43% to 42%

Yes I'm sure Chris Dodd is shaking in his boots.

Both of the Senators from Connecticut stink.

Chris Dodd May Finally Have to Get a Real Job

Won't ever happen. He will never leave DC.

Unless there's a byelection for his riding, can we cut the election shiat until 2010?

Dinki: 43% to 42%

Yes I'm sure Chris Dodd is shaking in his boots.

I see someone didn't RTFA past the first paragraph.

Read farther, TFA goes on to explain that he is polling below 50% against challengers that many people in the area have never heard of. Subby is correct when they say he is loosing to a potted plant.

Bored Horde: Unless there's a byelection for his riding, can we cut the election shiat until 2010?

Take off, hoser.

It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

Crosshair: say he is loosing to a potted plant.

heh

Good. I'd like to see both him and Reid lose their seats in 2010. I'm willing to sacrifice those two, particularly if all those open Repub seats flip blue, as they most undoubtedly will.

Anybody but Kudlow 2010!

Crosshair: they say he is loosing louseing to a potted plant.

Pet peeve.

Bored Horde: can we cut the election shiat until 2010?

No. We are always in an election season. Now, most people will only pay attention to elections for 4-5 months every 4 years, but some of us will always be paying attention to this stuff.

what_now: No. We are always in an election season

How can we be in an election season when we don't even know all the candidates? Oh that's right, elections are not about candidates anymore, just about the parties. Tip O'Neill just spun in his grave.

Dodd should be thrown in jail, but he is friends with Obama.

If CT elects Kudlow I suggest we invade and initiate regime change. Maybe even hang the SOB as an example.

Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

Oh look over there..>Rush Limbaugh said something bad about the One.

Kicking his loser ass out would be a good start, but don't count on it.

Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

I amazes me how desperate your trolling has become.

The poll is real as is the danger to Dodd.

But who gives a fark what John Fund thinks?

I'm surprised Rorschach isn't getting more attention for his tough-on-crime stance.

Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

LOL are people still blaming Barney Frank? Somehow he was able to stop the Republican majority to do that huh?

He's going the way of (sort of) the way of George Allen. Guy with a shot (okay, a real long shot) of being the President to now losing his seat. And it sounds at times like he definitely deserves it.

Russky: LOL are people still blaming Barney Frank? Somehow he was able to stop the Republican majority to do that huh?

And he forced Phil Gramm into sponsoring that awful bill to roll back Glass-Steagall!

Russky: LOL are people still blaming Barney Frank?

They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

The Nader part has really got to hurt.

Edsel: I'm surprised Rorschach isn't getting more attention for his tough-on-crime stance.

Russky: Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

LOL are people still blaming Barney Frank? Somehow he was able to stop the Republican majority to do that huh?

Barney Frank: So, are Freddie and Fannie in need of adult supervision?

Franklin Raines: Of course not, here's a campaign donation.

Barney Frank: Ok, thanks. I'm going to the House gym to "work out."

3_Butt_Cheeks: They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

Okay sparky, here's your chance: WHY should Barney Frank be "drawn and quartered"?

Take your time.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Russky: LOL are people still blaming Barney Frank?

They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

Nice trolling there.

Dodd, and rest of the right to center right congress for the last 20 years has just been following the neo-liberalism that got Reagan elected -- Republican and Democrat alike.

There's a slew of B.S. that led to this.
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Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

Yeah, he neglected to singlehandedly solve the housing crisis, and he thought things were going well back when (by all appearances) they looked to be doing just that.

C'mon man, trying to pin the blame for our assfarked economy on one person is ridiculous. It was a team effort.

Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

Okay sparky, here's your chance: WHY should Barney Frank be "drawn and quartered"?

Take your time.

bet a nickle he replies with 'lighten up Francis" or puts you on ignore -- it's his shtick.

DarnoKonrad: bet a nickle he replies with 'lighten up Francis" or puts you on ignore -- it's his shtick

He's probably going to hit on me again. He did it (again) in the Pelosi thread earlier.

Crosshair: Read farther, TFA goes on to explain that he is polling below 50% against challengers that many people in the area have never heard of.

Read even further, it goes on to say John Fund is an editorial writer for the Wall Street Journal.

Which is how seriously I take this article.

Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

Okay sparky, here's your chance: WHY should Barney Frank be "drawn and quartered"?

Take your time.

You know, the fannie and freddy mess. Maybe you have heard of it?

In 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

Just for starters.

Dwight_Yeast: DarnoKonrad: bet a nickle he replies with 'lighten up Francis" or puts you on ignore -- it's his shtick

He's probably going to hit on me again. He did it (again) in the Pelosi thread earlier.

Your wishful thinking ain't scoring you any points there slappy, but please keep trying :)

3_Butt_Cheeks: n 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

And so Frank, simply by defending Fannie and Freddie, caused the housing crisis single-handedly?

Um, okay.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Your wishful thinking ain't scoring you any points there slappy, but please keep trying :)

Yet you're following me from thread to thread...

Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: n 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

And so Frank, simply by defending Fannie and Freddie, caused the housing crisis single-handedly?

Um, okay.

Single handedly? No. VERY involved? Yea.

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Dodd's done if the waitresses turn out in force next November...

