Modern Republicans were established to allow unintelligent men easier access to the mainstream.

Rush Limbaugh is a egotistical hypocritical sack of shiat. Penis.

Read to your child.

FREE OXYCONTIN and then an arrow pointing to the middle of the highway.

SHUT UP!

"Saying 'DITTO' means you are unable to think for yourself"

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... and sometimes it isn't.

(actual Rush quote, no votey)

"[Democrats] don't have reasons for people to vote for them. They're just trying to gin up anger and resentment for their opposition. And it's just not working anymore."


Boggles the mind, don't it?

/"Relaxed" language intentional, for all you grammar Nazis out there.

Obdicut: Read to your child.

You win.

Rush loves small, tight-skinned Dominican... cigars.

I WANT HIM TO FAIL!

/No vote, as we all know....HE REALLY SAID IT!

How about they just ignore the SOB & get back to work on fixing the country?

If you lived here, you would be stoned right now.

biatch, please.

"thanks for giving us something to concentrate on other than real issues! love and kisses, h. reid"

I note that the Democrats have been about ten times more eager to paint Limbaugh as the spokesman for the GOP than any actual prominent Republicans (aside from Limbaugh himself), who seem more to publicly suck up to him in halfhearted dread than actual admiration. The Republicans did the same thing with Michael Moore, but Moore didn't have the drone of mindless slaves that can bombard an already fractured and confused partisan officialdom with a misleading representation of public opinion. Actual opinion polls show Limbaugh's popularity in sub-Bush territory, but that's not much consolation when the RNC's offices are getting flooded with calls from angry middle-aged white guys.

I'm not in any way, shape, or form a Republican or a conservative by the way.

It's funny how many comments I've read from decent conservatives (I agree to disagree with several of them in intelligent discourse, and do agree on a few issues) lamenting that Steele had backbone for less than a goddamn fortnight.

Personally, I'd propose a billboard outside Steele's house, with something along the lines of "Get some balls, dude - Limbaugh listeners are NOT your target demographic right now".

But then again, I'm one of those crazy people who think that we at least need two decent political parties speaking like adults to get anything accomplished in this country. Devil's advocates can be useful. Hysterical dittoheads, not so much. It would be better for all involved if both sides just ignored the bastard.

That said, many people sold their soul for far less than Limbaugh gets for his contract. I am duly impressed by that.

/hell is full of 10 year olds who just wanted to get better without practicing, y'know?

Churchill2004: I note that the Democrats have been about ten times more eager to paint Limbaugh as the spokesman for the GOP than any actual prominent Republicans (aside from Limbaugh himself), who seem more to publicly suck up to him in halfhearted dread than actual admiration. The Republicans did the same thing with Michael Moore, but Moore didn't have the drone of mindless slaves that can bombard an already fractured and confused partisan officialdom with a misleading representation of public opinion. Actual opinion polls show Limbaugh's popularity in sub-Bush territory, but that's not much consolation when the RNC's offices are getting flooded with calls from angry middle-aged white guys.

Churchill2004: I'm not in any way, shape, or form a Republican or a conservative by the way.

That was a very eloquent summation of the whole situation. I'd use Air America as an example rather than Rove - how's that doing these days anyhow? I'm fairly damned liberal but I can't even stand the idea. At least NPR gives some airtime to differing opinions, and late at night, mine broadcasts BBC so I get world opinion / news focus as well. I don't need someone to reinforce what I already believe in, damnit - I need the news in a factual way, and if anything, someone to challenge what I believe in because if I can't believe in my own defense I need to re-evaluate my preconceptions.

Anyhow, it's that you thought you needed a disclaimer that disheartens me, although I know it was a pre-emptive strike.

Whoa, meant "Moore" instead of "Rove". That's what I get for trying to think and type on two threads at once.

"Post comment immediately without previewing first" = a really, really lame version of Russian Roulette sometimes, cause I know I'll screw something up about 1 in every 6 times anyhow.

