Depends on how attractive the woman is.

Shauna O'Brien is my favorite. Yours?

If I could post pictures, I would post Cuddy from House. But I fail consistently at posting pictures.

The article was worth reading for the caption "Jodie Marsh empowers herself."

Crosshair: Depends on how attractive the woman is.

Hole in one! HOLE IN ONE!

Do soft porn stars really dress all that differently from regular porn stars?

Let's see some photographic evidence to help us decide.

This thread is useless ...

TL;DR

Am I the only one who feels like his IQ dropped trying to read that article?

Maybe I need my first cup of coffee.

Prince of Pluto: Crosshair: Depends on how attractive the woman is.

Hole in one! HOLE IN ONE!

Or many, depending on the girl.

Is there really a difference between exploiting and empowering onesself?

Ikimasen: Cuddy from House

She's definitely empowered something on my end.



/quick & sfw :)

she's empowering herself to be exploited.

Let's get to the 'exploiting herself' soft porn, dammit!

karlmer: Is there really a difference between exploiting and empowering onesself?

Empowered: When a woman performs an act (e.g. dressing ... "down"?) so as to arouse attention.

Exploited: When a man responds (thinks, talks etc.) on the above.

But you knew that.

I don't really care if is empowering or exploitation, I am tired of the double standard. When I try going out showing a little man cleavage (Unzip halfway, and make sure you are commando) I get immediately kicked out of everywhere. Bastards.

The Angry Hand of God: I don't really care if is empowering or exploitation, I am tired of the double standard. When I try going out showing a little man cleavage (Unzip halfway, and make sure you are commando) I get immediately kicked out of everywhere. Bastards.

Because most men's likelihoods depend on being taken seriously.

The Angry Hand of God: I don't really care if is empowering or exploitation, I am tired of the double standard. When I try going out showing a little man cleavage (Unzip halfway, and make sure you are commando) I get immediately kicked out of everywhere. Bastards.

I don't want to see your 'little man'.

Po-TAY-to, Po-TA-to.

There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

Nakito: There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

Shannon Tweed.

/what do I win?

What EXPLOITED looks like.

Nakito: There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

That chick from Sex in the City.

/don't care enough to look up her name.

Nakito: There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

Angela Lansbury.

Someone care to explain to me how a person can "exploit themselves"?

Fine reporting there Lou...fine reporting.

came here for more soft core porn star pics, will return later.

karlmer: Is there really a difference between exploiting and empowering onesself?

Empowering: Dressing the way you like, even in a sexy way, but not slutty. If guys hit on you, take it as a compliment and deal with them as you wish.

Exploiting: Dressing slutty and then being outraged when guys hit on you.

Nakito: There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

GIS brings out the dead...

I read the whole thing.

I don't get it. She said that newspapers were about hard news, sport, politics, foreign news and business - things worthy of the attention of busy men.

When is the last time any guy has had a good conversation (with a woman involved and contributing) about the current economy or how to best invest your money, or for that matter the more substantial parts of renovating your house or if replacing the engine in your car is more economical than buying a new one and why, or even the best places to plant the flower garden this year for pollination and aesthetic purposes. (Yes, I plant flowers, you got a problem with that?)

If women want roles that put them in charge, DO THE WORK! If you do the work, everyone else will happily take your input and later your orders. Guys hate it when a woman tries to contribute without having the faintest idea what's going on. THAT'S what makes you look vapid and shallow, not because of your XX.

In my IT class we had two, TWO women who joined up, both dropped out by week 4. One went into culinary arts, the other vanished from the campus entirely. The women I'm seeing going into positions of power now are Daddy Girls or a woman hired by another woman. I'm not saying this is fact everywhere, just my little corner of the world, but in both cases neither were remotely qualified for their jobs and it showed, immediately.

/end rant

boatman:

Someone care to explain to me how a person can "exploit themselves"?

It starts with a tickled scrotum.

ZAZ: The article was worth reading for the caption "Jodie Marsh empowers herself."

I liked "The pinnacle of achievement for some".

I also liked the last sentence of the article, and the paragraph preceding it with the Milne quote. Thought that brought it all together rather well.

eraser8: Do soft porn stars really dress all that differently from regular porn stars?

Let's see some photographic evidence to help us decide.

I thought soft porn was just hardcore porn with certain angles/scenes cut out?

Hence there's no such thing as a softcore porn star.

If you're dressed like a ho, I'm gonna assume 'ho'. Just how it goes, ladies.

