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ragekage [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 09:18:15 AM  
Duh. Isn't that why people want to be Congresscritters?

 
Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach 2009-03-14 09:54:09 AM  
ragekage: Duh. Isn't that why people want to be Congresscritters?

That and the pay raises. Healthcare for life and pension. Oooh! And the payouts! Do not forget the illegal payouts!

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 09:59:53 AM  
Congress is accustomed to spending money, which it gladly did when Obama asked.

At a closed-door briefing of the House Democratic Caucus on Thursday, lawmakers asked Orszag to justify the Obama proposals to curb mortgage interest deductions for upper-income people and to reduce farm subsidies-two of the most sacred cows in Washington.

Repeal the mortgage interest deduction for all people, even reliable Democrat voters.

Change farm subsidies to price insurance.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2009-03-14 10:00:32 AM  
Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: That and the pay raises. Healthcare for life and pension. Oooh! And the payouts! Do not forget the illegal payouts!

and the legal junkets to aruba and the bahamas.

 
southern78 2009-03-14 10:02:12 AM  
Congress surely never misses the chance to vote themselves a pay raise though. Phew..glad they are on top of that.

/Don't call me Shirley

 
Shadowknight [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:03:20 AM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: That and the pay raises. Healthcare for life and pension. Oooh! And the payouts! Do not forget the illegal payouts!

and the legal junkets to aruba and the bahamas.

I do love how they can't seem to just rent a conference room at the Holiday Inn for meetings and conferences like the rest of us. They have to go to Cancun or Hawaii, because their business is so important and vital it's the only way they can get people to show up.

 
planes 2009-03-14 10:05:12 AM  
If I was Obama, at my next press conference or weekly radio address, I'd NAME the pricks in Congress that are trying to show me who the boss is. Let the American people put some pressure on these self-righteous jackasses.

 
John Buck 41 2009-03-14 10:06:30 AM  
The House of Representatives and the Senate do far more damage to this country than whoever's living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, no matter what party he belongs to. Anyone who can't see that is blind.

 
Digitalstrange 2009-03-14 10:06:41 AM  
Great, so Obama tries to do too much at once and thats someone elses fault? Congress is the same organization it's always been, and its even one thats tilted to his end of the spectrum and he still cant work with them?

I know i'll be dismissed a Whargarble but thats Obamas faliure to do his job.

 
CruJones 2009-03-14 10:08:47 AM  
ZAZ: Congress is accustomed to spending money, which it gladly did when Obama asked.

At a closed-door briefing of the House Democratic Caucus on Thursday, lawmakers asked Orszag to justify the Obama proposals to curb mortgage interest deductions for upper-income people and to reduce farm subsidies-two of the most sacred cows in Washington.

Repeal the mortgage interest deduction for all people, even reliable Democrat voters.

Change farm subsidies to price insurance.

Repealing the interest deduction would completely crash the housing market. Much more so than has already happened, plus force a lot of the people who have actually have been paying on time to default. That's one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard.

 
Uncle Bester 2009-03-14 10:11:27 AM  
Digitalstrange: Great, so Obama tries to do too much at once and thats someone elses fault? Congress is the same organization it's always been, and its even one thats tilted to his end of the spectrum and he still cant work with them?

I know i'll be dismissed a Whargarble but thats Obamas faliure to do his job.

Notice that Obama is in 'tactical retreat' about certain things, such as the earmarks.
Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:12:35 AM  
planes: If I was Obama, at my next press conference or weekly radio address, I'd NAME the pricks in Congress that are trying to show me who the boss is. Let the American people put some pressure on these self-righteous jackasses.

Heh, you've maybe unwittingly resurrected, in a different guise, one of my favourite campaign promises from McCain last year, where he promised to name everyone who had submitted earmarks as if that information wasn't widely available.

You will know their names! You will know their names!

 
skinink 2009-03-14 10:12:43 AM  

I laughed at Bill O'Reilly's opening segment last night when he said Obama's popularity is lower than Bush's at the same point in their Presidency, so Obama is already becoming unpopular. Jeebus, Obama's only been in office less than two months.


