Someone please explain how this guy was elected to run the Republican party.

Difficulty: No use of the word 'token'.

So... all that fundie support.. how's that workin' out for ya?

furiousxgeorge: Someone please explain how this guy was elected to run the Republican party.

Difficulty: No use of the word 'token'.

He's clean and speaks well? Wait, that can't be it. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to go with "token."

furiousxgeorge: Someone please explain how this guy was elected to run the Republican party.

Difficulty: No use of the word 'token'.

Okay fine... I'll give it a shot...

He was the only one who could handle being used like a hand puppet.

It's a fail that this is a fail.

Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions (∞)

JacksBlack: Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions (∞)

Really? Even when he's the Chairman of the farking GOP? Isn't he kinda supposed to, you know, be their messenger?

Aw, sh*t. They're going to kill the poor bastard.

JacksBlack: Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions (∞)

This is the way it should be but not the way it is. Our system revolves around all our politicians thinking the exact way their party tells them too. It's just simpler for voters that way I guess. Anyway, as I said in a previous denied thread about this, Say hello to the FORMER chair of the republican party.

Well, now I kind of feel bad for the poor guy. Unless this was orchestrated by the upper echelons of the GOP so that Steele could conveniently fall on his sword, thereby allowing him to be replaced without giving off the appearance of bending over for Rush Limbaugh.

Ah, Republicans ... you're like Christmas that never ends.

"The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life, or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life"

I'm betting some Republican's are rethinking their position on abortion as we speak.

jevman: "The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life, or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life"

I'm betting some Republican's are rethinking their position on abortion as we speak.

Or applauding his immense grasp of the obvious in this situation.

driven to quit: This is the way it should be but not the way it is

It's the way it used to be. It would be nice if it went back to that.

jevman: I'm betting some Republican's are rethinking their position on abortion as we speak.

Retroactive abortion, it's what's for dinner.

WhyteRaven74: driven to quit: This is the way it should be but not the way it is

It's the way it used to be. It would be nice if it went back to that.

I agree 100 percent.

NewportBarGuy: JacksBlack: Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions (∞)

Really? Even when he's the Chairman of the farking GOP? Isn't he kinda supposed to, you know, be their messenger?

Maybe hes the harbinger of a newer, less retarded GOP.

/Hah, who am I kidding!?

But by the end he said it was the state's decision.

Fark It: Well, now I kind of feel bad for the poor guy. Unless this was orchestrated by the upper echelons of the GOP so that Steele could conveniently fall on his sword, thereby allowing him to be replaced without giving off the appearance of bending over for Rush Limbaugh.

Considering he himself gave that appearance a week ago, the FIRST time he bent over for Limbaugh...

I'm thinking back and it wasn't that long ago, that who the chairman of the RNC or DNC was, didn't come up much at all. It was basically a nice title and easy paycheck.

WhyteRaven74: I'm thinking back and it wasn't that long ago, that who the chairman of the RNC or DNC was, didn't come up much at all. It was basically a nice title and easy paycheck.

Think of it this way... Who in the hell ever knew the name of the General in charge of operations in Iraq until it became critical and Gen. Petraeus took command with full-authority?

Now that things have hit critical the Chairman of the GOP is a household name. Unfortunately for Steele, he isn't fit to wash Patraeus' jock strap.

When the shiat hits the fan, all the focus goes to the top dog. It's pass/fail from then on.

Leader of the Republican party? Rush Limbaugh said that?

I think anyone that argues about abortion is an asshole. Assholes that think that an egg meeting a sperm is a life, are assholes. People that think you can suck out a fetus when it's damn near cooked, are assholes. People that spend a lot of time arguing about this shiat, are assholes.

Personally, I believe in two types of abortion. One is the creampie-gutpunch. And the other is the three second rule birth stomp.

Release the brooms!

Ed Finnerty: Release the brooms!

Fantastic. Now I'll have Dukas stuck in my head all day.

/dum-DUM da-diddy-dum-de-dum-de-diddity-dum-de-dum

I guess you can add fundies to the list of people who will be fleeing the GOP in droves.

Edsel: I guess you can add fundies Steele to the list of people who will be fleeing the GOP in droves.

FTFY

The fundies won't be going anywhere. They will be taking Steele's job away from him though.

The head of the RNC is an abortionist.

That's change I can believe in.

Huh, so the party really is splitting in half in the most hilarious way possible? Moderate republicans might just be able to get back on their feet. Fundies are effed in the eh. Dwindling minority, what with all that science, intelligence, rationale, and reality crashing in on their heads. Go steele, unless someone told you to do this so that you are ousted from your position, in which case lulz. farkpuppet.

Edsel: I guess you can add fundies to the list of people who will be fleeing the GOP in droves.

There could be no better outcome, for the Republican Party and America.

Talking points are not complicated. Repeat after me, Mr. Steele:

Your choice ends at my wallet.

A Washington Times article about the head of the RNC is "Commie"?

It's hard to imagine that Steele will be the RNC head this time next week. He might as well start packing up his office this weekend.

Mr. Steele then elaborated that he thought "Roe v. Wade - as a legal matter, Roe v. Wade was a wrongly decided matter," which prompted Miss DePaulo to ask: "But if you overturn Roe v. Wade, how do women have the choice you just said they should have?"

Mr. Steele responded. "The states should make that choice. That's what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide."



Hey, I could like this guy if he continues to make sense. It's nice to see that someone who has actually read the constitution and is familiar with the tenth amendment is running a political party.

Descartes: Mr. Steele then elaborated that he thought "Roe v. Wade - as a legal matter, Roe v. Wade was a wrongly decided matter," which prompted Miss DePaulo to ask: "But if you overturn Roe v. Wade, how do women have the choice you just said they should have?"

