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(Yahoo) Asinine So, just to get this straight: Recruiting is so bad that the Army has had to lower its standards to allow felons, borderline retards and the elderly to serve; but they are STILL firing soldiers just for being gay?   (fe25.story.media.ac4.yahoo.com) divider line 579
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Magorn 2009-03-12 02:23:14 PM  
FTA:

Democratic Rep. Jim Moran said he has requested monthly updates from the Pentagon on the impact of the policy until it is repealed. In a statement released on Thursday, Moran said the discharged soldiers included an intelligence collector, a military police officer, four infantry personnel, a health care specialist, a motor-transport operator and a water-treatment specialist.

"How many more good soldiers are we willing to lose due to a bad policy that makes us less safe and secure?" asked Moran, a member of the House panel that oversees military spending.



when even a Moran is calling your policy stupid, you really ought to rethink it.

 
SpinStopper [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:39:01 PM  
The issue is now being reconsidered by a committee of military honchos and politicians.

Think about it. I'm reminded of an old joke...

Q: What is a camel?
A: A horse, designed by committee.

And what a committee we have working on this one ;)

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:40:30 PM  
The Army has lost an estimated 50 Arabic translators because of the policy.

 
CrankMyBlueSax 2009-03-12 02:44:12 PM  
Think of how fabulous things would be if the Army would let homosexuals kill the brown people for a while.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:44:19 PM  
I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:44:54 PM  
CrankMyBlueSax: Think of how fabulous things would be if the Army would let homosexuals kill the brown people for a while.

We'd do it with style and flair.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:57:58 PM  
Diogenes: I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

I bet you are...

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 02:58:06 PM  
Diogenes: I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

Ewww...clean that up.

 
BeefyT [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:01:13 PM  
Yeah you have to worry about dropping the soap in front of the felons as much a homo. What gives?

 
burndtdan 2009-03-12 03:01:41 PM  
Diogenes: I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

i'd like to point out that your comment could be misinterpreted to be referencing ejaculation.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:02:32 PM  
burndtdan: Diogenes: I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

i'd like to point out that your comment could be misinterpreted to be referencing ejaculation.


Well, I was hoping for a happy ending to this story.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:03:37 PM  
BeefyT: Yeah you have to worry about dropping the soap in front of the felons as much a homo. What gives?

And we might even buy you some drinks.

 
burndtdan 2009-03-12 03:08:07 PM  
Diogenes: BeefyT: Yeah you have to worry about dropping the soap in front of the felons as much a homo. What gives?

And we might even buy you some drinks.


plus a higher chance of cuddling.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:11:32 PM  
HulkHands: The Army has lost an estimated 50 Arabic translators because of the policy.

What's up with all the gay translators? Is this like the new priesthood or something?

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:11:52 PM  
burndtdan: Diogenes: BeefyT: Yeah you have to worry about dropping the soap in front of the felons as much a homo. What gives?

And we might even buy you some drinks.

plus a higher chance of cuddling.


Cuddling? Now, that's truly disgusting. I was in full support of changing the policy until you pointed that out.

 
kasmel 2009-03-12 03:12:01 PM  
Straight, get it?

/got nothing

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:20:40 PM  
burndtdan: i'd like to point out that your comment could be misinterpreted to be referencing ejaculation.

You mean it WASN'T meant that way?

 
sparky1013 [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:28:50 PM  
coco ebert: What's up with all the gay translators? Is this like the new priesthood or something?

the gays are cunning linguists...

 
Eddie Adams from Torrance [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:34:40 PM  
Homosexuals aren't moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages.

 
Dr. Manhattan's Blue Wang 2009-03-12 03:35:06 PM  
Magorn: FTA:

Democratic Rep. Jim Moran said he has requested monthly updates from the Pentagon on the impact of the policy until it is repealed. In a statement released on Thursday, Moran said the discharged soldiers included an intelligence collector, a military police officer, four infantry personnel, a health care specialist, a motor-transport operator and a water-treatment specialist.

"How many more good soldiers are we willing to lose due to a bad policy that makes us less safe and secure?" asked Moran, a member of the House panel that oversees military spending.



when even a Moran is calling your policy stupid, you really ought to rethink it.


You can't make comedy like that up, awesome.

 
Cat Food Sandwiches 2009-03-12 03:36:33 PM  
Attention Obama supporters who wanted change.."Are you an able-bodied man between the ages of 18 and 25?"

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:36:45 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Homosexuals aren't moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages.

That would explain the father rapers on the Group W bench.

 
Somacandra [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:36:55 PM  
That's odd. I had thought U.S. Army recruiting was higher in the past year...that all recruitment targets were being met.

 
NYZooMan 2009-03-12 03:36:59 PM  
No. Just for coming out about it.

 
kleppe 2009-03-12 03:37:29 PM  
No submittard, they are firing soldiers for being gay and talking about it, something they agreed not to do when they joined.

Right or wrong, these rules aren't new. They were around long before any of the people being discharged for it were in the military.

Next story, please.

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-03-12 03:37:31 PM  
A certain executive could fix this.

 
the_chief 2009-03-12 03:37:43 PM  
If I were gay, I'd be proud to be fired. Someday it will mean something.

 
hej 2009-03-12 03:37:47 PM  
I thought borderline retards were always allowed in.

