's almost no way to tell which are pets, which are strays, and which are mutant crossbreed coyo-dogs and bob-kitties. Add to that the myriad cities, unincorporated areas and bizarre borders of "Los Angeles" and there's just no way to enforce this.
"Quick, is that your cat? Get it spayed!"
"Which cat?"
"The little black one."
"Which of the seventeen little black ones are you talking about?"

I myself would much rather support the forcible sterilization of deranged celebrities like Britney and the Octomom; and the forcible lobotomization of Octomom's fertility doc.

Seconded, with the addition of a vacuum that sucks out both his ill-gotten gains and her collagen..

Lamune_Baba: The subsidies were offered under an ordinance that requires most dogs and cats to be spayed or neutered by the time they are four months old.

So the law says prior to four months? Isn't that a bit young? I just got my pup back from her spay today and my vet wouldn't even consider it till she was 6 months old. Even the earliest recommendations I've seen for the surgery falls within 4-5 months, with most recommending 6. He said I probably could have pushed to 8 and still been before her first heat, but since there is a male in the house and I didn't want an accidental litter of inbred retard puppies, I had it done earlier.

Her brother's balls hadn't even fully descended at four months. They'd have had to go in and dig 'em out. The doc recommended him closer to 7 or 8 to give him more time to develop.

Your vet is old fashioned. My humane organization has kittens and puppies altered at about 8 weeks, or 2 lbs body weight for kittens. I've got a couple from the last litter I fostered sitting on my lap right now. These are staying here until their adopter comes here from TX to get them at the end of the month. They are totally ready to go. Their siblings and mother are already adopted.

How is this spiffy? LA requires sterilization of pets by the time they were 4 months of age or older and the free sterilization program was in place to help those who couldn't afford to pay on their own. Shutting down the free program will not only increase the pet population, but penalize people for being too poor to get their pet spayed or neutered.

robohobo: At least celebrities can afford their children. How about temporarily sterilizing anyone making less than 30 grand a year? Seriously.


/hates to say it, but octomom is kinda hot. i'd hit it, anyway. well, not really. but still.

My parents raised two kids on less than 30k a year. They were just more cautious about money than a lot of folks, but we always had what we needed. This was in LA, as in Louisiana, though. I doubt it would be possible to live on 30k in Los Angeles.

"Can't afford it? Don't have a pet!"

That's Peta & HSUS BS.

The elimination of the low-cost means that private vets do it. And not for free, either. The local vets want $200 to $500 to spay a healthy biatch. So--pay the rent, or fix the dog? Great if you're rich, bad if you're everyone else.

If you want to breed your dog, it's a $500 license plus $125 litter fee PLUS you MUST provide the county with full contact information about all puppy buyers.

PEta tards like Pam Anderson & such helped force this through. Extra animals die? The law wasn't strict enough. Just ban animals. That's what they're pushing for.

As far as I know, most of the shelters in the Portland, OR area will not send home any animal with an adopter until the animal has been spayed or neutered. I know the Humane Society used to send home un-fixed animals with a coupon for the spay or neuter, but too many people will just not make the appointment, so now it's taken care of before you are allowed to take the animal home.

While I applaud the sentiment behind the law, it seems that it is completely unenforceable.

And contrary to the headline from subby, they're not ending the sterilization program, they're ending the cost reduction they had in place to help out. The law is still in effect.

Danny Glover - The Celebrity STFU Poster Boy

Lamune_Baba: The subsidies were offered under an ordinance that requires most dogs and cats to be spayed or neutered by the time they are four months old.

So the law says prior to four months? Isn't that a bit young? I just got my pup back from her spay today and my vet wouldn't even consider it till she was 6 months old. Even the earliest recommendations I've seen for the surgery falls within 4-5 months, with most recommending 6. He said I probably could have pushed to 8 and still been before her first heat, but since there is a male in the house and I didn't want an accidental litter of inbred retard puppies, I had it done earlier.

Her brother's balls hadn't even fully descended at four months. They'd have had to go in and dig 'em out. The doc recommended him closer to 7 or 8 to give him more time to develop.

No. That sort of recommendation is the sign of outdated training usually. Cats can quite often be pregnant around 4 months. Spay/neuter can be done as early as 6 weeks, and usually is recommended earlier than 4 months as it tends to lead to far less complications and a better recovery.
However, many vets still rely on older techniques and recommendations. Many people also still want to believe their pet must be older - some even hold on to a belief they must have a heat or even a litter first. It is worth looking around in your area and asking what exactly they base their recommendations on - experience, equipment? Of course, you don't want them to try something they've not learned - but it's a good sign to start asking around.

I'm more appalled that there was a mandatory law for spay/neuter. I'm all for reducing the number of euthanizations, but for someone else to tell me what to do with my pet who is under my responsibility is just stupid. Talk about a Nanny-State...it's just a bunch of people who think they know what's better for you.

Pets can live just fine with their reproductive organs, but I find that most people don't have the responsibility enough with them to let them stay intact. If someone have an intact dog or biatch, there is a lot more they have to do as a pet owner than just let it live as if it were fixed. This is the most common reason why we have so many unwanted animals...people think they'll just let the female (in heat!) outside in a fenced-in yard to potty and OOPS...caught through the fence! Then again, anything here with working reproductive organs is "good breeding qiality" anyway to some people. This is where I can see the good side to mandatory spay/neutering, but again, it screams hypocrisy to those who actually do train and properly care for their animals, intact or not.

And then there are the people who complain to me that their male dog keeps lifting his leg in the house; my first question is "Is he neutered?" and the response is "No."

Idiots all around me! HALP