Yeah, good luck with that...

and people wonder where illegal firearms come from...

They thought the guns were parting gifts.

BAD SUBY!!!!! An AR-15 is not an assult rifle. An AR-15 is semi-auto only. An M-16/M-4 is an assault rifle as they are select fire.

Even though the article says it, doesn't mean it's true. You will now be mercilessly ridiculed by the gun nut Farkers.

/Just got back from the gunshow.
//Picked up a NIB condition Calico M-100 w/walnut stock.

What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

I think I found the guy
http://www.clipaday.com/videos/guy-hit-in-head-with-50-caliber-ricochet

For the love of god, it's not an ASSAULT RIFLE. It is a RIFLE.

bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

ARmalite

//Picked up a NIB condition Calico M-100 w/walnut stock.


Crazy! I just got rid of my slightly used M-100 with hazelnut stock... The stock started going rancid on me, and I was tired of being called the "gun nut". Being named Philbert doesn't help either.

Here come the gun-pornographers.

bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

Armalite

Why do cops need AR's? The militarization of the police force is a bad thing IMO. Saw a local cop at starbucks the other day - he was straight PD, not SWAT, but still decked out like a storm trooper.

BTW Crosshair - could well have been select fire. You know cops are responsible enough for FA, while the lowly citizen would become a killing machine with one (dispite the fact that in most places CCW holders have a lower crime rate than the police force)

bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

ArmaLite

bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

The AR stands for Armalite dumb-ass.

Crosshair: An AR-15 is not an assult rifle.

Thank you.

What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

meerkat: bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

ARmalite

pwnt

cubicdissection: BTW Crosshair - could well have been select fire. You know cops are responsible enough for FA, while the lowly citizen would become a killing machine with one

If it was select fire then it was not an AR-15.

/down with the 86 ban

Am I the only one who finds this amusing, and not scary? Having a police cruiser stolen at a party and robbed is like having the fire station catch fire.

bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

It ARen't going to work in bad conditions.

/never should have abandoned the M-14

Why do cops need AR's? The militarization of the police force is a bad thing IMO.

See: North Hollywood + BofA robbery.

/at least, that's the excuse.

2wheeljunkie: Crosshair: An AR-15 is not an assult rifle.

Thank you.

What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

.556 mm

My favorite of the multiple responses to my question (which I could've Googled):

It ARen't going to work in bad conditions.

asscorethethird: bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

The AR stands for Armalite dumb-ass.

What makes him a dumbass for asking a question? A dumbass would be someone who gave an answer, but didn't even provide a link to wikipedia.

cubicdissection: Why do cops need AR's? The militarization of the police force is a bad thing IMO. Saw a local cop at starbucks the other day - he was straight PD, not SWAT, but still decked out like a storm trooper.


Simple. The North Hollywood Shootout, Homeland Security, The war on Terror and combined with the fact that most gang's these days could pass for Middle East militia and are probably better equipped than even that have left most Police forces in a state of feeling 'under siege' by foes who wear body armor and armor their cars with steel and plexiglass. When your possible enemy loadout includes AK-47 and 74's, Mac-10's, Uzi's, Deagles, M-4's, Automatic and pump action shotguns, heavy machine guns, American Made IED's, Molotov's, high powered hunting rifles....You see where I'm going with this? I wouldn't ask a cop to go out with a light tactical vest and a 9mm to fight organized crime, It'd be friggin suicide.

And before you say 'S.W.A.T Can handle all of that' - You're crazy - there aren't nearly enough swat trained officers - and they cant always be there whenever a situation develops. I Would much rather my Police force were all capable of addressing an extremely hostile situation - especially a subject wearing body armor - Immediately, instead of having to wait for a Swat team to respond to it, and potentially endangering the life of innocents. Frankly, I think our police forces ought to be equipped with AK's - Mostly because the 7.62 is much more capable of penetrating body armor than the 5.56 most american rifles use. Granted, it has a higher lethality rate, but there comes a time to pull the trigger.

Actually, the Nonlethal weapons up and coming are pretty sweet looking, and I hope our police forces get a chance to deploy them.

If you want people to own high-powered weapons - Fine - but understand your police forces are going to be equipped with the same, if not better, than anything a Civilian can conceivably own - because that policeman needs to know he can take you down if you abuse your weapon rights and start shooting at people.

ShillinTheVillain: 2wheeljunkie: Crosshair: An AR-15 is not an assult rifle.

Thank you.

What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

.556 mm

It's a needlegun?

cubicdissection: Why do cops need AR's? The militarization of the police force is a bad thing IMO.

