Hypocrisy is an ugly biatch, ain't she?

I am absolutely shocked by this development.

Do as we say, don't do as we do.

/Up to their necks, as usual, in do-do.

Seriously, they are going to be outraged that you are mocking their outrage.

Oh, bull - just another example of of the left-wing media looking for something to pin on the their superiors. They tell you this stuff, but do you look? Do you ask the person in question if it was really an earmark? Do you even take into account that the commie-loving un-American pinko muckrakers are attacking Rush the journalists at Fox? You think REPUBLICANS would stoop to the moral degradation of the Democrats??? THEY DID NOT! IT'S A LIE! A VICIOUS LIE PERPETRATED BY THE MSM!!!

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!

I am shocked by this development! How could a conservative ever be a hypocrite?

"Earmarks" are the new "Values." Expect to hear more about them in the coming typhoon of bullshiat (the next election cycle)

"Do not interrupt your enemy while he is in the middle of making a mistake" -- Napoleon

"Earmarks" is the new "Socialism." Another word you hear a lot of, yet no one ever seems to know what it means.

Both sides play this game equally well.

I'll bet some of that crap was put in there by republicans just so that they CAN make a fuss about it when the democrats sign it.

This shiat is pathetic. The Republican party has turned away from conservatism and lectures the Democrats as if they are the stalwarts of it. Our country is screwed.

Obama's pledge to end earmarks was laughable when he made it, except maybe to the lib farkers on here who will try to defend this abomination of a bill. Republicans throwing in earmark after earmark while counseling thriftiness is so hypocritical it makes me want to throw up.

And this is why the Republicans have lost control of congress and the white house.

But hey, they sure showed those gay marriage people the whois and whatfors, eh?

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh, bull - just another example of of the left-wing media looking for something to pin on the their superiors. They tell you this stuff, but do you look? Do you ask the person in question if it was really an earmark? Do you even take into account that the commie-loving un-American pinko muckrakers are attacking Rush the journalists at Fox? You think REPUBLICANS would stoop to the moral degradation of the Democrats??? THEY DID NOT! IT'S A LIE! A VICIOUS LIE PERPETRATED BY THE MSM!!!

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!

Nice. I LOL'ed.

adamgreeney: "Earmarks" is the new "Socialism." Another word you hear a lot of, yet no one ever seems to know what it means.

I'm sure gullible voters falling for the "earmarks are teh evil" bullshiat are driving on roads and bridges and using other public accommodations that were paid for by earmarks.

jake_lex: I'm sure gullible voters falling for the "earmarks are teh evil" bullshiat are driving on roads and bridges and using other public accommodations that were paid for by earmarks.

It's the same thing as congressional approval ratings. People approve of their congressperson's job, but not that of Congress as a whole.

See, if they get some more money, for like 8th time, to try and stop the west end of my street from flooding every time we get an inch of rain, it's good money. We deserve it.

However, money to stop New Orleans from flooding is obviously a boondoggle, a huge waste of money. Huge cereal bowl and shouldn't be there and like such as.

It's just the way we are, in general. Earmarks that affect me are ok, they're good because they help me. Earmarks that affect someone other than me are bad, because they don't affect me. So they're obviously a waste of money that could be spent helping me.

Okay. People. Earmarks are only a small problem. And in reality, they are always going to happen. Many of them are useful projects, and there simply isn't enough time to debate everything individually, especially in the Senate.

Anybody who has ever been on a committee that has to deal with lots of work understands that you have to combine things to get stuff done in a timely manner.

Instead of the media screaming "OMG DEMOCRATS ARE USING EARMARKS. OMG REPUBLICANS ARE HYPOCRITES. OMG RUSH LIMBAUGH IS AS FAT AS A HIPPO!" they need to 1) do what this group did and compile a database, but 2) put together a profile of how valueable and needed these projects are. And this is the great disappointment of cable news- you have 24 hours a day to report this and do actual research with your vast sums of money and instead you sit there and perform fellatio on each other like a bunch of frat boys after the mixer with the fat sorority.

radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks was laughable when he made it,


... uh, do you have the candidates confused?

kmmontandon: radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks was laughable when he made it,


... uh, do you have the candidates confused?

This isn't about who said what, it's about both sides being equally wrong. And if we have to distribute the statements that were made a bit differently than they actually happened in order to keep the balance then so be it.