Mr. Steele responded. "The states should make that choice. That's what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide."



Hey, I could like this guy if he continues to make sense. It's nice to see that someone who has actually read the constitution and is familiar with the tenth amendment is running a political party.

I don't like the idea of individual states letting women lose their freedom.

Another example of "liberal creep". Once derided liberal ideas, over time, become acceptable to almost everybody. The line in the sand keeps moving and conservatives keep backing up.

It's like a casino. Conservatives may take some hands, but in the house always wins.

Be the house.

I bet the Republican party base is going to take Mr. Steele calling abortion an "individual choice" the same way they took calling Rush Limbaugh an "entertainer" x 1000.

Interesting side note: Rush Limbuagh IS, in fact, an entertainer, and abortion is, in fact, an individual choice. Why does Mr. Steele have to apologize for telling the truth?

JacksBlack: Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions

YEAH! THIS!

I mean, it's not like he's the president of the Republicans or somethin', right? RNC, what's that?

ghare: Edsel: I guess you can add fundies to the list of people who will be fleeing the GOP in droves.

There could be no better outcome, for the Republican Party and America.

Pretty much this is the only way the Republican's can continue as a viable national party instead of merely just a regional one.

They have to jettison the fundies, or they are doomed, doomed, doomed. David Frum's article in Newsweek the other day very succinctly summed up how badly the party is farked.

Essentially what it boils down to is that most people mid 30's and under have a pretty solid consensus on meat and potatoes "social issues" like gays, abortion, war on drugs, etc and that consensus is diametrically opposed to the current GOP fundamentalist christian driven social platform. Now simple logic here dictates that assuming that newly born voters don't trend more socially conservative than current voters (it's never happened before, but hey it might) then eventually attrition will destroy any party that clings on to these issues in the face of changing societal opinions. Hell, history should be enough of an example to prove this point, but evidently some people are slow to learn.

Descartes: Mr. Steele responded. "The states should make that choice. That's what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide."



Hey, I could like this guy if he continues to make sense. It's nice to see that someone who has actually read the constitution and is familiar with the tenth amendment is running a political party.

Conservatives don't WANT a national abortion ban. It'd be one less issue to drum up fundamentalist support over. Also, conservative wives and their daughters sometimes need abortions too. You need to have a few states where it's still legal. They don't want some Mexican doc messing around down there, who knows what could happen?

From the people who brought us such vetting classics as Sarah "I don't know what magazines I read" Palin and Bobby "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood" Jindal comes the latest classic:

Michael "I'm totally a hardcore Republican and definitely not the leader of the party because I happy to be African American" Steele

Coming soon: John Boehner marries a dude, then apologizes to Rush Limbaugh

The GOP: America's Gaping Whole of Suck

BergZ: Why does Mr. Steele have to apologize for telling the truth?

Because in order to be a Republican, you have to be stupid to begin with. So they tend to do stupid things, like demand apologies from people who have done nothing wrong.

As a resident of the great state of Maryland,
don't think for a moment that this makes Steele pro-choice.

It makes him a hypocrite douchebag. Just like most of the GOP
(God's Own Party).

Alphax: I don't like the idea of individual states letting women lose their freedom.

It should have been like this from the beginning, the outcome from this process (as painful as it might have been to individuals during this period) would be very similar to what we have today but most likely without the huge national acrimony.

In a way, Steele is actually right in what he says - let's treat Roe V. Wade as settled law (no overturning it), but the federal level was the wrong place to decide this.

States were the logical place to decide complex social questions like this due to the diverse demographic/geographic make-up of the country. Ultimately, we would probably have just as many reproductive rights in either scenario, but the bitter national battle where segments of the population are constantly at war with other segments might have been averted entirely. Certainly, there would be some intra-state fighting over this issue, but the concern there pales in comparison to a scenario where say, the 25 least populous (yet most conservative) states hold the rest of the nation hostage over a social issue in the Senate.

The sword cuts both ways of course in this kind of scenario, which has obviously added to the friction and struggle between a very vocal minority (anti-abortion crusaders) and the pro-choice majority.

Of course this shiat is never totally clear cut, because just as you can make an argument that the states were the right place to decide the abortion issue, an even more compelling argument can be made that the federal level was the place to decide the desegregation issue (something we probably got right instead of wrong, for a change).

i almost feel sorry for the guy.

and now the RNC will probably be run by katon dawson, a man who got into politics because he was so angered by the idea of black and white children attending school together.

"I, in the 1960s was a product of school segregation, where we took our schools and completely disbanded them, and made racial equality. Fifty-Fifty."

NewportBarGuy: Retroactive abortion, it's what's for dinner.

In my house, we call that a "smishsmortion".

No Such Agency: Conservatives don't WANT a national abortion ban. It'd be one less issue to drum up fundamentalist support over.

In the neighborhood of THIS. The abortion issue is great for the single-issue groups who need to keep those checks coming in. So the pro-lifers yowl about the godless scum come to teach promiscuity and the pro-choicers squawk about back-alley abortions, but for everybody else it is pretty much off the radar.

I was hoping that Steele wouldn't burn out this quickly. He won't even make it to the 2010 midterms at this rate.

The GOP leader can't hold this position because it's right.

I wonder who will replace him, and how soon?

NewportBarGuy: JacksBlack: Party affiliation does not necessarily dictate individual positions (∞)

Really? Even when he's the Chairman of the farking GOP? Isn't he kinda supposed to, you know, be their messenger?

Maybe unlike democrats he isn't forced to regurgitate the liberal socialist agenda from a teleprompter whenever questioned?