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(The Raw Story) Obvious Sean Hannity claims that Christianity is compatible with torture   (rawstory.com) divider line 268
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toddalmighty [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:07:01 PM  
Read the bible. It is.

 
furiousxgeorge [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:13:11 PM  
toddalmighty: Read the bible. It is.

Well...yeah...if you are a roman torturing Jesus.

 
toddalmighty [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:15:53 PM  
Remember what god did to Job?

 
CDP [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:17:08 PM  
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driven to quit [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:25:18 PM  
In all respect, Jesus WAS tortured so I"m sure they know a thing or too about it. Although, I'm sure there is a quote in bible about not holding a grudge or something like that.

 
SpinStopper [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:25:24 PM  
I was raised in the Mormon church, which (oh, shaddup) is a form of Christianity.

For many adults, Sunday is full of boring meetings and services pretty much from daybreak to late evening.

And these people don't let you have any caffeine.

Torture, indeed ;)

 
Bill_Wick's_Friend 2009-03-11 10:27:52 PM  
toddalmighty: Remember what god did to Job?

Yeah, but that was on a wager with Satan. National security issues aren't on the same plane as celestial gambling.

/wondering if God bid three quatloos on Job's continued devotion
/or if God attended Gamblers Anonymous meetings
/playing dice with the universe

 
lantawa [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:32:08 PM  
Looks like one or more asshats missed the oh-so-special sawing off of heads videos that have been posted by terrorists from The Religion of Peace. Better pick sides and think carefully when you do.

Hannity:
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Sgt Otter [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:41:39 PM  
2002: Tortune is illegal, disgusting, worthless, and Un-American.
2003: Well, torture might be useful, but we don't do it. It's illegal and Un-American.
2004: That wasn't torture. That was, uh, fratenity pranks!
2005: Torture isn't illegal, but it doesn't work. And uh, we don't do it. Especially on American citizens. Just Enemy Combatants. Uh, hypothetically.
2006: Torture works on that awesome show 24!
2007: Torture might be okay, in certain circumstances.
2008: Well yeah, we beat them, sexually abuse them, force them to undergo sensory deprivation, but it isn't torture. And if it was, it would be legal.
2009: Jesus says torture is okay!

 
lantawa [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:43:49 PM  
Might've helped if I'd read the article first.

Fark you, subby.

 
SusanIvanova [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 10:52:32 PM  
Modern Christianity: Torture is just fine, having teh ghey, not so much.

 
CDP [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:01:02 PM  
The U.S. has considered waterbording to be illegal since 1898 "As far back as the U.S. occupation of the Philippines after the 1898 Spanish-American War, U.S. soldiers were court-martialed for using the "water cure" to question Filipino guerrillas."

Also the U.S. government tried, convicted, and executed Japanese officers for war crimes

"Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged, among their many other crimes, with torturing Allied military personnel and civilians. The principal proof upon which their torture convictions were based was conduct that we would now call waterboarding."

Link (new window)

Water boarding was designated as illegal by U.S. generals in Vietnam 40 years ago. A photograph that appeared in The Washington Post of a U.S. soldier involved in water boarding a North Vietnamese prisoner in 1968 led to that soldier's severe punishment.

"The soldier who participated in water torture in January 1968 was court-martialed within one month after the photos appeared in The Washington Post, and he was drummed out of the Army," recounted Darius Rejali, a political science professor at Reed College.


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The Government of the U.S. has tried, and convicted both U.S. and foreign solders for waterbording.

Why does Sean Hannity hate the U.S. of A?


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Myownepitaph [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:32:40 PM  
I'm not a Christian, but I'm pretty damn sure Jesus of Nazareth would have had some very choice words for the cretins who support this kind of shiat.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:38:09 PM  
Having to deal with self-righteous Christians is the closest I've come to being tortured.

 
HenryFnord [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:41:12 PM  
I'm not a Christian, but I'm pretty damn sure Jesus of Nazareth would have had some very choice words for the cretins who support this kind of shiat.