Ima go with this...

Churchill2004: I note that the Democrats have been about ten times more eager to paint Limbaugh as the spokesman for the GOP than any actual prominent Republicans

Except he keynoted the National Conference, to constant cheers and chants of "Rush! Rush! Rush!"

And the actual head of the RNC defers to him at every opportunity.

The Democrats are playing politics with it, and playfully showing up how directionless the 'real' GOP is, but that doesn't change the fact that Rush is indeed - ideologically, vocally, symbolically, and intellectually - leading the Republicans right now.

TheCharmerUnderMe: "Saying 'DITTO' means you are unable to think for yourself"

ditto to that!

/Viva Viagra!

Churchill2004: than any actual prominent Republicans (aside from Limbaugh himself),

Just republican congressmen and the head of the RNC.

Calmamity: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... and sometimes it isn't which means that most of the time, it's a big brown dick.

FTFY
/with mad props to Carlin
//RIP

Meatzilla: Hope and Change: The Operation Rushbo Distraction

Obama Fiddles With Rush While Wall Street Burns

Rahm Emanuel/James Carville-Created; President Obama-Approved

Rushbo distraction? Dems are laughing at this stuff while they work. It's the pants-wetting, uni-tasking 27%ers who are distracted by this scurrilous attack on their beloved muse.

To the people that are so critical of Obama going after Rush: you people don't seem to see how badly this fractures an opposition that has decided to oppose everything just for the sake of opposing. They're forced to choose between their blowhard beloved far right winger that represents the base of the Republican party these days (or so it seems) and taking a moderate stance and, you know, trying to help fix the country they broke. They're afraid to say no to Rush, so they've driving all the moderates away from the opposition and by painting him as someone who doesn't want to help improve things, just throw stones from his glass house. What the Democratic leadership is doing, I think, is convincing those very few remaining Republican senators and representatives that they want nothing to do with their own party that keeps giving sloppy blowjobs to this drug-riddled attention whore and help fix things, plus get popular support firmly on their side. This is a much better idea than it appears at first.

Or I'm seeing too much, but the way this has played out from Obama's very Weenerss towards Rush makes me think otherwise.

GAT_00: To the people that are so critical of Obama going after Rush: you people don't seem to see how badly this fractures an opposition that has decided to oppose everything just for the sake of opposing. They're forced to choose between their blowhard beloved far right winger that represents the base of the Republican party these days (or so it seems) and taking a moderate stance and, you know, trying to help fix the country they broke. They're afraid to say no to Rush, so they've driving all the moderates away from the opposition and by painting him as someone who doesn't want to help improve things, just throw stones from his glass house. What the Democratic leadership is doing, I think, is convincing those very few remaining Republican senators and representatives that they want nothing to do with their own party that keeps giving sloppy blowjobs to this drug-riddled attention whore and help fix things, plus get popular support firmly on their side. This is a much better idea than it appears at first.

Or I'm seeing too much, but the way this has played out from Obama's very Weenerss towards Rush makes me think otherwise.

Um, no offense, but it's fairly obvious. Carville's name has been thrown around quite a bit in giving credit for that strategy.

But the Democrat stratergy didn't have anything to do with Steele crawling back to the God that is Limbaugh. That was just an added bonus.

and I'd put up Obama's logo and have it say "The Choice of a New Generation"

log_jammin: and I'd put up Obama's logo and have it say "The Choice of a New Generation"

Funny, for some reason whenever I think about Obama, I suddenly crave a Pepsi. Can't figure it out. It just seems right for someone in my 20-30 year old demographic.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

And sometimes it's a big black dick.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Um, no offense, but it's fairly obvious. Carville's name has been thrown around quite a bit in giving credit for that strategy.

But the Democrat stratergy didn't have anything to do with Steele crawling back to the God that is Limbaugh. That was just an added bonus.

