One member of the Republican National Committee even has called for Steele to resign. "I don't want to hear anymore language trying to be cool about the bling in the stimulus package or appealing to D.L. Hughley and blacks," wrote Dr. Ada Fisher, North Carolina's national committeewoman.

Yeah, I think that's your problem right there. Couple that with the GOPper who last year said the part needs to "do a better job attracting people of color", and it's just the icing on the cake of how out of touch the Republican party is with modern times.

floor9: One member of the Republican National Committee even has called for Steele to resign. "I don't want to hear anymore language trying to be cool about the bling in the stimulus package or appealing to D.L. Hughley and blacks," wrote Dr. Ada Fisher, North Carolina's national committeewoman.

Yeah, I think that's your problem right there. Couple that with the GOPper who last year said the part needs to "do a better job attracting people of color", and it's just the icing on the cake of how out of touch the Republican party is with modern times.

Yep. The Republicans have to ditch the fundies and try to find some way of getting the fiscal conservatives to trust them again. I don't see HOW they're going to do it, but if they don't then they're basically screwed.

Weaver95: Yep. The Republicans have to ditch the fundies and try to find some way of getting the fiscal conservatives to trust them again. I don't see HOW they're going to do it, but if they don't then they're basically screwed.

Yes, and they won't. They're joined at the hip. The Republicans have spent so much time and energy whipping them into a frenzy over the past decade or two that they've now got a monster in their midst. Cut all the fundies loose now, and they'll create a disenfranchised party that will suck down 20% - 50% of the Republicans' voting power.

The Democrats are doing a spectacular job playing this, what with trolling the GOP into either ignoring Rush (and further tearing up the party) or disowning him (and further tearing up the party).

Now it's time for the Dems to sit back and let nature take its course, of course as long as they maintain the message on the economy.

When is Steele going to get branded with the dreaded "D" of Traitors to the Cause on his on-screen caption?

No way. The only way to solve this problem is to blame the "libs" and continue lashing out at everyone nearby like a wounded animal. Being reasonable, intelligent, helpful, or even actually conservative are not options that should even be considered.

"I don't want to hear anymore language trying to be cool about the bling in the stimulus package or appealing to D.L. Hughley and blacks in a way that isn't going to win us any votes and make us frankly appear to many blacks as quite foolish," wrote Fisher, who is one of three black national GOP committee members.

Are you f*cking serious!? An institution actually gave you a doctorate?

thamike: Are you f*cking serious!? An institution actually gave you a doctorate?

Cross burning aint like dusting crops, boy.

floor9: One member of the Republican National Committee even has called for Steele to resign. "I don't want to hear anymore language trying to be cool about the bling in the stimulus package or appealing to D.L. Hughley and blacks," wrote Dr. Ada Fisher, North Carolina's national committeewoman.

Yeah, I think that's your problem right there. Couple that with the GOPper who last year said the part needs to "do a better job attracting people of color", and it's just the icing on the cake of how out of touch the Republican party is with modern times.

If you have ideas, the people will come to you. If all you have is branding, well, you get Micheal Steele and Rush Limbaugh.

"Word up dawg! It's the new hip-GOP Republican Party BEEYOTCH!"

As a result, many prominent people in the party are laying low, waiting to see whether a unifying voice will emerge to lead the GOP forward.

otherwise known as cowards and sycophants

Some say the spat over Limbaugh's speech last weekend at a conservative conference didn't help. Steele called Limbaugh a mere "entertainer" who is sometimes "incendiary" and "ugly," comments for which Steele later apologized.

steele, yet another coward
he spoke his peace, he said what many people feel is true and the apologies for taking a stand

so my question for the GOP, how do you fix something, change something, improve something, expand something, without discusing reality?
what worked? what is broken? what is helping? what is hurting?

rush - riles up the dedicated dittoheads, sry, true patriots - this works fine

but, that wasnt enough to get elected

does the GOP know why the lost in november?
do they know why the middle voted against them?
the only way to get the middle to vote for the GOP will be for them GOP to address the middles ISSUES

but you wont learn what those issues are by denying that you have problems and pretending that you know everything
ooo and by hating america and being a traitor to the prez during a time of war

we should lock rush up for sedition already!!
/I kid about that last part, except the right wanted to do that to the left
/love it or leave it - you dont love your prez - GET OUT ALREADY