Having a Patrol Rifle program has risen in popularity in the last few years due to incidents like the North Hollywood robbery, where officers were completely outgunned, and several school shootings, where people died while the cops were surrounding the building. Formerly, in an situation where shots were fired, police would surround the building, and wait for SWAT. However, that technique does not work well on "active shooters", or people who are trying to kill as many people as possible; the longer they wait, the more victims. So now cops are being issued rifles, for the express purpose of stopping an active shooter. Instead of containing the situation and waiting for backup and SWAT, the first 2 or 3 officers who arrive on scene with rifles go in and neutralize the shooter.

ShillinTheVillain: .556 mm

Wut? It shoots a half-millimeter projectile? Don't think so.

The AR is 5.56x45mm NATO (.223 Rem). The M-100 appears to come in .22LR or 9mm.

Disciple_of_Trogdor: cubicdissection: Why do cops need AR's? The militarization of the police force is a bad thing IMO. Saw a local cop at starbucks the other day - he was straight PD, not SWAT, but still decked out like a storm trooper.


Simple. The North Hollywood Shootout, Homeland Security, The war on Terror and combined with the fact that most gang's these days could pass for Middle East militia and are probably better equipped than even that have left most Police forces in a state of feeling 'under siege' by foes who wear body armor and armor their cars with steel and plexiglass. When your possible enemy loadout includes AK-47 and 74's, Mac-10's, Uzi's, Deagles, M-4's, Automatic and pump action shotguns, heavy machine guns, American Made IED's, Molotov's, high powered hunting rifles....You see where I'm going with this? I wouldn't ask a cop to go out with a light tactical vest and a 9mm to fight organized crime, It'd be friggin suicide.

And before you say 'S.W.A.T Can handle all of that' - You're crazy - there aren't nearly enough swat trained officers - and they cant always be there whenever a situation develops. I Would much rather my Police force were all capable of addressing an extremely hostile situation - especially a subject wearing body armor - Immediately, instead of having to wait for a Swat team to respond to it, and potentially endangering the life of innocents. Frankly, I think our police forces ought to be equipped with AK's - Mostly because the 7.62 is much more capable of penetrating body armor than the 5.56 most american rifles use. Granted, it has a higher lethality rate, but there comes a time to pull the trigger.

Actually, the Nonlethal weapons up and coming are pretty sweet looking, and I hope our police forces get a chance to deploy them.

If you want people to own high-powered weapons - Fine - but understand your police forces are going to be equipped with the same, if not better, than anything a Civilian can conceivably own - because that policeman needs to know he can take you down if you abuse your weapon rights and start shooting at people.

Ok, any responses from someone who's not completely hollywood educated on the subject?

asscorethethird:

The AR stands for Armalite dumb-ass.

'Tis better to ask the quesion and be thought a dumb-ass than not to ask - and be one.

/There are many people in the world who have never heard of AR-15 guns, never mind seen one
//Every illegal gun was once legal.

Cornwell: ShillinTheVillain: 2wheeljunkie: Crosshair: An AR-15 is not an assult rifle.

Thank you.

What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

.556 mm

It's a needlegun?

Damn that misplaced period.

Let it go, man, it's gone....

ShillinTheVillain: Damn that misplaced period.

Number 2 on the list of things you never want to hear from the woman you went out with 2 months ago.

Number 1? "You need to get checked for something."

Poe: Having a Patrol Rifle program has risen in popularity in the last few years due to incidents like the North Hollywood robbery, where officers were completely outgunned, and several school shootings, where people died while the cops were surrounding the building. Formerly, in an situation where shots were fired, police would surround the building, and wait for SWAT. However, that technique does not work well on "active shooters", or people who are trying to kill as many people as possible; the longer they wait, the more victims. So now cops are being issued rifles, for the express purpose of stopping an active shooter. Instead of containing the situation and waiting for backup and SWAT, the first 2 or 3 officers who arrive on scene with rifles go in and neutralize the shooter.

Then add your average donuteater and his general happiness with hardware, and wonder when someone makes a "personal decision" that he needs some heavier weaponry and opens up with 5.56 in a urban area.

I know who developed and patented a car safe system where the heavy weaponry is under a code lock, codes updated every 24 hours, for the sake of things like this. You call it in, and someone who has the authority to take the fall issues the order to go for heavy weaponry, giving the code at the same time. Strangely enough, nobody in law enforcement would even consider the system.

If you're in a situation where a regular sidearm and a shotgun doesn't cut things, you don't need a 5.56 rifle, you need back-up.

I remember when the local fish wrapper (new window) had a front page story about how the local cops were in an "arms race" with criminals....now i'll say once a decade we do have a widely publicized shoot-out somewhere in the US where 100 cops have to gun down a few bad guys with fully auto machine guns. But in this case I live in a town with 50,000 people, and the cops say they are in an arms race with crooks?

