Well if it costs me 100 dollars for you to had me 50 then I'd turn you down too. The funding is only good for a short time and the states must agree to up the benefits forever. Good for him not to pass the buck to the next governor. I wish there were more like him

The Stealth Hippopotamus: states must agree to up the benefits forever

yah, cause there is no way for the states to just, pass a law or say no later ??

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wish there were more like him

So do I. All buried up to their necks.

Does he have to apply the $550 million to unemployment benefits? If he does, I can understand the hesitancy to accept them, because eventually that money is going to run out and small businesses will eventually have to foot the bill when the federal money runs dry.

The guy is just trying to make a name for himself as a potential Republican Presidential Candidate. This has nothing to do with policy, and everything to do with posturing.

he's a grandstanding asshole who's going to penalize laid-off texans to score political points with his ever-shrinking base.

In his defense, he is hoping that a lot of the Mexican labor force will head back over the border and leave plenty of jobs for hard working Americans.

Of course, with a brewing drug war across the border, a certain number of those folks are going to come right back, to sell some lovely imported product to those workers who took over their jobs, and then high tail it back across the border with those dollars, BUT it will mean that people are working again, right?

I understand the reasoning, but in the face of things, it's going to get ugly all across the South West and Texas. I wish him all the luck with that idea, and maybe, some folks will remember his frugality with some fondness, but I suspect folks who run out of unemployment benefits and start to get desperate, maybe won't be quite so forgiving.

Of course, he may be betting that they'll take their butts out of Texas to look for work, and won't be eligible to vote next go round too...

They should just take the advice of Ben Stein and work harder...

Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Subby, read up on unfunded mandates. then stfu.

Can we declare states in bad standing and impose new leadership to fix them?

/kidding. Sorta.

RobertBruce: Subby, read up on unfunded mandates. then stfu.

The thing is, these are funded--for the first three years. Which is to give states a chance to get their affairs in order, and to give their businesses a break.

There are pros and cons to both sides of this argument.

Boils down to it--if the economy improves, then he can claim that he protected business interests to create jobs. Mind you, some of that job creation is going to come from the stimulus money that he DID accept, but I'm willing to bet that he won't remember to put that down in any of the campaign material. If the economy is still lukewarm, then he's going to have to face an electorate that is probably going to remember him.

What is funny, is that he is betting that the stimulus plan will work and the economy will improve, so his chances of re-election really ride on Obama's plan working well. But, again, you probably won't see that on a lot of his election material...

But throwing trillions to failed CEOs makes perfect sense.

Unemployment compensation is a band-aid to keep the un-employed from running to Washington with torches and pitchforks. Fix the problem.

This might help Perry in the primary but somehow I don't think this will help him much in the general.

Good; So congress is just going to subtract that from the total stimulus right? Right?

After the stimulus money, the states will have to pay for these changes. It will bankrupt the state in the long run. Liberals are idiots.

someone might want to tell Rick the unemployed can still vote.

Why do Democrats always want to increase the number of people dependent on the government?

GAT_00: Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Why should productive people be FORCED into slavery to give free money to lazy parasites? Their are jobs out there in food service and the custodial line of work. Maybe the moochers should take those jobs instead of using force to steal from the productive. The Republicans have the idea that people should take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their lives. I guess that makes them evil in some peoples minds. But in reality, no.

Arnold T Pants: Why do Democrats always want to increase the number of people dependent on the government?

I dunno, why do retarded trolls like you keep posting in the political threads?

Arnold T Pants: Why do Democrats always want to increase the number of people dependent on the government?

Better to be dependent on the government than be forced to commit crimes to survive.

Mugato: But throwing trillions to failed CEOs makes perfect sense.

You know you can be against both, right? Do you ever have a logical argument?

I was going to ask a question, but the DON'T TAKE MY MONEY! people got here first.

Fine. Have the thread.

aselene: GAT_00: Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Why should productive people be FORCED into slavery to give free money to lazy parasites? Their are jobs out there in food service and the custodial line of work. Maybe the moochers should take those jobs instead of using force to steal from the productive. The Republicans have the idea that people should take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their lives. I guess that makes them evil in some peoples minds. But in reality, no.

Too heavy handed. You want to troll effectively, you really need to work your way into it. Lull folks into engaging you, BEFORE you bring out the crazy pills...

A lot of the bailout money has strings attached. In a few cases strings were added after the money was accepted. He may not like strings - don't know for certain, withholding judgment.

12349876: Better to be dependent on the government than be forced to commit crimes to survive.

Sorry, increasing the number of people dependent on government doesn't reduce crime. It just increases the number of people that aren't working.