Weaver95: Yep. The Republicans have to ditch the fundies and try to find some way of getting the fiscal conservatives to trust them again. I don't see HOW they're going to do it, but if they don't then they're basically screwed.

yah
you have the fundy party, the conservative party (which for 8 years was ANYTHING but conservative) and the everyone else party

how many true independent conservative voted against the GOP last election?

the last fiscally-conservative president was clinton
figure that one out?

the MBA prez, spent money like the people buying houses they couldnt afford - he didnt care, someone else would pay for it later

/sigh

floor9: Weaver95: Yep. The Republicans have to ditch the fundies and try to find some way of getting the fiscal conservatives to trust them again. I don't see HOW they're going to do it, but if they don't then they're basically screwed.

Yes, and they won't. They're joined at the hip. The Republicans have spent so much time and energy whipping them into a frenzy over the past decade or two that they've now got a monster in their midst. Cut all the fundies loose now, and they'll create a disenfranchised party that will suck down 20% - 50% of the Republicans' voting power.

It would split the base, but it would also attract back a lot of folks.

Obama won not scaring the bejeebus out of the Religious Right, and the Rah Rah Boys, but by drawing in Quiet Republicans. Call them "Moderates" or "Progressives" or just plain old fashioned Conservatives without a Neo at the front. He did that by appealing to their fiscal sense, and by pointing out the crisis looming was firmly in the hands of the architects of the current Administration--not just financial, but across a wide swath of domestic and foreign issues.

RINOs have had a lock on the GOP's face for a while--but then again, I call Neocons, the Religious Right, and the Corporatists RINOs, because their policies and goals are hardly Conservative in the least. Radicals have led the party down some strange roads, and jettisoning them would be a good start.

The Republicans NEED to earn their place at the table. They have squandered it with a lot of radical and short sighted policies that have only an election cycle's span of sense, and short term profit in mind. THAT right there should be the nail in the coffin for good Conservatives. Good Conservative thought is about long term health of the nation, about preserving our Constitution, and looking far down the road to consequences of intervention--both for good or ill.

The faux-populist platforms have injured the GOP badly. By sacrificing our ethical center, and adopting wildly conflicting policies that bear very little sense in a cohesive fashion, we have been opened up to charges of hypocrisy that stick. And to be honest, they should.

The best thing for the party is that we hold ourselves up to the light; that Republicans are harder on ourselves than our rivals, and hold ourselves up to a higher standard as well. Not with populist tirades and grandstanding.

Steele is, I fear, really just another short sighted attempt by the GOP leadership address an issue with a special effect. Not a bad man, but an attempt to try to address issues by poll sifting, as opposed to real thought. The leadership is still looking at governance and policy in terms of the election cycle, as opposed to real effect. And what we are seeing here--from the House Republicans, to many Governors, and even Senate Republicans--is that they are NOT thinking about the nation, but how things will shake out in the polls, and that alone.

If the GOP is going to take back anything in the next election, it is going to have to be with real leadership, and real vision. Vision isn't looking at the guy who is telling you how much people hate the speech you just made, and can you tone it down. It is looking past that cat, and to the real problems.

Republicans need to stop being cats looking at the finger, and instead get to the food.

namatad: does the GOP know why the lost in november?
do they know why the middle voted against them?

on cause of the libs.

Liberal trickery.

libs...libs...libs...must destroy libs...libs.

Mordant: No way. The only way to solve this problem is to blame the "libs" and continue lashing out at everyone nearby like a wounded animal. Being reasonable, intelligent, helpful, or even actually conservative are not options that should even be considered.

Well stated. That's exactly what they'll do.

thamike: "I don't want to hear anymore language trying to be cool about the bling in the stimulus package or appealing to D.L. Hughley and blacks in a way that isn't going to win us any votes and make us frankly appear to many blacks as quite foolish," wrote Fisher, who is one of three black national GOP committee members.

Are you f*cking serious!? An institution actually gave you a doctorate?

UNC-Greensboro, U of Wisconsin, and John's Hopkins. It's easy to get a degree when you have a 16 INT and a 6 WIS.

