And James Carville is a complete dick-nugget also.

Well yeah, there is that.

Someone should tell Rush that two wrongs don't make a right.

gimmeafarkinname: And James Carville is a complete dick-nugget also.

cajun style

burndtdan: gimmeafarkinname: And James Carville is a complete dick-nugget also.

cajun style

Plus, I'm fairly certain that, at one time in his life, he was actually a turtle.

coyote71: Someone should tell Rush that two wrongs don't make a right.

Not really, but to have the left screaming away that Rush is the debbil because he wants Obama to fail is hypocritical.

I wish Carville and his wife would just disappear.

dj_bigbird: Not really, but to have the left screaming away that Rush is the debbil because he wants Obama to fail is hypocritical.

Carville doesn't have the kind of audience that Rush has. He hasn't had anything close since the Clinton admin.

coyote71: Someone should tell Rush that two wrongs don't make a right.

Someone should tell a good chunk of the people arguing in a typical Fark politics flamewar that.

/I don't care who started it. Don't make pull this internet over...

IXI Jim IXI: dj_bigbird: Not really, but to have the left screaming away that Rush is the debbil because he wants Obama to fail is hypocritical.

Carville doesn't have the kind of audience that Rush has. He hasn't had anything close since the Clinton admin.

He doesn't need the audience Rush has when he has CNN, NBC, CBS...

dj_bigbird: He doesn't need the audience Rush has when he has CNN, NBC, CBS...

Five or ten minutes on the news, every once in a while a half hour on one of the news talkshows doesn't come close to millions of people a few hours every day in matters of reach.

Carville probably reaches a wider audience, however.

LexisNexis search:
james carville "certainly hope he doesn't succeed"

Results:
The Washington Times

October 7, 2002, Monday, Final Edition

Suddenly, a time to lead;
'Difficult moment for America' transforms the president

BYLINE: By Bill Sammon, THE WASHINGTON TIMES

SECTION: PAGE ONE; FIGHTING BACK: THE WAR ON TERRORISM, FROM INSIDE THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE; Pg. A01

LENGTH: 3257 words

Turns out the press did report it.

But when it's said about a guy with a proven track record of failure, quotes like that fail to raise many eyebrows.

jefe_gonzo: Turns out the press did report it.

Yeah, but they didn't report it.

They must've been afraid of Carville's millions of rabid fans.

I meant they didn't repeatedly report it :D

I should point out I included only "Major US and World Publications," excluding wire services and TV and radio transcripts. Date was set to after Sep. 11, 2001.

"Never" is a funny word.

jefe_gonzo: Date was set to after Sep. 11, 2001.

Well, by that time, they had a bigger failure to worry about.

Great. Let's put the two of them together in a room to discus it.

Then seal the entrance with concrete.

Subby, if you find someone DEFENDING Carville, you can call them a hypocrite. Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

dj_bigbird: IXI Jim IXI: dj_bigbird: Not really, but to have the left screaming away that Rush is the debbil because he wants Obama to fail is hypocritical.

Carville doesn't have the kind of audience that Rush has. He hasn't had anything close since the Clinton admin.

He doesn't need the audience Rush has when he has CNN, NBC, CBS...

Ahhh, false equivalence, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

Wasn't it he and Begala who've been running the "Crush Rush" operation in the first place?

/"Paul Begala, you look like a fetus!"

IXI Jim IXI: Well, by that time, they had a bigger failure to worry about.

Sadly, the "failures" to follow were the result of a beholden press unwilling to look too closely at an ever-expanding list of inconsistencies. The school girl-like crush they developed for the Decider post-9/11 opened the doors to that divisive prick and his handlers.

I hope Chris Matthews' pecker permanently quit working after he so dutifully doted upon Bush following his dog-and-pony show aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.

Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"

So, when national disaster struck, Carville, a douchenozzle of the highest order, basically said "Forget partisan bickering right now, the nation is in crisis and we must pull together." Limbaugh announced he wanted the president to fail in the midst of national economic crisis. I don't think I'd ever want the president to fail because if the president fails, in whatever endeavor, the nation suffers. But context is important. On the eve or the terrorist attacks, we were in a minor recession and we were at peace. Carville probably thought that even if the president didn't succeed, the nation wouldn't be launched into crisis.

what_now: Great. Let's put the two of them together in a room to discus it.

Then seal the entrance with concrete.

But we can have video cameras in there, right? :D

what_now: Subby, if you find someone DEFENDING Carville, you can call them a hypocrite. Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

Nope, it's a simple "But Clinton" takeoff. The fact that they had to go back to one instance eight years, lie about the press never mentioning it, is laughable.

/Subby

dj_bigbird: Not really, but to have the left screaming away that Rush is the debbil because he wants Obama to fail is hypocritical.

Technically if the left screams that Carville was the debbil for wanting Bush to fail, they aren't really hypocrites.

But James Carville himself being a hypocrite is news how?

/doesn't think Rush is the debbil
//thinks Rush is a flaming douchebag
///not for the 'wanting Obama to fail' bit, though

what_now: Great. Let's put the two of them together in a room to discus it.

Then seal the entrance with concrete.

Subby, if you find someone DEFENDING Carville, you can call them a hypocrite. Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

I never cared for him. But when he attacked Richardson after the governor endorsed Obama? That was the last straw.

jefe_gonzo: I hope Chris Matthews' pecker permanently quit working after he so dutifully doted upon Bush following his dog-and-pony show aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.

The mental imagery...must...trepan...

what_now: Subby, if you find someone DEFENDING Carville, you can call them a hypocrite. Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

i will say that i lol'd when he argued with michele bachmann on larry king that one time. that was quality television.

what_now: Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

Carville is a supporter of Terry McAuliffe's campaign for Virginia Governor. Some Democrats still have a use for him.

tallguywithglasseson: /doesn't think Rush is the debbil
//thinks Rush is a flaming douchebag
///not for the 'wanting Obama to fail' bit, though

Yeah...just one more straw on the dead camel's back.