Nakito: There is no such thing as a soft-porn "star." How do we know this?

Name one.

Misty Mundae

ajgeek: When is the last time any guy has had a good conversation (with a woman involved and contributing)

Wow, you've got little to no experience with women, huh? My girlfriends and guy friends can easily wax political/economical/scientific/philosophical as well as debate the finer points of who's going to win Top Chef. Hate to break this to you, but women can be just as informed about current events and gardening as you.

If you're seeing women being promoted only by other women, that's more to do with most corporations still being very much a Boys' Club. I've been a manager in 3 major corporations in the past 12 years--all Fortune 100. Of 15 or so colleagues in each company, I've been either the ONLY woman or maybe 1 of 2. When I went for a promotion at one company, I was told I had just as much experience as the guy I was up against, but they were "more comfortable" giving it to the guy.

You're not going to find those well-informed women at a bar, mind you, but we most definitely exist.

ajgeek: If women want roles that put them in charge, DO THE WORK!

STFU and eat the sammich I made you!

I, for one, am appalled by the overt sexual oppression of womyn and how they are viewed as nothing more than repositories for male lust and the manner in which they are forced to...

Ah... sorry, never mind.

so lost.

Gigglecream: The Angry Hand of God: I don't really care if is empowering or exploitation, I am tired of the double standard. When I try going out showing a little man cleavage (Unzip halfway, and make sure you are commando) I get immediately kicked out of everywhere. Bastards.

Because most men's likelihoods depend on being taken seriously.

You hit the nail on the head. When women dress this way they are not taken seriously. I know from experience. Women should only dress "skank" for 'special purposes'.
/not obscure?

SAN66: eraser8: Do soft porn stars really dress all that differently from regular porn stars?

Let's see some photographic evidence to help us decide.

I thought soft porn was just hardcore porn with certain angles/scenes cut out?

Hence there's no such thing as a softcore porn star.

No, soft-core porn is the stuff that's shown on Cinemax. Shannon Tweed is a soft-core porn star.

SAN66: I thought soft porn was just hardcore porn with certain angles/scenes cut out?

No, the scenes aren't just cut out, they aren't done in the first place. Soft core means no penetration, and no blow jobs. There's even a wiki article (lol)!

Softcore is what you'd find on skinimax, I think. They show breasts, and they pretend to have sex. And that's fine with me. Everything is fine up to the point where they do a closeup on a guy's face. Even if you're gay, or even if you're a straight girl, I don't think you find sweaty guy-face arousing. Bottom line: soft core porn is teh stoopid.

Busted,



Did you all notice the photoshop error of the mystery hand. Her hand couldn't possibly contort to be grabbing herself like that without us seeing her arm in the photo, and yet her arm goes off photo in another angle. Shenanigans.

TFA said nothing. Bad greenlight. Want my click back.

VeritasSemper: Her hand couldn't possibly contort to be grabbing herself like that

It's called an elbow. Look it up.

That pic isn't photoshopped.

VeritasSemper: Busted,



Did you all notice the photoshop error of the mystery hand. Her hand couldn't possibly contort to be grabbing herself like that without us seeing her arm in the photo, and yet her arm goes off photo in another angle. Shenanigans.

I don't arms can do that???? And also look at the pixels in the

you get the idea

ajgeek penned: "I'm not saying this is fact everywhere, just my little corner of the world, but in both cases neither were remotely qualified for their jobs and it showed, immediately."

Your corner is indeed very small. I work at a dotcom which has a very decent ratio of capable women. And by capable, I mean (within my team) talented developers and the most amazing QA I've ever seen (she handles Herculean tasks without breaking a sweat).

From my perspective a good part of the problem rests with parents who set extremely low expectations for their female children. I honestly knew of one woman who was proud of the fact that her teenage daughter did not have to pluck her eyebrows. That's it, that's all this grubby fiend could come up with as a point of pride. That parents like this exist should make *anyone* angry as hell.

The other half is that women that "do" the work are many times overlooked for promotion when they don't speak up enough and they just give up. I think they take it for granted that managers will have some manner of social ability to sense what employees want when in fact they have no idea. You have to speak up, and speak up often or be overlooked.

VeritasSemper: Busted,

Did you all notice the photoshop error of the mystery hand. Her hand couldn't possibly contort to be grabbing herself like that without us seeing her arm in the photo, and yet her arm goes off photo in another angle. Shenanigans.

I can grab my man bosom like that, without photoshop.

I, for one, would like to welcome our new soft-core porn styled overlords.

Mommy likes it hot