And the circle of life continues...

supply and demand biatches

It is still higher now than it was before those huge price increases.

Awww shiat, here we go again.
Damn it, I live in Michigan too, and becuase of our winters, and my job, I HAVE to have a 4-wheel drive (currently a Jeep Cherokee).

Man... I wanted to have fun this summer, but this is gonna spike gas again... stupid people with thier stupid buying stuff and stupid economics. Stupid


:::pout:::

People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

Prices have been crawling steadily upwards once more, especially in the DFW metroplex. I dunno what that biatch is talking about.

detfrost1:
Man... I wanted to have fun this summer, but this is gonna spike gas again... stupid people with thier stupid buying stuff and stupid economics. Stupid


Don't worry, by summer no one will have money to buy gas - even at 2 bucks a gallon.

twfeline: People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

Trust me, if I didn't have 2 more years to pay off my Jeep, and I didn't live in Michigan, I wouldn't drive a "gas guzzler". However where I work, and live, and the fact that our state never has the money to clear roads, its a must have.

(Though if i could afford it, I'd have a hybrid for the summer, and a 4x4 for the winter).

twfeline: People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

I use a pickup truck to haul solar panels and to do maintenance at several wind farms in Illinois. What now biatches?

detfrost1: Awww shiat, here we go again.
Damn it, I live in Michigan too, and becuase of our winters, and my job, I HAVE to have a 4-wheel drive (currently a Jeep Cherokee).

Man... I wanted to have fun this summer, but this is gonna spike gas again... stupid people with thier stupid buying stuff and stupid economics. Stupid


:::pout:::

This same thing. My trailblazer gets ~22 mpg highway, but I have to have it in the winter for work (I drive 5-600 miles a week along the lakeshore). At the peak prices I was paying $80 a tank, but there wasn't much I could do about it.

Shhhh, don't tell anyone, but i'm gonna go down on you...
And you're gonna love it...
But it's only going to be long enough to let you start enjoying it...
Then i'm gonna come back up again and fark you, big time...
Lots of love,
Fuel Prices

Why oh why can't somebody build a four cylinder diesel light pickup truck with a manual? Utility and decent mileage.

TooMuchToDo: twfeline: People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

I use a pickup truck to haul solar panels and to do maintenance at several wind farms in Illinois. What now biatches?

High five or Fist bump your choice, awesome post.

twfeline: People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

So you ride a bike or at least a small motor scooter right?

Or are you just inordinately proud of the fact that your car uses 15% less gas and therefore you are "doing your part"?

Not in my America, good sir. Those record fuel prices were just the sort of thing to wake our great nation into the realities of energy dependence, conservation, and maybe not sprawling our cities into wastelands where the same 8 or 9 restaurant chains and 10 or 11 retail outlets pervert the landscape. Sure, there are people in commie havens like Europe who may be distracted by American Idol or how shiatty Katie Holmes looks lately, but not my fellow Americans. I feel bad for those of you not privileged enough to share in the wisdom of my countrymen. To suggest that we didn't lear...I don't have the heart to keep this up.

beer4breakfast: Why oh why can't somebody build a four cylinder diesel light pickup truck with a manual? Utility and decent mileage.

With on the fly 4x4 both low and high. Don't forget that, its ABSOLUTELY critical. I don't want any of this rear wheel or front wheel only shiat, when I suddenly have 14 inches of lake michigan sitting in my driveway.

-- Or my absolute favorite, in March/April, when we get those flash freezes where the roads that are all soaked with rain turn into ice.

Remember when gas prices first hit $2 a gallon and everyone screamed bloody murder?

Then it hit $4.

Well, that achieved the miraculous result of convincing the public that $2 a gallon is cheap.

Now maybe we can get back to driving decent cars. I am thinking that detroit goes back to building cars back like they did in the 50s and 60s, instead of the tinfoil pieces of crap that we have today. Then the buyers will come running back and it will be all good again.

Midnight Rambler: Well, that achieved the miraculous result of convincing the public that $2 a gallon is cheap.

THIS.

Does the "lowest price allowed by law" thing make anybody go "hmm"?

Surely that's tobacco and beer?

If I live five miles from work and drive a truck, and you live twenty miles from work and drive a Prius, you harm the environment worse than me.