Then O'Reilly followed that up with the accusation of a Secret Liberal Cabal meeting held at 8:45am every day. Part of the meeting was to identify enemies of the Obama White House, and punish those enemies accordingly. Well it's not like Dubya ever had a list of favored and not favored media people, right?


Then Bill followed up all these wild and unconfirmed accusations by having Karl Rove give commentary. That's when I switched channels, because if there's anyone who's less qualified to complain about political dirty tricks, that would be Rove.


 
torquestripe 2009-03-14 10:12:46 AM  
Digitalstrange: Great, so Obama tries to do too much at once and thats someone elses fault? Congress is the same organization it's always been, and its even one thats tilted to his end of the spectrum and he still cant work with them?

I know i'll be dismissed a Whargarble but thats Obamas faliure to do his job.

These threads aren't here for people to make sensible posts.
They are here for extremist voices to drown out that crap.
You have to leave now!

 
Cainn 2009-03-14 10:13:29 AM  
+1 to subby
Headline made me giggle like a school girl.

/not a school girl
//giggity

 
Obdicut [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:14:16 AM  
Digitalstrange: Great, so Obama tries to do too much at once and thats someone elses fault? Congress is the same organization it's always been, and its even one thats tilted to his end of the spectrum and he still cant work with them?

I know i'll be dismissed a Whargarble but thats Obamas faliure to do his job

You're begging the question. Why is it 'too much'? If it's 'too much' just because Congress won't do it, then you're simply deciding that Congress is right. And that, my friend, is not a place you generally want to be.

 
Ball Sack Obama 2009-03-14 10:14:39 AM  
Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

 
DirkValentine 2009-03-14 10:17:13 AM  
It sounds to me like the same old, tired bullshiat.

Obama is serious about his job. There is no question about that. Only time will tell if all his policies work. I think they will. He's been planning this shiat for a while and doing it meticulously.

I like Obama and am proud that I voted for someone that is trying to do the farking job they were elected to do.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:17:21 AM  
Hold on now. I thought he was just an empty suit with no ideas and no plan and no clue what he is doing.

 
Hat Madder 2009-03-14 10:18:42 AM  
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) asked why the leadership was having a hard time corralling Democratic votes for a bankruptcy bill. According to one person at the meeting, a Democrat from a swing district replied: "Speaking for many, I was not elected to be a partisan Democrat."

I wish I could have seen her face when he said that. She probably stood up and tried to turn him into a toad.

 
Hugh2d2 2009-03-14 10:18:43 AM  
What's the difference between Congress and the Special Olympics?

Medals.

 
Uncle Bester 2009-03-14 10:18:59 AM  
Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

LOLWUT

 
ghare 2009-03-14 10:19:09 AM  
ZAZ: Congress is accustomed to spending money, which it gladly did when Obama asked.

At a closed-door briefing of the House Democratic Caucus on Thursday, lawmakers asked Orszag to justify the Obama proposals to curb mortgage interest deductions for upper-income people and to reduce farm subsidies-two of the most sacred cows in Washington.

Repeal the mortgage interest deduction for all people, even reliable Democrat voters.

Change farm subsidies to price insurance.

Nah, just cap it at say $150k home value, after that you're on your own. Everybody gets that first 150k.

Farm subsidies need to just be killed.

 
ghare 2009-03-14 10:20:28 AM  
Uncle Bester: Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

LOLWUT

I'll interpret it for you: WHAAAARRGGAARRBLLL! Me HATE Demoncraps! Democraps BAD! Republicans Always Blameless!

 
Fizpez [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:21:15 AM  
Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

The D's have massive majorities in both houses - to the point where they don't even need the support of every single one of their more conservative members to pass a bill on anything that doesn't require a 2/3rds vote.

