I'm assuming this pole did not include Southie and Dorchester.

52% said the media were treating Chris Brown unfairly

Yes, because the proper media response would be to praise him for punching her, biting her, and threatening her life.

52% said both individuals were to blame for the incident, despite knowing at the time that Rihanna had been beaten badly enough to require hospital treatment

I would like this 52% to report for castration ASAP. All children they have already should be immediately turned over to the proper authorities. Thanks.

refrigeratorelf: I would like this 52% to report for castration ASAP. All children they have already should be immediately turned over to the proper authorities. Thanks.

So you automatically assumed that the entire 52% of youths surveyed who thought she was to blame were male?

packrabid04: refrigeratorelf: I would like this 52% to report for castration ASAP. All children they have already should be immediately turned over to the proper authorities. Thanks.

So you automatically assumed that the entire 52% of youths surveyed who thought she was to blame were male?

No, but don't make the assumption I'm not an idiot. I meant to add "and tube-tying" as well.

/Whoops.
//I actually figured most of them were female...

46% said Rihanna was responsible for the incident

But the headline infers 100%


/or at least 51%
//meh

Sometimes you just have to tell her twice. If he did, then it was most definitely her fault.

/kidding
//not reporting for castration

51% said Chris Brown was responsible for the incident

46% said Rihanna was responsible for the incident

52% said both individuals were to blame for the incident, despite knowing at the time that Rihanna had been beaten badly enough to require hospital treatment

100% of boston bad at math

97% said Roger Clemens was responsible for the incident and had a strong feeling that he had something to do with Nam and the Potato Famine.

brap: 97% said Roger Clemens was responsible for the incident and had a strong feeling that he had something to do with Nam and the Potato Famine.

And the other 55% attributed fault to Zombie Reagan.

It's Boston, what do you expect

46% said Rihanna was responsible for the incident

"responsible" as in "because she didn't dump the douchebag a long time ago"? maybe?

Isn't she at least partly responsible for her poor ducking skills?

/going to hell

Hey she's decided to get married to the douchebag. She IS responsible for whatever violence comes her way.

I think that the youth have finally woken up to the fact that the vast majority of the time, abused women put themselves into that situation and choose to keep going back to similar situations.

Who here has known a stupid twat who has declined to press charges because her boyfriend "was just stressed out and didn't really mean to break her nose"??

They're responsible for what happens to them.

if rihanna is stupid enough to be with this guy after he beat the shiat out of her, then she deserves whatever happens to herself in the future...

you can't cure stupid...

when i first saw the pic, i thought to myself: "damn, that chick looks tore up from the floor up without makeup and airbrushing."

I go up to a woman. I notice she has a black eye. I think "Great, she doesn't listen."

Dave Attell ftw.

SchlingFocker: They're responsible for what happens to them.

I think they are at least partially responsible for anything that happens after the first incident.

People who've never had anything bad happen to them always think that everyone is perfectly responsible for their actions. Wait til life smacks them around a few times, and they'll change their tunes. then it'll be "Why MEEEEEE? I didn't deserve that!"

Depends what you mean by responsible. They seem to be confusing the word "responsible" with the word "deserve."

So if she gets hit again, is she still not responsible?

It wasn't her fault she got hit by him the first time, but it WILL be her fault if she gets hit by him a second time.

Beatle_Matt: It wasn't her fault she got hit by him the first time, but it WILL be her fault if she gets hit by him a second time.

F*ck...sad, but true...men don't beat women just once. I hope she learns this before he kills her.

A battered woman is never responsible the first time. Not ever.

However, provided she doesn't leave immediately, she is absolutely responsible for every subsequent beating she receives at the hands of the same person. Period.

I don't know the details of the case, but when you ask stupid servey questions you get stupid answers.

For example: Is killing innocent people just for the fun of it wrong? Yes/No

I guarantee you that about half of the people will select yes just for shiats and giggles.

What an asshole may look like:

doublesecretprobation: "responsible" as in "because she didn't dump the douchebag a long time ago"? maybe?

SchlingFocker: Hey she's decided to get married to the douchebag. She IS responsible for whatever violence comes her way.

sparky1013: if rihanna is stupid enough to be with this guy after he beat the shiat out of her, then she deserves whatever happens to herself in the future...

KaponoFor3: I think they are at least partially responsible for anything that happens after the first incident.

DarthBrooks: So if she gets hit again, is she still not responsible?

Beatle_Matt: It wasn't her fault she got hit by him the first time, but it WILL be her fault if she gets hit by him a second time.

MaxxLarge: However, provided she doesn't leave immediately, she is absolutely responsible for every subsequent beating she receives at the hands of the same person. Period.

What an asshole may look like:

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MaxxLarge: A battered woman is never responsible the first time. Not ever.