/actually six miles from work
//need something to pull my boat

detfrost1: TooMuchToDo: twfeline:

I use a pickup truck to haul solar panels and to do maintenance at several wind farms in Illinois. What now biatches?

High five or Fist bump your choice, awesome post.

Yup, if you really want to be all out eco, go live in a forrest and grow some tomatoes, and even then.

Higher gas prices are part of the plan (new window)

bunner: Does the "lowest price allowed by law" thing make anybody go "hmm"?

Surely that's tobacco and beer?

It's legit. Not sure of the details, but companies are prohibited from selling too cheaply. This is to keep Wal-Mart, etc. from dominating the fuel delivery business.

Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?

nubbin: Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?

WHAT THE FARK!?

When gas went up I seriously modified my driving habits. After it went down I didn't change back. Considering a bike and a scooter also. I have no desire to be dependent on something so unpredictable.

detfrost1: twfeline: People with gas-guzzlers are squandering our natural resources (and polluting our air), simply because they can afford to.

Why can't they use some of that money for a good cause, rather than sending it out the tailpipe?

/Priorities. Ours are really messed up in this country.

Trust me, if I didn't have 2 more years to pay off my Jeep, and I didn't live in Michigan, I wouldn't drive a "gas guzzler". However where I work, and live, and the fact that our state never has the money to clear roads, its a must have.

(Though if i could afford it, I'd have a hybrid for the summer, and a 4x4 for the winter).

One of my friends from teachers' college does something like this, as he took a posting in a tiny little town in the French alps. He rides a motorcycle for maybe 8 months out of the year, but once the weather turns, he hops into his 4WD Volvo wagon. And if he needs to move big things during the summer, he's got that too. The extra cost of insuring two vehicles is more than offset by what he saves on fuel (aided no doubt by the fact that gasoline hovers around €1.10/liter there). Works out well for him.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

As soon as the US economy shows signs of recovery speculators will flood into commodities and drive the price sky high once more.

Pope George Ringo: Enjoy it while it lasts.

As soon as the US economy shows signs of recovery speculators will flood into commodities and drive the price sky high once more.

And then we'll wonder why we complained so much about re-investing in public transportation.

Pope George Ringo: Enjoy it while it lasts.

As soon as the US economy shows signs of recovery speculators will flood into commodities and drive the price sky high once more.

Man I wish I had the money/know how to get in on that, but I don't think the $750 in my savings account is going to be enough for any investor to take me seriously, online or off.

detfrost1: Pope George Ringo: Enjoy it while it lasts.

As soon as the US economy shows signs of recovery speculators will flood into commodities and drive the price sky high once more.

Man I wish I had the money/know how to get in on that, but I don't think the $750 in my savings account is going to be enough for any investor to take me seriously, online or off.

$750 in savings? Way to rub it in our faces, blowhard!

I have a 1991 Toyota Celica. I have a few modifications on it; I get an adverage of 36 to the gallon. I had a bet with someone that if I graduated from college in 2001, he would buy me an SUV of my choice. I failed to see the allure of such a deal, and the allure of a degree that would have been obsolete 6 months after I graduated.

Newer and/or bigger is not always better.

nubbin: Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?

..aaaaand this guy wins for winningest post that has ever been posted.

Moar!

detfrost1: WHAT THE FARK!?

Seconded.

earthworm2.0: I have a 1991 Toyota Celica. I have a few modifications on it; I get an adverage of 36 to the gallon. I had a bet with someone that if I graduated from college in 2001, he would buy me an SUV of my choice. I failed to see the allure of such a deal, and the allure of a degree that would have been obsolete 6 months after I graduated.

Newer and/or bigger is not always better.

Nice try, but you can't put a positive spin on a GED and a busted-ass old hoopdee

The price of gas didn't affect my driving that much (because I mostly drive to/from work). I just bought less of other shiat.

Here are about two years of my gas tracking (my car takes premium, subtract 10 cents for regular, 20 cents for low).