Soup4Bonnie: I was going to ask a question, but the DON'T TAKE MY MONEY! people got here first.

just ignore them. everybody else does.

when a response is so tried and true it doesn't even have to be thought about, it typically doesn't have to be read or considered, either.

hubiestubert: aselene: GAT_00: Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Why should productive people be FORCED into slavery to give free money to lazy parasites? Their are jobs out there in food service and the custodial line of work. Maybe the moochers should take those jobs instead of using force to steal from the productive. The Republicans have the idea that people should take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their lives. I guess that makes them evil in some peoples minds. But in reality, no.

Too heavy handed. You want to troll effectively, you really need to work your way into it. Lull folks into engaging you, BEFORE you bring out the crazy pills...

No doubt he's trolling. But isn't this pretty run of the mill right-wing rhetoric these days?

Mugato: But throwing trillions to failed CEOs an unnecessary occupation makes perfect sense.

FTFY

People first, then money, then retarded governors.

/Then jackets.

incest_dungeon_dad: No doubt he's trolling. But isn't this pretty run of the mill right-wing rhetoric these days?

tom-ay-to, tom-ah-to.

Rick Perry is a farking douchebag.

/that is all

GAT_00: Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Unemployment is a safety net. It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment? Which is the case in some of those other countries. We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

aselene: Why should productive people be FORCED into slavery to give free money to lazy parasites? Their are jobs out there in food service and the custodial line of work. Maybe the moochers should take those jobs instead of using force to steal from the productive. The Republicans have the idea that people should take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their lives. I guess that makes them evil in some peoples minds. But in reality, no.

Right, honey. You're absolutely right. So, if I, with my bachelor's degree and teaching experience, lose my job, I will immediately be hired at Mickey D's on the spot for a low-paying part-time position (because that's what they're hiring for)! There's no way that McDonald's will turn me down as a job candidate because I am "overqualified" or "have no intention of staying in the position". You're absolutely right. All these people who are unemployed are lazy leeches who should be executed post haste so as to prevent their continued sucking of our hard-earned resources and should be prevented from reproducing immediately!

You've found the solution for our country's ills!! GO YOU!

It's an interesting phenomenon when your unemployed for a substantial amount of months: your friends start to treat you as if you are there secretary. I got a text saying 'please call back, emergency' so naturally I call right back, and it's a request for me to pick up his laundry.
It also opens you up to how inconsiderate people can be.
I asked one of my roommates for his half of the rent check for a week and a half. He had the money but was to lazy to write me the check so I could drive to the landlords office and turn it in. He gave it to me at 6:00pm on a Saturday the day it was due. Naturally I didn't get the check in until the next day and HE was mad at ME because the rent was late.

As I enter the rat race I start to see a disturbing trend that may be why we are in such a down slide economically: A vast majority of the working class cares only about their job, their car, and their 'getting farked up' time. Decency for your fellow man has gone out the window.

badhatharry: Unemployment is a safety net. It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment? Which is the case in some of those other countries. We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

Have you ever received unemployment? I can tell you from experience (I had to take it for two months a few years ago) that unemployment most certainly does NOT provide for a "comfortable lifestyle". As a matter of fact, we went further in debt just trying to feed ourselves (student loans were coming due, regular bills, medical stuff, etc).

Yeah, we sure were living the good life on Ramen noodles and mac-n-cheese!

badhatharry: Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment?

Because it's really really boring to be unemployed, especially during the winter. There's only so many times someone can play Super Smash Brothers before they'll accept doing work so they can make more money, and actually feel like they're contributing something.

tudorgurl: aselene: Why should productive people be FORCED into slavery to give free money to lazy parasites? Their are jobs out there in food service and the custodial line of work. Maybe the moochers should take those jobs instead of using force to steal from the productive. The Republicans have the idea that people should take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their lives. I guess that makes them evil in some peoples minds. But in reality, no.

Right, honey. You're absolutely right. So, if I, with my bachelor's degree and teaching experience, lose my job, I will immediately be hired at Mickey D's on the spot for a low-paying part-time position (because that's what they're hiring for)! There's no way that McDonald's will turn me down as a job candidate because I am "overqualified" or "have no intention of staying in the position". You're absolutely right. All these people who are unemployed are lazy leeches who should be executed post haste so as to prevent their continued sucking of our hard-earned resources and should be prevented from reproducing immediately!

You've found the solution for our country's ills!! GO YOU!

And yet from what I hear, teachers are in high demand, so you won't have to degrade yourself to flipping burgers and dropping fries. However, for those that are in situations where their career field is not in high demand, McD's may get them by until they CAN find a job after that unemployment runs out.

Journey sucks

/believe it

If everyone just worked harder, they'd all be executives making $500,000 a year, right? I mean, there's an infinite amount of wealth out there, right?

RIGHT?

badhatharry: It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment?

Wait, is it enough to survive or is it living comfortably?

badhatharry: Which is the case in some of those other countries.

Maybe we can just stay focus on the United States, specifically Texas.

badhatharry: We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

What does this even mean? Are you huffing gasoline? A blood relative of Sarah Palin?