They should have hired Lexington Steele instead of Michael Steele.

rickythepenguin: They should have hired Lexington Steele instead of Michael Steele.

That would quietly perk up some ears (and possibly other things) in various airport restrooms across this great nation.

/ gay is OK
// hypocrisy is not

Never underestimate the power of the democrats to screw up a good thing.

eddyatwork: Well stated. That's exactly what they'll they are do doing.

ftfy

Spanky_McFarksalot: Never underestimate the power of the democrats to screw up a good thing.

Yeah, I had a leak in my roof last year and rather than patching it I just really hoped that something bad would happen to my neighbor's house. Turns out he had an electrical fire in the kitchen and now my problems are all solved.

Spanky_McFarksalot: Never underestimate the power of the democrats to screw up a good thing.

strange, but that is the GOPS only hope at this point in time.
for the DEMS to screw up even WORSE than the last 8 years of GOP

that being said, does anyone see the GOP 2012 ticket?
palin/rush/jindal/romney

I dont see any of these beating Obama in 2012

The Dixiecrats didn't destroy the Democratic party, and a split off of Fundamentalist Dixiecans and, um, Neo-Condixieservatives would only strengthen the party in the future.

That's because many in the GOP are trying not to be the party pf socialism-lite while the DNC has no such struggle, they're now full blown socialists well on their way to openly advocating for communism.

i keep wondering when the constitutional party will get it's act together.

Triaxis: That's because many in the GOP are trying not to be the party pf socialism-lite while the DNC has no such struggle, they're now full blown socialists well on their way to openly advocating for communism.

Triaxis, loyal Fox News viewer.

TFA: find a way to make the party more relevant.

I think this is their problem, right there. Socially, the republicans are still fighting for ideals that the last few generations think are outdated, outmoded, and wrong. Until they can realize this, they are going to continue to bleed members as the oldest die and the youngest look elsewhere for political leadership.

namatad: Spanky_McFarksalot: Never underestimate the power of the democrats to screw up a good thing.

strange, but that is the GOPS only hope at this point in time.
for the DEMS to screw up even WORSE than the last 8 years of GOP

that being said, does anyone see the GOP 2012 ticket?
palin/rush/jindal/romney

I dont see any of these beating Obama in 2012

Agree. I honestly couldn't see anyone that can win 2012 for the Republican, right now. The good choice that can win national election in my mind wouldn't survive the primary.

Klingon Penis: Triaxis: That's because many in the GOP are trying not to be the party pf socialism-lite while the DNC has no such struggle, they're now full blown socialists well on their way to openly advocating for communism.

Triaxis, loyal Fox News viewer.

He has no idea that he is the main symptom of the problem. I guess that helps him get through the day as a tragic victim of circumstance and persecution.

WOW!! Fox Noise is actually seeing some sort of reality!!! Snark!! That is AMAZING!!!

I didn't know Fox Noise even did news, I was under the impression that Fox was there to give comfort to Creationist that are still convinced PRESIDENT Obama is a Muslim terrorist and brother to Osama Bin Ladin, Good show Fox Noise!, Good show!

The republicans need to get their shiat together and stop trying to be democrat lite. They need to dance with who brought them, or remember what ideals gave them strength. The more they have drifted from them the more the party has weakened. The timing almost couldn't be better for them to re surge. Another year or so and people will be clamoring to hear about a smaller less intrusive government taking less of the money they have earned.

Triaxis: That's because many in the GOP are trying not to be the party pf socialism-lite while the DNC has no such struggle, they're now full blown socialists well on their way to openly advocating for communism.

You're a silly person.

JoJoTheIdiotMonkeyBoy: Cross burning aint like dusting crops, boy.

What?


Triaxis: That's because many in the GOP are trying not to be the party pf socialism-lite while the DNC has no such struggle, they're now full blown socialists well on their way to openly advocating for communism.

What!?

The republicans need to get their shiat together and stop trying to be democrat lite. They need to dance with who brought them, or remember what ideals gave them strength. The more they have drifted from them the more the party has weakened. The timing almost couldn't be better for them to re surge. Another year or so and people will be clamoring to hear about a smaller less intrusive government taking less of the money they have earned.