Date - Price - Total - Gallons - Days (since last fill)

06/13/2006 $3.50 $50.00 14.29 gal
06/23/2006 $3.40 $50.00 14.71 gal 10 days
07/07/2006 $3.60 $50.00 13.89 gal 14 days
07/18/2006 $3.55 $60.00 16.91 gal 11 days
07/27/2006 $3.50 $50.00 14.29 gal 9 days
08/08/2006 $3.60 $50.00 13.89 gal 12 days
08/18/2006 $3.56 $50.00 14.05 gal 10 days
08/31/2006 $3.30 $50.00 15.16 gal 13 days
09/10/2006 $3.20 $48.02 15.01 gal 10 days
09/22/2006 $3.00 $48.30 16.11 gal 12 days
10/04/2006 $2.80 $41.84 14.95 gal 12 days
10/18/2006 $2.63 $40.00 15.21 gal 14 days
10/28/2006 $2.64 $37.50 14.21 gal 10 days
11/07/2006 $2.64 $39.19 14.85 gal 10 days
11/16/2006 $2.74 $40.00 14.60 gal 9 days
11/30/2006 $2.70 $40.00 14.82 gal 14 days
12/11/2006 $2.76 $43.60 15.80 gal 11 days
01/02/2007 $2.76 $20.00 7.25 gal 22 days
01/11/2007 $2.86 $40.00 13.99 gal 9 days
01/23/2007 $2.76 $39.62 14.36 gal 12 days
02/03/2007 $2.80 $40.89 14.61 gal 11 days
02/10/2007 $2.90 $40.00 13.80 gal 7 days
02/18/2007 $2.93 $40.00 13.65 gal 8 days
03/02/2007 $3.16 $40.00 12.66 gal 12 days
03/10/2007 $3.36 $46.69 13.90 gal 8 days
03/22/2007 $3.42 $50.00 14.62 gal 12 days
04/01/2007 $3.50 $55.94 15.99 gal 10 days
04/11/2007 $3.50 $40.00 11.43 gal 10 days
04/21/2007 $3.60 $60.00 16.67 gal 10 days
04/29/2007 $3.66 $50.00 13.66 gal 8 days
05/09/2007 $3.70 $45.00 12.17 gal 10 days
05/18/2007 $3.64 $50.00 13.74 gal 9 days
05/26/2007 $3.60 $50.00 13.89 gal 8 days
06/07/2007 $3.56 $50.00 14.05 gal 12 days
06/20/2007 $3.40 $55.37 16.29 gal 13 days
06/30/2007 $3.36 $40.00 11.91 gal 10 days
07/05/2007 $3.30 $40.00 12.12 gal 5 days
07/15/2007 $3.30 $50.00 15.16 gal 10 days
07/25/2007 $3.21 $48.12 15.00 gal 10 days
08/04/2007 $3.18 $50.00 15.73 gal 10 days
08/15/2007 $3.10 $45.00 14.52 gal 11 days
08/25/2007 $2.96 $40.00 13.52 gal 10 days
09/04/2007 $3.00 $45.00 15.01 gal 10 days
09/17/2007 $3.11 $40.00 12.87 gal 13 days
09/28/2007 $3.14 $22.23 7.08 gal 11 days
10/07/2007 $3.16 $40.00 12.66 gal 9 days
10/18/2007 $3.36 $50.00 14.89 gal 11 days
11/02/2007 $3.40 $50.00 14.71 gal 15 days
11/11/2007 $3.49 $40.00 11.46 gal 9 days
11/18/2007 $3.66 $58.38 15.96 gal 7 days
12/04/2007 $3.56 $50.00 14.05 gal 16 days
12/13/2007 $3.50 $50.00 14.29 gal 9 days
12/21/2007 $3.46 $52.40 15.15 gal 8 days
12/31/2007 $3.56 $50.25 14.12 gal 10 days
01/09/2008 $3.60 $50.00 13.89 gal 9 days
01/14/2008 $3.50 $46.94 13.42 gal 5 days
01/23/2008 $3.44 $50.00 14.54 gal 9 days
02/02/2008 $3.30 $40.00 12.12 gal 10 days
02/09/2008 $3.30 $40.00 12.12 gal 7 days
02/16/2008 $3.40 $45.00 13.24 gal 7 days
02/27/2008 $3.70 $45.00 12.17 gal 11 days
03/06/2008 $3.80 $50.00 13.16 gal 8 days
03/17/2008 $3.86 $45.00 11.66 gal 11 days
03/26/2008 $3.84 $59.14 15.41 gal 9 days
04/07/2008 $4.00 $50.00 12.50 gal 12 days
04/15/2008 $4.10 $50.00 12.20 gal 8 days
04/24/2008 $4.16 $50.00 12.02 gal 9 days
05/03/2008 $4.16 $64.04 15.40 gal 9 days
05/20/2008 $4.24 $60.00 14.15 gal 17 days
05/30/2008 $4.50 $60.00 13.34 gal 10 days
06/11/2008 $4.86 $70.00 14.41 gal 12 days
06/22/2008 $4.86 $70.00 14.41 gal 11 days
07/02/2008 $4.80 $65.00 13.54 gal 10 days
07/14/2008 $4.74 $74.10 15.64 gal 12 days
07/24/2008 $4.56 $70.00 15.35 gal 10 days
08/02/2008 $4.40 $56.11 12.76 gal 9 days
08/13/2008 $4.26 $62.25 14.62 gal 11 days
08/24/2008 $4.12 $55.70 13.52 gal 11 days
09/04/2008 $4.06 $60.00 14.78 gal 11 days
09/16/2008 $3.90 $60.00 15.39 gal 12 days
09/25/2008 $3.86 $54.19 14.04 gal 9 days
10/08/2008 $3.70 $49.12 13.28 gal 13 days
10/15/2008 $3.60 $50.00 13.89 gal 7 days
10/28/2008 $3.24 $40.00 12.35 gal 13 days
11/06/2008 $2.80 $43.36 15.49 gal 9 days
11/13/2008 $2.66 $40.00 15.04 gal 7 days
11/23/2008 $2.40 $33.75 14.07 gal 10 days
12/06/2008 $2.00 $30.93 15.47 gal 13 days
12/16/2008 $1.92 $29.87 15.57 gal 10 days
12/31/2008 $2.06 $25.90 12.58 gal 15 days
01/08/2009 $2.18 $35.85 16.45 gal 8 days
01/21/2009 $2.36 $34.19 14.49 gal 13 days
01/31/2009 $2.30 $32.45 14.11 gal 10 days
02/12/2009 $2.50 $39.42 15.77 gal 12 days
02/24/2009 $2.50 $38.23 15.30 gal 12 days
03/07/2009 $2.40 $36.09 15.04 gal 11 days