I hadn't actually seen anyone take credit for this yet. This is Carville's doing? And judging by a lot of comments here on Fark, no this this isn't obvious, which kinda makes it funnier. I still can't believe that Steele has such little power that he couldn't even stand against Rush for more than 4 hours.

And I just realized I filterpwned myself too. Dammit, haven't done that in a while.

GAT_00: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Um, no offense, but it's fairly obvious. Carville's name has been thrown around quite a bit in giving credit for that strategy.

But the Democrat stratergy didn't have anything to do with Steele crawling back to the God that is Limbaugh. That was just an added bonus.

I hadn't actually seen anyone take credit for this yet. This is Carville's doing? And judging by a lot of comments here on Fark, no this this isn't obvious, which kinda makes it funnier. I still can't believe that Steele has such little power that he couldn't even stand against Rush for more than 4 hours.

No one's *taken* credit, credit has been attributed to Carville though.

It doesn't really matter, though, since as the Steele thing showed it would've happened anyhow. Gingrich, I believe, lost a bit in the struggle-for-any-real-leadership when Jindal fell hard.

There should've been a link for the Gingrich/Jindal aside... and here it is

GAT_00:
I hadn't actually seen anyone take credit for this yet. This is Carville's doing? And judging by a lot of comments here on Fark, no this this isn't obvious, which kinda makes it funnier. I still can't believe that Steele has such little power that he couldn't even stand against Rush for more than 4 hours.

Because Republicans have relied on their Media Machine to back them for 10+ years now, coupled with the remnants of the Contract that was built by Rush and others probably supporting him behind the scenes.

You aren't just challenging Rush. You're challenging all of them. Hannity orally felated him tonight, and I'm a little surprised there wasn't an actual live action demonstration. And that's why Steele retracted. Not just because he doesn't have the balls, but because he doesn't know what to do. He's playing Chess with Obama/Democratic party (which is not always the same entity) but he has no next move- so he'll just keep playing the same strategy until he can figure something out.

The clear solution for the Republican party is to make a partial break from the hyper-partisan, pragmatically disabled portion of their base. Steele is not stupid, he understands that for either Democrats or Republicans to win you must attract a large number of moderates. So having Rush, Hannity, and O'Reilly run things is not a long term solution. But they are also afraid of alienating them. Because what happens if they stop voting?

Personally, the best solution is to screw them. Not just screw them, f*ck with them. Let them do a Dixiecrat revolution for 2010, get stomped, and come back to a more moderate Republican party. All the Republicans have to do is out liberal the liberals on two of the oncoming issues. Health care is a great option- it's pretty much a guarantee that it will be addressed in the next 10 years; so, address it with a 90s style conservative reformation that solves the welfare abuse before it happens. Look to the conservative universal health care countries for a mixed solution that guarantees coverage, keeps Americans with their current providers, but drastically reduces government costs, obligations, and interventions. It really wouldn't be hard- look for insurance mandates (which are already commonplace) and universal convertable standards. Create a set of common insurance contracts that providers must cover.

Cut unions of from card check with conservative Germany's codetermination. (which also occurs elsewhere).

StreetlightInTheGhetto:
It doesn't really matter, though, since as the Steele thing showed it would've happened anyhow. Gingrich, I believe, lost a bit in the struggle-for-any-real-leadership when Jindal fell hard.

Gingrich is an idiot. And so is Jindal. Both of them are ignoring America. Ironically, and also sort of tragically, the next Republican president will be a Sarah Palin. But not Sarah Palin.

Wait, Wait, Wait, What? (you ask). Sarah Palin seemed to do a fair job listening to her constituency in Alaska before her Prez run. That's what the Republicans need- someone who will listen. That's part of what Obama does best- he listens. This is why he attracts people who really have nothing in common with him, but think he will enact their policies. You have to listen to what your population wants.

Gingrich, Jindal, and others don't seem to realize that America is not the South. We don't share your ideological perspective on the nature of things. The more you treat us so, the more we realize how clueless you are. 2012 is up in the air as to who will contend, because party leadership is still duking it out. But look to 2016 for a governor who was smart, played ball, and sought moderate conservative solutions that were still sensibly liberal enough to work.