Nah, sounds more like militant police forces to me...I don't know many criminals in this state that roll with rifles and shotguns standard in their cars.

UNC_Samurai: bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

It ARen't going to work in bad conditions.

/never should have abandoned the M-14

wow. Do you get all your gun information from video games and movies? LOL

m-14 = military dinosaur

/bring back the garand!!!

ShillinTheVillain: Cornwell: ShillinTheVillain: 2wheeljunkie: Crosshair: An AR-15 is not an assult rifle.

Thank you.

What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

.556 mm

It's a needlegun?

Damn that misplaced period.

That's what she said!

/It takes a brave man to swim in the red waters, but it takes a hero to drink from it.

2wheeljunkie: What caliber is that M-100? .22LR? 9mm? How much?

22 rimfire. I got it in NIB condition for $650 with two 100 round drums and the rare wood thumbhole style wood stock as well as a scope mount and scope. I know someone who has two more 100 round drums that I plan to buy.

Tainted1: Ok, any responses from someone who's not completely hollywood educated on the subject?

Most civilian-grade ballistic protection can easily stop handgun rounds and shotgun pellets. A rifle is significantly more powerful, and can far more easily put down people who are wearing them. It's also much more accurate at range.

Green Scorpio: t makes him a dumbass for asking a question? A dumbass would be someone who gave an answer, but didn't even provide a link to wikipedia.

He wasnt asking a question, he was implying that AR stood for Assault Rifle.

Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? Who the fark are you talking to?

Ok I will turn it back in

SumoJeb: UNC_Samurai: bmihura: What does the "AR" stand for in "AR-15"?

It ARen't going to work in bad conditions.

/never should have abandoned the M-14

wow. Do you get all your gun information from video games and movies? LOL

m-14 = military dinosaur

/bring back the garand!!!

I like the Garand, if only for the 'pling' ejection of the clip. There's a place near where I live that sells and works on them. Cool place.

I do own a M1 Carbine that I inherited from my dad, but I think the Garand is a much cooler rifle.

If society is lucky, the pigs own weapons will be used against them.

Wise_Guy: I like the Garand, if only for the 'pling' ejection of the clip. There's a place near where I live that sells and works on them. Cool place.

I do own a M1 Carbine that I inherited from my dad, but I think the Garand is a much cooler rifle.

Link (pops) in case anyone was curious.

Cornwell: Then add your average donuteater and his general happiness with hardware, and wonder when someone makes a "personal decision" that he needs some heavier weaponry and opens up with 5.56 in a urban area.

The cops being issued these rifles are not just handed them and sent on their merry way, there is quite a bit of training and qualification involved, and failure will get you booted from the program Additionally, a personal decision has nothing to do with deploying it. If you get a call of shots fired, and you get on scene and shots are still being fired, you go in.

I know who developed and patented a car safe system where the heavy weaponry is under a code lock, codes updated every 24 hours, for the sake of things like this. You call it in, and someone who has the authority to take the fall issues the order to go for heavy weaponry, giving the code at the same time. Strangely enough, nobody in law enforcement would even consider the system.

Communications can break down, technology can fail, and when people are being killed, every second counts.

If you're in a situation where a regular sidearm and a shotgun doesn't cut things, you don't need a 5.56 rifle, you need back-up.

Yeah, you are in trouble, but imageine how the people who are completly unarmed are fairing.

Gun thread? went shooting earlier this morning, sucks ammo costs so much lately.


my FNH FNP-40

Crosshair: BAD SUBY!!!!! An AR-15 is not an assult rifle. An AR-15 is semi-auto only. An M-16/M-4 is an assault rifle as they are select fire.

Even though the article says it, doesn't mean it's true. You will now be mercilessly ridiculed by the gun nut Farkers.

/Just got back from the gunshow.
//Picked up a NIB condition Calico M-100 w/walnut stock.


Obama says it is, it must be true.

I've got a case of VG-12's. These would be the VeGamite 12 ouncers.
Drop a man in ten minutes...

Cornwell: Poe: If you're in a situation where a regular sidearm and a shotgun doesn't cut things, you don't need a 5.56 rifle, you need back-up.

Bingo.

I think a lot of it stems from the price that we pay for police. Its pretty low, for the job they do anyway. If we doubled the cops budgets, gave them better training and a paycheck that would bring in more professionals I think it would go a lot further than slapping heavier body armor on a already overweight and out of shape law enforcer and then giving him some 30'round capacity wonder weapon.

I am not saying don't give cops the same firepower as they are facing on the streets, I am saying don't "Just" give them that firepower without the training and weeding out of chit burds, otherwise you are going to a ton of people getting shot that don't rate it because Joe 15$ an hour got scared and dumped 3 mags at a car full of vato's.