Like anybody gives a shiat what a black man who doesn't even speak English has to say.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:45:00 PM  
Mooslims are violent too, so that makes it ok.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-03-11 11:51:09 PM  
We need to do it the Israeli way. If you torture, you put your life in your own hands - if the torture doesn't work, you go to jail.

 
skinbubble 2009-03-11 11:54:36 PM  
Why do people still listen to Hannity?

 
burndtdan 2009-03-12 12:00:16 AM  
DamnYankees: We need to do it the Israeli way. If you torture, you put your life in your own hands - if the torture doesn't work, you go to jail.

how about we do it the way that is mandated by our laws and treaty obligations and just skip that "if the torture doesn't work" and go right to "you go to jail".

 
ninjakirby [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:06:34 AM  
Hannity went on a mini-diatribe and suggested that his religious beliefs wouldn't prevent him from supporting an anti-terror tactic almost universally considered to be torture.


He isn't saying Christianity is compatible with torture, he's saying he's willing to forgo his religious principles in order to torture. Slightly different.

 
Thorny4Pie 2009-03-12 12:12:24 AM  
Hey, I'm with Hannity.

As long as he's ok with that fact that if he ever gets caught by a terrorist (oh please oh please oh please), they can torture him too.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:29:35 AM  
toddalmighty: Read the bible. It is.

Some quotes where Jesus approved of torture? You have any?

 
Propain_az 2009-03-12 12:31:32 AM  
I am a red state conservative, gun owning, kick out the illegals, Repulican, and even I realize Hannity is a douche bag.

 
Wolframkerngeschoss [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:31:50 AM  
♬ You're wrong about virtues of Christianity
And you're wrong if you agree with Sean Hannity
If you think that pride is about nationality
You're wrong ♬
(NOFX, You're wrong)

 
Propain_az 2009-03-12 12:33:03 AM  
Propain_az: I am a red state conservative, gun owning, kick out the illegals, Repulican, and even I realize Hannity is a douche bag.

Republican.....damn these adult beverages!

 
Hollie Maea 2009-03-12 12:34:14 AM  
FTFA: And I'm Christian.

Guess again, dumbass.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:36:05 AM  
ninjakirby: He isn't saying Christianity is compatible with torture, he's saying he's willing to forgo his religious principles in order to torture. Slightly different.

So he's saying he's not really a Christian then?

Jesus was not big on the whole, "Hey, follow my teachings when it's convenient for you, and then later you can tell me that you're sorry and it will be fine. I'm dumb that way."

And Jesus hated rich people. So I guess Hannity is farked either way.

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:36:12 AM  
Does that make the people who are tortured in this scenario... Jesus-like?

 
mamoru [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:37:06 AM  
Anyone who advocates torture should be required to undergo it. Completely undergo it. I.e. without the option to "cry off" if it is too much.

 
captainktainer 2009-03-12 12:37:48 AM  
Sean Hannity isn't a Christian if he approves of torture. Jesus was ambivalent on the subject of even killing a motherfarker who was KILLING YOU RIGHT THEN, let alone torturing a guy to admit to possibly having done something that made your country not like him.

Hannity needs to be forced to watch The Passion of the Christ a few times and reminded that Jesus was on the side of the poor, the oppressed, the tortured, and the criminal. There is nothing loving about torturing a prisoner until his mind breaks.

 
Sir Daniel Fortesque 2009-03-12 12:38:18 AM  
Well perhaps historical Christianity is compatible with torture, but the actual message... ah who am I kidding. We all know these Christians don't care about the message.

 
Shaggy_C 2009-03-12 12:38:37 AM  
The two have a long history together. Auto de fe, terrorist!

 
hahawinnipeg 2009-03-12 12:38:58 AM  
I'm a christian and I find his show is torturous so I don't watch it.

Bill O'Reilly I like though. Possible Masochism?

 
furiousxgeorge [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:39:04 AM  
Why do people still listen to Hannity?

They like to be tortured.


/explains so much.

 
ace in your face 2009-03-12 12:39:32 AM  
Lando Lincoln: toddalmighty: Read the bible. It is.

Some quotes where Jesus approved of torture? You have any?


This. Over and over again.