GAT_00: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Um, no offense, but it's fairly obvious. Carville's name has been thrown around quite a bit in giving credit for that strategy.

I hadn't actually seen anyone take credit for this yet. This is Carville's doing? And judging by a lot of comments here on Fark, no this this isn't obvious, which kinda makes it funnier. I still can't believe that Steele has such little power that he couldn't even stand against Rush for more than 4 hours.

Oh, it's whole a cavalcade of Clinton-era cronies and Obama henchmen who started planning Operation Rushbo before Barack Hussein Obama was even elected. And Steele was just a gift from heaven. Or perhaps he wasn't really a gift at all. Perhaps...

James Carville is the evil genius who is really behind it all though. (p0p)

Despite my being a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, I've never been a fan of Rush myself. He has always been just a bloated stogie puffing gas bag making money in a niche that he filled before someone else did when Republicans were riding high a decade ago, to me. Now he's a bloated stogie puffing gas bag tool for distraction from the real issues that affect us all right now.

And he's obviously accomplishing the task President B.H. Obama has approvingly tasked him with.

P.S. They also need someone who can communicate and convey the problems America faces with the public. But, that is a problem all politicians face constantly, so it's sort of a given.

sloppy shoes: StreetlightInTheGhetto:
It doesn't really matter, though, since as the Steele thing showed it would've happened anyhow. Gingrich, I believe, lost a bit in the struggle-for-any-real-leadership when Jindal fell hard.

Gingrich is an idiot. And so is Jindal. Both of them are ignoring America. Ironically, and also sort of tragically, the next Republican president will be a Sarah Palin. But not Sarah Palin.

Wait, Wait, Wait, What? (you ask). Sarah Palin seemed to do a fair job listening to her constituency in Alaska before her Prez run. That's what the Republicans need- someone who will listen. That's part of what Obama does best- he listens. This is why he attracts people who really have nothing in common with him, but think he will enact their policies. You have to listen to what your population wants.

Gingrich, Jindal, and others don't seem to realize that America is not the South. We don't share your ideological perspective on the nature of things. The more you treat us so, the more we realize how clueless you are. 2012 is up in the air as to who will contend, because party leadership is still duking it out. But look to 2016 for a governor who was smart, played ball, and sought moderate conservative solutions that were still sensibly liberal enough to work.

I really am rooting for Charlie Crist, because by and large I really respect how he runs, listening to constituency - whether they voted for you or not - being a part of that.

But if memory serves me correctly, the RNC actually ran someone against him in the primaries and thought he was too moderate for their tastes... maybe I'm inventing that in my head, a quick skim-reading of Wikipedia doesn't bring that up. Anyhow, there were plenty who threw a fit when he did a public event with Obama in any case.

That is the answer; the question is if the Republican higher-ups are smart enough to realize it. I thought they might, especially after Obama's 50 States strategy, but the recent anointing of Limbaugh makes me think twice.

By and large, I really do like Crist - severe differences on certain issues (gay rights, death penalty). However, that they chose Jindal to give the rebuttal speech is telling.

PS

If you can think of any other options other than Jindal/Crist for the Republicans to tap into, I'd be interested. I don't really follow governorships *that* closely.

sloppy shoes: P.S. They also need someone who can communicate and convey the problems America faces with the public. But, that is a problem all politicians face constantly, so it's sort of a given.

The problem with the Repubs is that their idea of problems is that we don't all agree with their view of how society should look and what's it's morals should be. That has always been a major disconnect with me and, I hope, much of my generation.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: If you can think of any other options other than Jindal/Crist for the Republicans to tap into, I'd be interested. I don't really follow governorships *that* closely.