 
SchlingFocker [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:37:54 PM  
To be fair, the only guys who are being kicked out for being gay are the ones who are going up to their battalion commander and saying "I, SPC Schwartz, am a homosexual. I take it up the ass, and I suck cock."

Short of that, nobody's going to kick you out for being gay. I served on active duty with plenty of guys who were openly gay. Nobody at the company level cared. We were hurting too badly for good soldiers to care what hole they chose to stick their dick in.

You can go out and have as much gay sex as you want to, so long as you didn't bend him over the BN CO's desk.

 
anwserman [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:37:55 PM  
Jesus Christ, I can tell this thread will be ep-ic.

 
Nurglitch 2009-03-12 03:38:32 PM  
I'm offended by the equivalence drawn between homos, and felons, and retards, and the elderly. It reminds me too much of my ex-boyfriends.

 
tweekster 2009-03-12 03:38:34 PM  
The interesting thing is that people are against allowing gays somehow manage to lie to themselves that gays are currently not in the armed forces.

 
Heamer 2009-03-12 03:38:38 PM  
It's because they run funny.

 
HumbleGenius 2009-03-12 03:38:48 PM  
Did anyone else read that as 'felines' at first? That would be really extreme.

 
lasercannon 2009-03-12 03:39:12 PM  
Diogenes: I'm a homo who speaks Farsi, so I'm really getting a discharge out these replies.

Hey is that hair gel?

 
LeroyBourne 2009-03-12 03:39:14 PM  
Right, they might redefine the "blanket party?" Things could get sticky.

 
Bob Ondeeznuts 2009-03-12 03:39:47 PM  
but but but Clinton.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:40:02 PM  
kleppe: No submittard, they are firing soldiers for being gay and talking about it, something they agreed not to do when they joined.

Right or wrong, these rules aren't new. They were around long before any of the people being discharged for it were in the military.

Next story, please.


Compare these discharges against ones for infidelity or other "moral" reasons and then tell me you still don't think this is being selectively enforced.

 
Bloody William 2009-03-12 03:40:07 PM  
Cat Food Sandwiches: Attention Obama supporters who wanted change.."Are you an able-bodied man between the ages of 18 and 25?"

Even if we are, those of us who like getting teabagged are ironically kept out of the hot water.

 
penthesilea [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:40:18 PM  
Cat Food Sandwiches: Attention Obama supporters who wanted change.."Are you an able-bodied man between the ages of 18 and 25?"

Nope.

 
Epsilon [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:40:25 PM  
Religion is the root of all evil. I don't think I've ever met an atheist who hates gays just for being gay.

 
someonelse 2009-03-12 03:40:30 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Homosexuals aren't moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages.
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Have you ever been arrested?

 
SchlingFocker [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:40:52 PM  
Somacandra: That's odd. I had thought U.S. Army recruiting was higher in the past year...that all recruitment targets were being met.

It was the lowering of standards that allowed targets to be met.

kleppe: No submittard, they are firing soldiers for being gay and talking about it, something they agreed not to do when they joined.

Actually, even that isn't going to get you kicked out. You can be pretty farking open. The only guys I saw being kicked out were guys who wanted out and went right to the BN CO and told them. The Company COs wouldn't move it up the chain.

 
belome 2009-03-12 03:40:54 PM  
I'd rather have a felon in my hole than a queer. :)

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-03-12 03:41:26 PM  
kleppe: No submittard, they are firing soldiers for being gay and talking about it, something they agreed not to do when they joined.

Right or wrong, these rules aren't new. They were around long before any of the people being discharged for it were in the military.

Next story, please.


According to Nathaniel Frank, before don't ask don't tell, you could even talk about farking dudes as long as you claimed it was a homosexual lapse and not a pattern of behavior.

This policy is monumental stupidity that has needlessly caused controversy and even discrimination where none existed.

 
Memes Ate My Balls 2009-03-12 03:41:51 PM  
kleppe:
Right or wrong, these rules aren't new. They were around long before any of the people being discharged for it were in the military.
Next story, please.


Here is a story for you.

Once upon a time, there was an awesome country where people constantly evaluated whether laws were effective or impotent; whether laws had unintended consequences. And the people in that awesome country would write informed letters to their elected representatives, who would in turn draft legislation that modified the laws in accordance with the people's wishes. The end.

/ In part two, the series goes downhill and the awesome country sells out to corporations

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 03:42:01 PM  
Just apply don't ask/don't tell.

You'll never know who the retards are that way.

 
Bloody William 2009-03-12 03:42:25 PM  
the_chief: If I were gay, I'd be proud to be fired. Someday it will mean something.

Eh, I don't think the gay rights movement will ever get the "firehose in the face" image that the black civil rights movement got.

...I mean, they might get an image that's kind of like that, but it won't be acceptable for any textbook.

 
wingnutx 2009-03-12 03:42:27 PM  
LeroyBourne: Right, they might redefine the "blanket party?"

They'll have to change it to "lemon party".

 
wrightb71 2009-03-12 03:42:35 PM  
dittybopper: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Homosexuals aren't moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages.

That would explain the father rapers on the Group W bench.


at least they didn't litter!

 
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