nubbin: Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?

The brilliant part of this post is that it leaves me with the nagging suspicion that you are in fact a complete idiot. Well done! Or is it...?

Rode my bike to work last year, last week, and will ride next year.

studebaker hoch: Rode my bike to work last year, last week, and will ride next year.

You think you're better than me?

All cars (except the 500 or so electric cars) are gas guzzlers. You are not exempt from responsibility for this problem just because your car get a few more miles per gallon than someone else's vehicle.

We need lifestyle changes, not vehicle changes.

I moved closer to my job, so I can walk or ride my bike to work. I've only driven my car once this month for any reason.
Not everyone can do this, but everyone can do SOMETHING to reduce the amount of oil we continue to use.

Good thing the world economy crashed to lower those prices.

detfrost1
nubbin: Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?

WHAT THE FARK!?

I had nothing to do with it!

inconceivable: a bike like that is good for riding for speed, but not practical for commuting/ daily use

something like this would be better:



/hotlinked from ecovelo.info

More than having a bicycle or a train pass, I think it's about having a plan.

Manage your life so you can get to your source of income easily without reliance on a fuel source that can get taken away from you.

Gasoline is a known bad bet.

man, I was hoping it would stay low so I could find a cheap Civic. Guess I'll stick with the trusty old Impala

nubbin: Every time I go out and fill up my tank, I also fill up a five gallon can and add it to my emptied out hot tub, lid it and lock it up. Since 1997 I've been doing this, have only had 8 minor accidents, one charred puppy but mostly minor accidents. Does chlorine affect my mileage?


Well done ....Well done indeed ....

*golf clap*

studebaker hoch: More than having a bicycle or a train pass, I think it's about having a plan.

Manage your life so you can get to your source of income easily without reliance on a fuel source that can get taken away from you.

Gasoline is a known bad bet.

Easier said than done my man. Don't get me wrong it is a good plan, but I can live in the same city as my ex who shares cusdody of the kids and we exchange them three or four times a week or I can live in the same city I work in. Either way I am driving.

reverbblue: inconceivable: a bike like that is good for riding for speed, but not practical for commuting/ daily use

something like this would be better:



/hotlinked from ecovelo.info

Me likey. Replace the dérailleur with a hub gear, bolt on some lights, and I'm sold.