You can say basically anything you want about the R's right now - from their stupid infighting to their moronic selection of certain people as "leaders" - but if nothing gets done in this legislative session, or if the "wrong" things happen and turn out to be bad ideas, there is absolutely no one to blame but the D's - they have all the power right now and they know it. I remains to be seen what becomes of it.

 
Abox 2009-03-14 10:22:13 AM  
Ball Sack Obama:
B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.


I don't think anyone's forgotten.

 
Uncle Bester 2009-03-14 10:22:36 AM  
Hat Madder: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) asked why the leadership was having a hard time corralling Democratic votes for a bankruptcy bill. According to one person at the meeting, a Democrat from a swing district replied: "Speaking for many, I was not elected to be a partisan Democrat."

I wish I could have seen her face when he said that. She probably stood up and tried to turn him into a toad.

She probably tried to burn him down with her deathray eyeballs.

 
j0ndas 2009-03-14 10:24:32 AM  
The less that gets done, the better, considering the agenda involves spending money like a drunken sailor AND damaging the economy at the same time.

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:25:12 AM  
Tort reform! And ban religion! And cap everyone's income at 5 times minimum wage! And bring back the Fairness Doctrine!

 
Uncle Bester 2009-03-14 10:26:07 AM  
Fizpez: Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

The D's have massive majorities in both houses - to the point where they don't even need the support of every single one of their more conservative members to pass a bill on anything that doesn't require a 2/3rds vote.

You can say basically anything you want about the R's right now - from their stupid infighting to their moronic selection of certain people as "leaders" - but if nothing gets done in this legislative session, or if the "wrong" things happen and turn out to be bad ideas, there is absolutely no one to blame but the D's - they have all the power right now and they know it. I remains to be seen what becomes of it.

While the Ds don't have 'massive' majorities in either house, they have enough to get shiat done unless they cave to 'OMFG filibuster' threats from the Rs.

 
lhinds 2009-03-14 10:29:12 AM  
tonesskin: Tort reform! And ban religion! And cap everyone's income at 5 times minimum wage! And bring back the Fairness Doctrine!

Yeah, that'll work.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:30:45 AM  
j0ndas: The less that gets done, the better, considering the agenda involves spending money like a drunken sailor AND damaging the economy at the same time.

Yes, you're right. We would all be much better off if he would just get a massive tax cut for the rich passed and then went and cleared some brush for a few weeks.

 
lhinds 2009-03-14 10:32:02 AM  
Uncle Bester: Fizpez: Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

The D's have massive majorities in both houses - to the point where they don't even need the support of every single one of their more conservative members to pass a bill on anything that doesn't require a 2/3rds vote.

You can say basically anything you want about the R's right now - from their stupid infighting to their moronic selection of certain people as "leaders" - but if nothing gets done in this legislative session, or if the "wrong" things happen and turn out to be bad ideas, there is absolutely no one to blame but the D's - they have all the power right now and they know it. I remains to be seen what becomes of it.

While the Ds don't have 'massive' majorities in either house, they have enough to get shiat done unless they cave to 'OMFG filibuster' threats from the Rs.


There are enough GOP senators from the Northeast that will gladly provide the necessary votes to push through the Democratic agenda. Do not fret Dems its all good for you legislatively speaking at present.

 
netcentric 2009-03-14 10:33:56 AM  
Obama's agenda may prove too much for Congress, which is much more accustomed to sitting on its collective lazy ass and doing jack shiat all day


That may be what the economy needs. Less action by government, let business make the corrections. You know, if O can just defer even getting his admin in place for another 8 months (he seems like he could anyways) the 'recovery' might just take place on its own.

The bad business's go down, the strong survive. Get away from these crutches.

It's too late for the giant globs of pork that Pelosi needed to get shipped to her friends. That money is gone... now just let Congress go on break for a year.
Obama will get outfitted for a new sized teleprompter which may take a year... for the new technology that actually just speaks for him, while moving his lips to the beat. He does pretty bad when not in front of one....

O go to Hawaii for a long time.

Congress go back to sleep, the money is spent. You maxed nations credit cards.