Mordant:
This isn't about who said what, it's about both sides being equally wrong. And if we have to distribute the statements that were made a bit differently than they actually happened in order to keep the balance then so be it.

IN reality, though, I don't remember Obama making that pledge. I remember him talking about how they were only a small problem, especially compared to our other obligations, like $18 billion annually.

Can someone with a connection to reality verify or correct me? I'm curious now.

radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks


CITATION NEEDED

Can we admit that "earmarks" aren't all bad, maybe not even mostly bad, and that "pork" is just like "big government", "intrusive government", and "nation building," something that really is only bad when the other guy does it?

The Repulicans have NOTHING left to contribute. Ah - Yes -
the money of the super-rich! We want that! We have earned it!

Business as usual.
Shocking.

A. Snatchfold: radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks


CITATION NEEDED

That was McCain.

Duh.

No politician believes earmarks - or anything else - is "good" or "bad," except their own agenda. "Ours is 'good' and the other one is 'bad'."

Politicians screaming about earmarks are like politicians citing the Constitution: convenient if it can be used against your opponent, and open to interpretation when your opponent can use them against you.

This is all a show, folks - a soap opera that has no end.

None of the characters have an ounce of virtue that can't be swiftly exposed as covering for a "shocking" sinister vice, and the plot is motivated by irresponsible reactions rather than purposeful action and principled responses.

I am *insert your name here*'s total lack of surprise.

SynthLord:
No politician believes earmarks - or anything else - is "good" or "bad," except their own agenda. "Ours is 'good' and the other one is 'bad'."

Politicians screaming about earmarks are like politicians citing the Constitution: convenient if it can be used against your opponent, and open to interpretation when your opponent can use them against you.

This is all a show, folks - a soap opera that has no end.

None of the characters have an ounce of virtue that can't be swiftly exposed as covering for a "shocking" sinister vice, and the plot is motivated by irresponsible reactions rather than purposeful action and principled responses.

Did a politician touch you as a child? Or is there some other reason why you have apparently zero trust in humanity?

Sheesh. Politics may seem bad, but it is not some proxy for a George Orwell novel.

Also you have to have to love it, "He said he'd end earmarks! Now excuse me while I add an earmark to this bill...".

Weaver95: And this is why the Republicans have lost control of congress and the white house.

But hey, they sure showed those gay marriage people the whois and whatfors, eh?

Without even a citation from the BIBUL!

Claire McCaskill rips Reps over earmark hypocrisy:

youtube (new window)

brainiac-dumdum: A. Snatchfold: radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks


CITATION NEEDED

That was McCain.

Not it wasn't

HAHAHA! I knew it. Just a few days ago, no one could find in the bill the bit about astronomy, and they all took that to mean that McCain was talking out his ass. And lo and behold, there it is, right in the list of earmarks to Hawai'i. Classic.

stolibro: brainiac-dumdum: A. Snatchfold: radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks


CITATION NEEDED

That was McCain.

Not it wasn't

From your link:

Obama and Biden will slash earmarks to no greater than 1994 levels and ensure all spending decisions are open to the public.

stolibro: brainiac-dumdum: A. Snatchfold: radioshack:

Obama's pledge to end earmarks


CITATION NEEDED

That was McCain.

Not it wasn't


Uh, you might want to read that a little more closely.

Wanting targeted spending to be justified is not the same as wanting to eliminate earmarks.

stolibro: Not it wasn't

All that mentions is being more open and transparent.

No, we can't admit earmarks aren't bad, because that would require us to ignore the overwhelming truth that they are. And ignore that Obama said he'd ban them and hasn't. Nowhere in the constitution is this type of power given to leglislators. A REAL ban on earmarks needs to be instituted, and porkers of BOTH parties like Byrd and Shelby need to be drummed out of office.

Even the so-called "good" projects are ones that could probably be done better and more cheaply by the states or private interests (see, Center for the Intrepid). If earmarks were eliminated every taxpaying citizen in the US could get an extra $1,000 refund on their taxes. That could really help the economy right now, don't you think?

Synthlord is right about politicians. 10 years of watching Daley, Blagojevich and the rest in Illinois have convinced me of that.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: HAHAHA! I knew it. Just a few days ago, no one could find in the bill the bit about astronomy, and they all took that to mean that McCain was talking out his ass. And lo and behold, there it is, right in the list of earmarks to Hawai'i. Classic.