The GOP needs to continue to do what it does best, fight everyone along with each other, and continue to advocate for violence with strong white supremacy overtones. Keep on fighting!!

The problem with Republicans is that they are so intellectually lacking, so primitive in their nature, they aren't even capable of forming good thoughts or ideas that make sense or solve any problems.

When you're party platform is "be primitive and stupid", there's nowhere to go but down.

johnnyrocket: When you're party platform is "be primitive and stupid", there's nowhere to go but down.

There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Republican way.

Isn't the Republican way a lot like the wrong way ?

Yes, but faster !

The problem with Republicans is that they are so intellectually lacking, so primitive in their nature, they aren't even capable of forming good thoughts or ideas that make sense or solve any problems.

When you're party platform is "be primitive and stupid", there's nowhere to go but down.
AGREED!
If I was any good at this I would have a pic of Mayor Quimby.

I can see the Republicans winning big in 2012.

Obama will be destoryed by the likes of Cuomo, Corzine, and Clinton in the primaries too.

I still see the possibility of an American exile returning to the United States and uniting the country in 2012.

Tyee: The republicans need to get their shiat together and stop trying to be democrat lite. They need to dance with who brought them, or remember what ideals gave them strength.

Election-stealing and fear-mongering? Yay, Republicanism!

It should be made clear to all the Foxtards in this thread that what the Obama administration is attempting to do is put out fires created by 8+ years of regulators purposefully asleep at the wheel.

Any mouth-breather who calls it communism doesn't understand the meaning of the word or the current situation.

Michael Steele is New Coke.

It's designed to fail, so they can bring back the "Original" brand as "Classic GOP" in a couple of months, after everyone in their herd has forgotten what a clusterfark the party's "leadership" was thought one of the toughest times the US has faced in decades.

I don't think you can preach conservatism, particularly fiscal conservatism, and have a decent political career. Sooner or later the spendthirft ideology gives way to pork, influence, money, or special interests. When that happens, and when it happens publicly, a conservative has no place to hide.

If they say, "that's government, I'm only doing what so-and-so does" then they are not the free-thinkers they pretend to be on C-SPAN. If they don't feed at the congressional trough then they are marginalized for not "playing ball" (ie., Ron Paul) or their constituents watch as other states and congressional districts get cut in on the tax dollars.

You can't have it both ways and since the GOP went to shiat - that is, they grabbed every bit of money they could at every chance - they come accross looking like hypocrites.

Pure speculation and opinion though.

Klingon Penis: doesn't understand the current situation.

Funk Brothers: I still see the possibility of an American exile returning to the United States and uniting the country in 2012

Roman Polanski???

bwesb: If they don't feed at the congressional trough then they are marginalized for not "playing ball" (ie., Ron Paul)

Please. The only people who are more clueless than Ron Paul are the people who support him and vote for him.

What's that, Ron? You're going to vote "no" on everything that crosses your desk? Congratulations on completely marginalizing yourself and the people you claim to represent.

As less and less people support their views, it's becoming crystal clear obvious that the only way for the Republicans to survive is to stop being Republicans.

Create a new party and tell Rush to go fark himself - not only would they get to jettison the crap, they could actively criticize it without looking stupid.

The GOP is mostly tumor at this point.

bwesb: I don't think you can preach conservatism, particularly fiscal conservatism, and have a decent political career. Sooner or later the spendthirft ideology gives way to pork, influence, money, or special interests. When that happens, and when it happens publicly, a conservative has no place to hide.

They hide it in anger.

OMG -- Look! A welfare queen in a Cadillac!
OMG -- Look over there! A black guy just got YOUR job through affirmative action!
OMG -- Look! The other side is out to get you! They want to steal your trailer rent to buy hookers!
OMG -- Look! The other side hates you because you pretend to be a Christian!
OMG -- Look! They're killing babies!
OMG -- Look! It's the Mexicans destroying the country!

It's worked for 30 years. It's their formula.

I think infighting is the BEST thing for them and the country.

There are plenty of reasonable people who lean right who are tired of being represented by religious nutjobs and armchair chickenhawks on the national stage.

Let this be the battle that solidifies the kooks' hold on the party, forcing the more reasonable members out to start a 3rd party, or ousts the freaks.