/O - its really bad. It's horrible
// O - fplip-flop...it's not so bad. Think positive dude

 
eggrolls [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:34:05 AM  
Set their offices on fire.

Chase them through the halls of Congress with dogs.

Throw things at them.

Hey, Congress! GET OFF YOUR ASSES!

 
Fizpez [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:34:33 AM  
Uncle Bester: Fizpez: Ball Sack Obama: Uncle Bester: Of course now he gets blamed for breaking a campaign promise by signing an earmark laden bill into law, when it was done as a compromise for these twits in congress (Dems and Repubs included).

B...b...b...but the Republicans!

Remember they're all retarded and stuff.

Obama only did what he was told to do... and it was on the teleprompter.

The D's have massive majorities in both houses - to the point where they don't even need the support of every single one of their more conservative members to pass a bill on anything that doesn't require a 2/3rds vote.

You can say basically anything you want about the R's right now - from their stupid infighting to their moronic selection of certain people as "leaders" - but if nothing gets done in this legislative session, or if the "wrong" things happen and turn out to be bad ideas, there is absolutely no one to blame but the D's - they have all the power right now and they know it. I remains to be seen what becomes of it.

While the Ds don't have 'massive' majorities in either house, they have enough to get shiat done unless they cave to 'OMFG filibuster' threats from the Rs.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but their majorities are WAY larger than when the R's had both houses - the senate by, what, one vote? And yet somehow the R's managed to "ram legislation down the throats of..."

I guess my basic point is this - if everything that happened in the last 8 years is Bush's fault, even when he didnt have voting majorities in Congress, then now its the D's turn. Time to behave like grown ups, because it is going to be very hard to sell the idea to the public that anything that happens legislatively from January on isnt their "fault" if it turns out shiatty.

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:35:18 AM  
lhinds: tonesskin: Tort reform! And ban religion! And cap everyone's income at 5 times minimum wage! And bring back the Fairness Doctrine!

Yeah, that'll work.

Oh, what is your plan, wiseass? How is it better than my plan?

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-03-14 10:36:22 AM  
Obama did say he want's to "REMAKE" America not "REBUILD" it

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:37:37 AM  
I love how the Republicans are talking about Obama not speaking well and how we're spending too much money. Talk about the pot and the farking kettle. Your balls have to have been seen chasing Indiana Jones to suggest those things in light of the last 8 years.

 
jcooli09 2009-03-14 10:37:39 AM  
bobbette: planes: If I was Obama, at my next press conference or weekly radio address, I'd NAME the pricks in Congress that are trying to show me who the boss is. Let the American people put some pressure on these self-righteous jackasses.

Heh, you've maybe unwittingly resurrected, in a different guise, one of my favourite campaign promises from McCain last year, where he promised to name everyone who had submitted earmarks as if that information wasn't widely available.

You will know their names! You will know their names!

I loved this one, and thought it was stupid of Obama to jump on the bandwagon.

Earmarks are irrelevant. Making hay of it is cliche.

I wonder how many people have checked out how and why we will be studying pig farm odor? For those of you who have never been near one, the stench can be pretty strong. Is there a cost associated with that smell? Does that cost end up hurting us a lot when we buy our delicious pork chops? It possible or likely that we will learn something that will pay off in other industries, or will an unexpected breakthrough that will have far reaching consequences?

Maybe this is just a cleverly concealed maneuver to put some cash in someones pocket. I'm sure that happens, these are politicians. But more likely someone spent a bunch of time putting together a proposal. If it's anything like writing a grant, he did his homework and demonstrated potential.

 
Bohemian 2009-03-14 10:39:52 AM  
Of for fark sake. The republicans that are left about half of them has made it their job to cause as much chaos as possible on a daily basis.