However, provided she doesn't leave immediately, she is absolutely responsible for every subsequent beating she receives at the hands of the same person. Period.

Agreed.

It Smee: What a asshole may look like:

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What a bleached asshole may look like:

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I bet she stayed 'cause he promised her heaven.

Will he ever win?

Will he ever win?

Theaetetus: It Smee: What a asshole may look like:

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What a bleached asshole may look like:

I see what you did there...

Another correct answer:
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Theaetetus: What an asshole may look like:

So, if someone tells you that they're going to keep hitting you as long as you stay in their house, you're not at all responsible for being hit when you continue to stay in their house?

The women have been told they're going to be hit. If they choose to stay, they bear responsibility.

Past behavior predicts future behavior. If he hit her once he'll do it again.

SchlingFocker: So, if someone tells you that they're going to keep hitting you as long as you stay in their house, you're not at all responsible for being hit when you continue to stay in their house?

The women have been told they're going to be hit. If they choose to stay, they bear responsibility.

Strange, I didn't realize negligence by the victim was an affirmative defense to a criminal assault charge.

It's never okay to hit your spouse or significant other, and you don't suddenly escape blame because you got away with it the first time. That's like saying "the cop let me go with a warning one time when I was driving somewhat impaired because I was almost home, so now I can drink and drive as much as I want because he's responsible." Yeah. Doesn't work that way.

It's not just in Boston: I teach high school in Orlando. I overheard some kids talking about it yesterday, and the consensus seemed to be that she must have deserved it. The loudest voices saying this were female.

Theaetetus: It's never okay to hit your spouse or significant other, and you don't suddenly escape blame because you got away with it the first time.

You do realize that more than one person can be responsible for a situation, don't you?

When someone has beaten you repeatedly, and you refuse to press charges, and you continue to run back to them, you share in the responsibility for the beating.

people are stupid.

EZ1923: It's not just in Boston: I teach high school in Orlando. I overheard some kids talking about it yesterday, and the consensus seemed to be that she must have deserved it. The loudest voices saying this were female.

That is quite... scary. I do hope they learned better.

SchlingFocker: When someone has beaten you repeatedly, and you refuse to press charges, and you continue to run back to them, you share in the responsibility for the beating.

No, you don't, and it's quite apparent that you don't understand the psychology of abuse and repeated victimization.

/you're just being glib
//but no, you really don't understand. Probably never witnessed domestic abuse or knew someone in that situation, eh?

MaxxLarge: A battered woman is never responsible the first time. Not ever.

However, provided she doesn't leave immediately, she is absolutely responsible for every subsequent beating she receives at the hands of the same person. Period.

Not all women (or men) have the means or support to leave an abusive partner. They may not have any other family. The women may fear for the wellbeing of the children (what if he gets custody because he has the job and the house? In spite of what most bitter farkers think, a vagina does not guarantee you get the kids), she may be afraid he'll kill her if she leaves. If a woman has a supportive family, has a job of her own, and has everyone telling her to leave and she insists on staying even though nothing is stopping her from going, I'd agree with you. It's for the men and women who believe they can't leave that I disagree.

Yes, it's her fault, because clearly men just can't control their primal seething rage that burns every waking second if a woman happens to annoy them just that little bit too much.

It should also be remembered that due to having no reasoning or speaking skills, a man could never do anything except punch, kick, bite and/or destroy whatever the problem is.

It would have to be her fault, wouldn't it? Because how could you blame a man - who is basically a Rage-infected monkey on a crack bender drinking a PCP and rum cocktail - for anything at all?

eddyatwork: Past behavior predicts future behavior. If he hit her once he'll do it again.


Ooo, that's so Oprah, girlfriend!!

Is Boston Teens any relation to Abba Teens?

Well at least if some one wants to bring back the rule of thumb in boston...good to know it will probably pass legislation in a few years.

SchlingFocker: The women have been told they're going to be hit

No. They were told "It will never happen again, I'm so sorry", etc.

tallguywithglasseson: SchlingFocker: The women have been told they're going to be hit

No. They were told "It will never happen again, I'm so sorry", etc.

That's usually the line. The guy gets all weepy, professes his love, tells her that he never meant to do it, that it was the alcohol's fault...the drugs...etc."

Someone who's grown up with that, or told repeatedly that they deserve no better and has accepted that fact will continue to go back to it every time. Very few people ever get out of that cycle, and the ones that do run like hell and never look back in general.

I hope that she gets out of it before he does any further damage to her, I really do. Sadly, it's not very likely.

The first time? Not responsible.

But when you keep going back to that abuser, you are partly responsible.

It Smee: What an asshole may look like:

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Thanks, Kurt

Well if she would just learn the shut up and listen.

Believing she's innocent is sexist.