 
TheShavingofOccam123 [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:39:45 AM  
It doesn't matter if it's wrong or not. Hannity is forgiven.

 
MentalMoment 2009-03-12 12:40:05 AM  
As long as you don't cut or otherwise break the skin it's OK.

Wasn't that the rule followed by the Inquisition? Don't think they ever broke it.

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:40:43 AM  
From TFA:

McCain disagreed. "I think it's what separates us from the terrorists . My father could never lift me up as a child because he can't move his arm. He can't ride a bike because he can't bend his knee because he was tortured. I think he knows better," she said.

OK, at least ONE prominent Republican has some sense in her head.

 
ace in your face 2009-03-12 12:41:10 AM  
mamoru: Anyone who advocates torture should be required to undergo it. Completely undergo it. I.e. without the option to "cry off" if it is too much.

I know a couple people who have been waterboarded during military training and do not consider it torture and think we should use it.

/just sayin

 
Sabyen91 [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:41:44 AM  
furiousxgeorge: toddalmighty: Read the bible. It is.

Well...yeah...if you are a roman torturing Jesus.


A spooned out eye for a ripped out eye. Yes, the bible provides for torture.

 
Hibno 2009-03-12 12:42:19 AM  
Have any of you even seen 24? It shows you how important it is to torture people for your country. All the people on that show who are against torture are liberals.

 
AgeOfReason 2009-03-12 12:42:41 AM  
He's right. Both are reprehensible.

 
odinsposse 2009-03-12 12:42:42 AM  
Is that supposed to be a selling point?

 
Bugs_Bunny_Practiced_Psychological_Warfare 2009-03-12 12:42:49 AM  
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

 
ace in your face 2009-03-12 12:43:09 AM  
Sabyen91: furiousxgeorge: toddalmighty: Read the bible. It is.

Well...yeah...if you are a roman torturing Jesus.

A spooned out eye for a ripped out eye. Yes, the bible provides for torture.


The bible itself is not what composes christianity. Christ would not have endorsed such behavior. He was a turn the other cheek dude.

 
Shaggy_C 2009-03-12 12:44:02 AM  
I think the problem is God's disappearance. See, in the old testament God would kill people and make them suffer terribly whenever they did not obey him. When he just stopped appearing to people had to do his workTM for him.

 
gittlebass 2009-03-12 12:44:11 AM  
toddalmighty: Remember what god did to Job?

They took our jooooooooooooobs!

 
Corvus 2009-03-12 12:45:42 AM  
toddalmighty: Remember what god did to Job?

Either your border line retarded or a troll.

A) Job is in the OLD testament not the new. So it really doesn't have much to do with Christ's teachings.

B) Just because God does something does not mean it's OK for people to do it. God doles out all sorts of damage in the old testament. That doesn't give the right for man to do it. You suppose to act like Jesus not God.

C) it would be "God" not "god".

D) Just a fun "did you know" fact: Job is also in the Qur'an and is considered a prophet of Islam.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:45:50 AM  
Sabyen91: A spooned out eye for a ripped out eye. Yes, the bible provides for torture.

That's not torture, that's revenge. Anyway...

We're talking about Jesus here. Where did Jesus say that it's okay to torture people? When did Jesus EVER advocate violence against people?

 
tallguywithglasseson [TotalFark] 2009-03-12 12:46:08 AM  

My guess at how the interview with Meghan McCain would have went if it had been conducted by a misogynistic John McLaughlin:

Misogynistic John McLaughlin: "Ok, now to Meghan McCain, the bimbo daughter of failed presidential candidate John McCain. Meghan, is it OK if I call you 'Tits McGhee'?"
Meghan McCain: "Uh..."
MJM: "Tits McGhee, what do you think about the prospect of bringing Guantanamo detainees back to the US?"
MM: "Uh... OK... This makes my skin crawl! I don't even understand who thinks this is a good idea..."
MJM: "Tits, if you keep blinking, moving your arms, and shaking your head like a wet Chihuahua, I'm going to have to haul off and give you a fresh one!"
MM: "HEY! Who the hell do you think you are? I went to Columbia..."
MJM: "Of course you did, sweetheart, of course you did..."

 
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