Diogenes: I never cared for him. But when he attacked Richardson after the governor endorsed Obama? That was the last straw.

Yep. Talk about "party over country"

lunchinlewis: what_now: Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

Carville is a supporter of Terry McAuliffe's campaign for Virginia Governor. Some Democrats still have a use for him.

no one likes terry either

So, the defense of Rush is that he is just as wrong as Carville was?

Excellent reasoning there. We want to be JUST as bad as our political rivals.

Here's a tip folks. You want to get folks back to the party, you're going to have to do a little something. And that is restore our faith in it.

If you are going to claim the moral high ground, it helps if you actually occupy that territory first.

IXI Jim IXI: Nope, it's a simple "But Clinton" takeoff. The fact that they had to go back to one instance eight years, lie about the press never mentioning it, is laughable.

Oh I know. Whenever I yell at "subby" I'm usually yelling at the troglodytes who won't understand sarcasm.

/incidentally, my uncle, the staunch Republican, told me yesterday that he liked "that Colbert fellow".
//wasn't kidding.

burndtdan: i will say that i lol'd when he argued with michele bachmann on larry king that one time. that was quality television.

MUST!HAZ!LINK!

IXI Jim IXI: burndtdan: gimmeafarkinname: And James Carville is a complete dick-nugget also.

cajun style

Plus, I'm fairly certain that, at one time in his life, he was actually a turtle.

I read his and his wife's book. He's a funny guy. In one of his earlier campaign stints, his candidate was absolutely against negative campaigning, so he called a press conference and said, "My candidate is against negative campaigning and that is why he won't let me say _____ ______ and ______ about the other guy."

Can't remember what filled in the blanks, but the lesson was clear. He's more than happy to be the douchebag as long as he is getting paid.

burndtdan: no one likes terry either

I hear that sentiment a lot lately. No one likes Pelosi. Nobody likes Chris Dodd anymore. All the Democrats hate Carville.

I don't know, maybe step outside of fark once in a while and test the waters out in the rest of the world. Somebody keeps putting these people in office.

lunchinlewis: Carville is a supporter of Terry McAuliffe's campaign for Virginia Governor. Some Democrats still have a use for him.

I have no idea who McAuliffe is running against, but I automatically support the guy.

Carville, McAuliffe, Beluga- they're the old DLC. Obama pretty much cleaned their clocks, and yanked their relevance away.

lunchinlewis: burndtdan: no one likes terry either

I hear that sentiment a lot lately.

no, we've openly and loudly hated terry mccauliffe and treated carville like a doofus for as far back as i can remember.

lunchinlewis: Somebody keeps putting these people in office.

and also, terry isn't in office, carville isn't in office, pelosi is put in office by her district, and dodd is put in office by his state.

you wanna know why pelosi is in office? go ask san francisco.

what_now: /incidentally, my uncle, the staunch Republican, told me yesterday that he liked "that Colbert fellow".

My uncle in law (is that right? my wife's uncle) didn't know that Colbert was a character. I would have thought the COMEDY CENTRAL channel it was on was a big indicator, but alas.

I_C_Weener: Can't remember what filled in the blanks, but the lesson was clear. He's more than happy to be the douchebag as long as he is getting paid.

He's an attack dog and, asshole or not (definitely asshole), he's fairly good at it.

what_now: Oh I know. Whenever I yell at "subby" I'm usually yelling at the troglodytes who won't understand sarcasm.

:sniff: I :sob: understand...

burndtdan: you wanna know why pelosi is in office? go ask san francisco.

Because she's FAAABULOUS?

The GOP is really pushing this de facto Fairness Doctrine thing.

Why do Republicans want to force us all to be so politically correct?

Ah well, at least this thread is bound to do better than my "Love Guru" thread yesterday :D

Ed Finnerty: The GOP is really pushing this de facto Fairness Doctrine thing.

Why do Republicans want to force us all to be so politically correct?

Because if they act like such complete jackholes that they mobilize the Democrats into pushing for the Fairness Doctrine, they can then turn around and say "See! You see! They're COMMIE FASCISTS!"

burndtdan: as far back as i can remember

Does that predate their involvement in Hillary's presidential campaign? All the way back to Bill's White House?

what_now: Carville, McAuliffe, Beluga- they're the old DLC.

Check your history. McAuliffe fits right into that list.

Because the US was in a devastating financial crisis during Bush's first year. All that assclown had to do was hold down the chair, but he went on vacation and farked that up.

lunchinlewis: Does that predate their involvement in Hillary's presidential campaign? All the way back to Bill's White House?

Carville wasn't really that involved in Clinton's re-election campaign, or in the 2nd half of the administration. I always found that weird. He could have used a pit bull when all the allegations started flying.

lunchinlewis: Does that predate their involvement in Hillary's presidential campaign? All the way back to Bill's White House?

i wasn't on fark in the 90s so i can't really say. but if your original point was about what started happening in the very recent past, going back a decade to find evidence of the opposite happening doesn't really support your premise.

what_now: Subby, if you find someone DEFENDING Carville, you can call them a hypocrite. Most democrats have no use for that reptile.

I loved his radio show on XM. Of course, it was sports talk. He's funny, and he really knows his stuff when it comes to sports. Seems like a nice enough fellow when I've seen him at Tulane. Of course, none of those things have to do with politics.

lunchinlewis: what_now: Carville, McAuliffe, Beluga- they're the old DLC.

Check your history. McAuliffe fits right into that list.

I..I know. That's why I put him on it....

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