The_Six_Fingered_Man: And yet from what I hear, teachers are in high demand, so you won't have to degrade yourself to flipping burgers and dropping fries. However, for those that are in situations where their career field is not in high demand, McD's may get them by until they CAN find a job after that unemployment runs out.

Doesn't matter. If I went to McDonald's right now and put in an application, I would NOT be hired. Same for a janitorial position. Why? I am overqualified and will not stay in the job. Plain and simple.

Fine if he doesn't want the money, he shouldn't have to take it and I don't think he has too.

I have no problem with this.

aug3: Journey sucks

/believe it

What do you think about the new lead singer?

badhatharry: GAT_00: Why is it that upping unemployment is so bad to do when the US has some of the worst and shortest unemployment benefits? If every other country can give decent treatment to it's citizens, I think we can too. The Republicans, of course, have other ideas.

Unemployment is a safety net. It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment? Which is the case in some of those other countries. We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

The problem with that is, that unemployment doesn't allow you to live anything like comfortably now. I don't know anyone who has ever been on unemployment that wasn't scrambling like crazy just to make rent and get food on the table.

The myth of the Lucky Ducky who got on the dole may work elsewhere, but here, a little less so.

The thing is--if we do up the unemployment to a point where folks can subsist, they will be injecting some of those dollars back into the economy, and actually buying things, as opposed to looking at foodstamps, food banks, and doing their level best to NOT spend a dime that doesn't go for rent or utilities.

That is the part about the stimulus package that folks seem to miss. That this is a plan to trickle UP. Middle income and lower income spending then allows companies to get their portion of the pie in a more natural fashion than just going to the bank and getting a big ass check from the gub'ment.

Instead, you see demand rise, and then inventory move. As opposed to the top down mentality of giving folks money and hoping that they'll invest, and maybe create some jobs, this plan lynches on the idea that if folks at the middle and lower rungs have enough of a safety net that they spend, and that they have jobs created on the short term with infrastructure projects or investment into burgeoning industries, that they'll create demand that will spur production, kicking off another wave of jobs to fill that demand.

tudorgurl: badhatharry: Unemployment is a safety net. It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment? Which is the case in some of those other countries. We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

Have you ever received unemployment? I can tell you from experience (I had to take it for two months a few years ago) that unemployment most certainly does NOT provide for a "comfortable lifestyle". As a matter of fact, we went further in debt just trying to feed ourselves (student loans were coming due, regular bills, medical stuff, etc).

Yeah, we sure were living the good life on Ramen noodles and mac-n-cheese!

Yes, I have been on unemployment and bankrupt. It sucks. It is supposed to suck.

tudorgurl: The_Six_Fingered_Man: And yet from what I hear, teachers are in high demand, so you won't have to degrade yourself to flipping burgers and dropping fries. However, for those that are in situations where their career field is not in high demand, McD's may get them by until they CAN find a job after that unemployment runs out.

Doesn't matter. If I went to McDonald's right now and put in an application, I would NOT be hired. Same for a janitorial position. Why? I am overqualified and will not stay in the job. Plain and simple.

Yes, because I am sure that every applicant that goes into McDonald's states right up front, "I want to retire from McDonald's. That's how dedicated I am to dropping fries and splotching mustard onto bun tops." Every single person in this country, from Bill Gates to my 15 month old daughter is overqualified to work at McDonald's.

If you go into an interview with the attitude that the job is beneath you, then you are damn right. You will not get hired. You will stay unemployed. Congratulations.

badhatharry: tudorgurl: badhatharry: Unemployment is a safety net. It provides enough to survive until you can find a job. Why get a job if you can live comfortably on unemployment? Which is the case in some of those other countries. We can raise unemployment when the inflation hits and people can't afford food.

Have you ever received unemployment? I can tell you from experience (I had to take it for two months a few years ago) that unemployment most certainly does NOT provide for a "comfortable lifestyle". As a matter of fact, we went further in debt just trying to feed ourselves (student loans were coming due, regular bills, medical stuff, etc).

Yeah, we sure were living the good life on Ramen noodles and mac-n-cheese!

Yes, I have been on unemployment and bankrupt. It sucks. It is supposed to suck.

Ok, but you can't sit there and say "IT SUCKS!" and out of the other side of your mouth accuse those who've had to take unemployment of doing it for a "comfortable life". I mean, come on man! Which is it??

Arnold T Pants: Why do Democrats always want to increase the number of people dependent on the government?

Because dependent voters are compliant voters-- they tend to come down on the side of the party that enables their dependence. It's about removing responsibility and accountability, and then individual will, all subsumed to the good of the state and the subsequent big government. One political party encourages dependence upon an ever embiggening government and one political party once encouraged personal responsibility. The latter party is in shambles and the former party is plotting to steal your wallet while you're reading this.