It is after midnight and Kennedy and Dodd are just finishing up a long dinner in a private room on the first floor of the restaurant's annex. They are drunk. Their dates, two very young blondes, leave the table to go to the bathroom. (The dates are drunk too. "They'd always get their girls very, very drunk," says a former Brasserie waitress.) Betty Loh, who served the foursome, also leaves the room. Raymond Campet, the co-owner of La Brasserie, tells Gaviglio the senators want to see her.

As Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. With Gaviglio on Dodd's lap, Kennedy jumps on top and begins rubbing his genital area against hers, supporting his weight on the arms of the chair. As he is doing this, Loh enters the room. She and Gaviglio both scream, drawing one or two dishwashers. Startled, Kennedy leaps up. He laughs. Bruised, shaken and angry over what she considered a sexual assault, Gaviglio runs from the room. Kennedy, Dodd and their dates leave shortly thereafter, following a friendly argument between the senators over the check.

Eyewitness Betty Loh told me that Kennedy had "three or four" cocktails in his first half hour at the restaurant and wine with dinner. When she walked into the room after Gaviglio had gone in, she says, "what I saw was Senator Kennedy on top of Carla, who was on top of Senator Dodd's lap, and the tablecloth was sort of slid off the table 'cause the table was knocked over-not completely, but just on Senator Dodd's lap a little bit, and of course the glasses and the candlesticks were totally spilled and everything...

Hang On Voltaire: It amazes me how much the media has let Dodd and Barney Frank escape responsibility for the housing crisis.

That's because Barney Frank's "responsibility" for the housing crisis is something that exists solely in the minds of befuddled GOP cheerleaders.

If you were actually following debates over housing policy back before the popping of the housing bubble, you'd have been aware that Barney Frank was a consistent voice against the idea that private ownership was the best way of addressing the housing needs of the poor. It was Bush and his "ownership society" zealots (now there's a phrase that's been stashed away in the GOP attic--along with "compassionate conservatism") who thought that private ownership was the ideal. Frank preferred the idea of state-owned housing.

This attempt by the GOP to pin the housing bubble on Frank is like something out of a novel by George Orwell. It's pure Big Lie B.S.--the only reason Frank has been singled out is because he reliably pushes other GOP buttons, being the only openly gay member of congress.

Gulper Eel: Dodd's done if the waitresses turn out in force next November...

If he's lucky they will be too busy getting ready for their Christmas wrapping.

Snot Monster from Outer Space: the only reason Frank has been singled out is because he reliably pushes other GOP buttons, being the only openly gay member of congress.

Funny, you could say that's the only reason Dems defend him. See how that works?

Edsel: I'm surprised Rorschach isn't getting more attention for his tough-on-crime stance.

I'd vote for Rorschach. But then again, I'd vote for Strawberry Shortcake. So my opinion probably isn't worth much.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: They should be doing more than blaming him. Drawn and quartered comes to mind. Tar and Feather?

Okay sparky, here's your chance: WHY should Barney Frank be "drawn and quartered"?

Take your time.

You know, the fannie and freddy mess. Maybe you have heard of it?

In 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

Just for starters.

Well at best he showed bad judgement and maybe he is a crook. What you fail to mention is that all these committees were Chaired by Republicans until 2007 with a Republican President 2008. At best Frank is as stupid/crooked as the Republicans that were truly in charge. The housing debacle was already irreversible by 2007.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: n 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

And so Frank, simply by defending Fannie and Freddie, caused the housing crisis single-handedly?

Um, okay.

Single handedly? No. VERY involved? Yea.

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That article offers no evidence of any kind in support of its claims other than the entirely irrelevant quotations you've already proffered above.

It also manages to insinuate that Frank, as the ranking minority member of the Financial Services Committee somehow managed to singlehandedly nix a regulatory scheme that was supported by the Bush administration and the Republican majority in Congress. That's quite a neat trick. Maybe they should explain just how Frank managed to do this.

mrshowrules: The housing debacle was already irreversible by 2007.

Not in 2003 or 2004. Irreversible maybe, but the impact could have been significantly less.

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3_Butt_Cheeks: Single handedly? No. VERY involved? Yea.

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You're operating on the false premise that the mortgage insurers caused the crisis? Sad. Top of the list for blame are actually the lenders, who happily lent to anyone because they knew they'd sell the mortgage on, and the investment banks, who demanded a constant supply of mortgage-backed securities.

And that was allowed to happen because of the deregulation of the banking industry in 1999 with a bill by... McCain's economic adviser, Phil Gramm.

Does Mitt own a house in Connecticut?

Snot Monster from Outer Space: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Dwight_Yeast: 3_Butt_Cheeks: n 2003, Frank said, "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

In 2004, Frank said at a hill hearing that a Office of the Federal Housing Enterprise Oversite (OFHEO) report of illegal activity by Fannie Mae does not "raise safety and soundness [of Fannie Mae investments] problems at issue".

And so Frank, simply by defending Fannie and Freddie, caused the housing crisis single-handedly?

Um, okay.

Single handedly? No. VERY involved? Yea.

Link (new window)

That article offers no evidence of any kind in support of its claims other than the entirely irrelevant quotations you've already proffered above.

It also manages to insinuate that Frank, as the ranking minority member of the Financial Services Committee somehow managed to singlehandedly nix a regulatory scheme that was supported by the Bush administration and the Republican majority in Congress. That's quite a neat trick. Maybe they should explain just how Frank managed to do this.

Yea, you're absolutely right. He was a powerless pawn in all of this.