Most of the Dems who ran for their seats this last year were jumping onto what Obama was touting during their campaigns. So now they are freaking out about details in these bills out of fear of voter rebellion. Maybe they need to start looking at who and how many are complaining before they panic? If it is lobbyists complaining screw them. If it is your republican voters complaining and the same stance has been said on Faux News or Rush screw them, they probably didn't vote for you anyways. If it is your dem voters how many are really complaining? If your getting significant numbers complaining out of those that voted for you or a good sized combination of both camps THEN think about changing your vote.

Maybe we need to send them a nice flow chart printed on a big poster board. Or shock collars. Everyone in Congress should have one installed.

In the end most of it probably does end up being that they are just not used to having to actually work that much.

 
Zombie Eater 2009-03-14 10:42:35 AM  
Isn't it time that people realize that the masses outnumber those in power by an insane amount?

The government should fear its people.

 
NeverDrunk23 2009-03-14 10:43:25 AM  
Tor_Eckman: Hold on now. I thought he was just an empty suit with no ideas and no plan and no clue what he is doing.

No, he's the secret Muslim in charge of ACORN who is terrified and attacking Rush every waking moment but uses his mind powers to teleport teleprompters every where he goes.

He's also the worst human being in existence due to him saying before that the economy was in big trouble and then he DARED to try and say recently that its not as bad so the country didn't get pessimistic and miserable (judging by how outraged some of the Fark Independents were in yesterday's thread).

 
Random Reality Check 2009-03-14 10:43:52 AM  

Ah yes, if I had a dollar for every time a Fark Independent(TM) screamed they were only voting for a Republican because they believed a deadlocked Congress was what was best for America I would be able to pay off the deficit.

At what point do we begin to understand that the people who are intentionally trying to tank the country are giving aid and comfort to our enemies? These people should be brought up on charges of treason.

All it takes is two people - and I am one.
Anyone else wish to become the second?

To paraphrase one such person,

"We need to execute people like John Walker Ann Coulter in order to physically intimidate NeoConservatives, by making them realize that they can be killed too,"

 
Random Reality Check 2009-03-14 10:49:29 AM  
netcentric: You know, if O can just defer even getting his admin in place for another 8 months (he seems like he could anyways) the 'recovery' might just take place on its own.

Sure, and you might just shiat gold starting tomorrow.
Could happen.

God, where do these morons come from? Do nothing and the problem will fix itself?
I would invite you to consider taking your own advice when you feel you need a doctor.

 
ghare 2009-03-14 10:49:51 AM  
Zombie Eater: Isn't it time that people realize that the masses outnumber those in power by an insane amount?

The government should fear its people.

Hhahahahhaha! That's just silly. The people are a bunch of sissies. Especially the 2nd Amendment To Resist Our Government People. If they were serious and had balls, they'd have marched on Washington back when Bush was President.

 
jcooli09 2009-03-14 10:51:37 AM  
Random Reality Check: Ah yes, if I had a dollar for every time a Fark Independent(TM) screamed they were only voting for a Republican because they believed a deadlocked Congress was what was best for America I would be able to pay off the deficit.

I don't think I've ever been considered a Fark Independent(TM), and I long for the days when I voted because I wanted to encourage deadlock. I wish there weren't lot's of more important reasons now.

If the economy recovers in four years or so, I'll vote for republicans in congress. My favorite situation is a democrat in the White House and republicans on The Hill.

 
EZ1923 2009-03-14 10:52:13 AM  
Mugato: I love how the Republicans are talking about Obama not speaking well and how we're spending too much money. Talk about the pot and the farking kettle. Your balls have to have been seen chasing Indiana Jones to suggest those things in light of the last 8 years.

Win.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-03-14 10:56:28 AM  
Obama and the current Congress make Republicans look fiscally conservative.

 
Arkanaut 2009-03-14 10:58:21 AM  
FTA: "Speaking for many, I was not elected to be a partisan Democrat. But all my constituents see is that I voted for the stimulus, the financial bailout bill. They say, 'I thought you were elected as an independent.' "

How about you do your work, help fix up this country, and get this over with quickly, and then you can spend the rest of your term taking principled stands? There's no time for this BS right now.

 
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