Stimulus bill =! budget.

You folks keep intentionally mixing the two up. I expect better than that from you at least.

stolibro:
Not it wasn't

According to that, he promises to cut them to 1994 levels, which is approximately $8 billion a year. So, of course, if this bill passes that will eat up any remainder to help him keep the promise. (Assuming he signs it).

However, this year will be a spending year, so look to many promises being fulfilled next year anyways.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: HAHAHA! I knew it. Just a few days ago, no one could find in the bill the bit about astronomy, and they all took that to mean that McCain was talking out his ass. And lo and behold, there it is, right in the list of earmarks to Hawai'i. Classic.


What the hell are you talking about?

radioshack: This shiat is pathetic. The Republican party has turned away from conservatism and lectures the Democrats as if they are the stalwarts of it. Our country is screwed.

Obama's pledge to end earmarks was laughable when he made it, except maybe to the lib farkers on here who will try to defend this abomination of a bill. Republicans throwing in earmark after earmark while counseling thriftiness is so hypocritical it makes me want to throw up.

All true.

Even more are the farkers saying "pork is OK". Pork is never OK, because by definition it is money sent home to help keep a poitician in power.

Earmarks are just a slice of pork. Money sent to states via state governments and multi-state federal programs can STILL be pork, if the politician is using it to pay off special interests to help him get elected. We need term limits for members of Congress and this nonsense will hopefully end.

Eisenhower had some good quotes for our current situation:

Politics ought to be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Some people wanted champagne and caviar when they should have had beer and hot dogs.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

jyoders19: And ignore that Obama said he'd ban them and hasn't.


He never said this.

Quit with the revisionism.

Weaver95: And this is why the Republicans have lost control of congress and the white house.

But hey, they sure showed those gay marriage people the whois and whatfors, eh?

I like you about six billion times more than I used to. You've really come around over the years. And I don't mean that in a "now-you're-a-liberal-therefore-smart-and-awesome" kind of way, but (and I don't know if you were just trying to push buttons or what), you were a lot different several years ago when we used to get into it.

I owe you a beer, your posts have become some of my favorites lately.

I don't give a rat's arse if the earmarks are coming from martians. This spending bill sucks. Period.

adamgreeney: The_Six_Fingered_Man: HAHAHA! I knew it. Just a few days ago, no one could find in the bill the bit about astronomy, and they all took that to mean that McCain was talking out his ass. And lo and behold, there it is, right in the list of earmarks to Hawai'i. Classic.

Stimulus bill =! budget.

You folks keep intentionally mixing the two up. I expect better than that from you at least.

I'm not mixing anything up. Here's the thread: http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4247610#new

And here's the accompanying article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/02/AR2009030202465. html

McCain and I are both talking about the Omnibus Spending Bill, where there is a $2M earmark for promoting astronomy in Hawai'i.

JoJoTheIdiotMonkeyBoy: "Earmarks" are the new "Values." Expect to hear more about them in the coming typhoon of bullshiat (the next election cycle)

I think we're already in the "next" cycle.

Animatronik:
Even more are the farkers saying "pork is OK". Pork is never OK, because by definition it is money sent home to help keep a poitician in power.

Earmarks are just a slice of pork. Money sent to states via state governments and multi-state federal programs can STILL be pork, if the politician is using it to pay off special interests to help him get elected. We need term limits for members of Congress and this nonsense will hopefully end.

OKay, genius, yes no one wants their politician paying off special interests just to remain elected. But politicians do need the authority and ability to fund projects.

That's why we need to make things more transparent. And that's why we need places like Faux News to actually do reporting, instead of just random crap. And yes, that goes for CNN and MSNBC as well.

At least Republicans have a plan to fix the economy now. Granted, it's a plan based on the insane ranting of a fevered Hooverite, but it's still more of a plan than they've had up to this point.

I don't recall Republicans PROMISING not to take any earmarks though, so I don't see where the hypocrisy is.

I don't think Obama pledged to end earmarking. For one thing that would end almost all financial support for Israel, which is earmarked, and he explicitly pledged to support Israel.

Only an anti-Semite would oppose earmarks.

I'll attempt to play devil's advocate here and say that in a group of five people, a 3-2 split is as even as it can get. This just means that 2 of the top 5 earmarkers are in fact Democrats.