For a libertarian type, you've got Mark Sanford, though after saying he might not take stimulus money, quickly backed down. For a populist, the clear winner is Huckabee, who I think is the best speaker of the party, but he's also said things like AIDS victims should be quarantined and that he doesn't believe in evolution, and so has a major tab ability to the religious wing. I wouldn't count Jeb Bush out either, though he can be stopped cold by a few people chanting monarchy. And apparantly Utah's governor has ambitions since he just recently said he's not completely opposed to civil unions.

GAT_00: For a libertarian type, you've got Mark Sanford, though after saying he might not take stimulus money, quickly backed down. For a populist, the clear winner is Huckabee, who I think is the best speaker of the party, but he's also said things like AIDS victims should be quarantined and that he doesn't believe in evolution, and so has a major tab ability to the religious wing. I wouldn't count Jeb Bush out either, though he can be stopped cold by a few people chanting monarchy. And apparantly Utah's governor has ambitions since he just recently said he's not completely opposed to civil unions.

Won't matter once they pass the 61st Amendment. Schwarzenegger for Presidentator!

/not remotely obscure.

sloppy shoes: Gingrich, Jindal, and others don't seem to realize that America is not the South. We don't share your ideological perspective on the nature of things. The more you treat us so, the more we realize how clueless you are. 2012 is up in the air as to who will contend, because party leadership is still duking it out. But look to 2016 for a governor who was smart, played ball, and sought moderate conservative solutions that were still sensibly liberal enough to work.

I find it laughable that you claim Gingrich doesn't "Care about America" as for the past several years he's been tirelessly working behind the scenes with both Democrats and Republicans to come up with various solutions; granted he's also been working on the Grass Roots of the Republican party so he's still a partisan but he most certianly is *not* an idiot.

As far as Steele goes, he should have apologized, not for claiming Rush wasn't the leader of the Republican Party, hell even Rush says he's not, but for claiming he was incindiary and mean. As Rush pointed out, Steele was hit up with a bad premise, as Rush never wanted the American Economy to fail, but rather Obama's agenda, believe that if Obama's Agenda Succeeds, the American Economy will fail. (In essence Rush was proclaiming his desire for America to Succeed with his "I Hope he fails" schtick.)

Then add to that the constant beratement of Bush by the left for the past few years and you have a case of Dem's not being able to take even half of the shait they have been putting out (Kind of like spoiled children) and yea, Steele was hit with a fasle premise and he tossed Rush under the bus because he felt a need to answer it; so an apology was due.

The problem is, that Rush at the moment *is* the only one voicing true Conservative Principles, so you might say he is the leader of the Conservative Movement or at least one of it's banner carriers, but one thing is for certian, the Republican Party has not been very conservative of late so to claim Rush as it's leader is a straight out falsehood.

And Rush is right, Steele should be in the background working on the Primary system and doing the job he was elected to do; not trying to build up Street Cred with Hughely in a feeble attempt to win over more black voters; win them over with Conservative Principles not Bling References.

But keep believing that this little ploy by the Clintonista's is working; so far they are swinging at air when it comes to going against Rush and I have very few doubts that he'll cause y'all to strike out again.

/I think Harry Reid is still smarting from his Limbaugh Arse Whoopin

CanisNoir: I find it laughable that you claim Gingrich doesn't "Care about America"

he didn't say "Gingrich doesn't "Care about America" .

CanisNoir: As far as Steele goes, he should have apologized, not for claiming Rush wasn't the leader of the Republican Party, hell even Rush says he's not, but for claiming he was incindiary and mean.

why is calling him "incendiary and mean" apology worthy? He's a bomb thrower isn't he? Actually you've said many times that rush is "Just an entertainer", so why would anyone need to apologize for calling "just an entertainer" incendiary and mean?

CanisNoir: you have a case of Dem's not being able to take even half of the shait they have been putting out

how so? I have yet to see a democratic temper tantrum in congress anywhere close to several from the republicans over the last couple of years.

CanisNoir: Rush at the moment *is* the only one voicing true Conservative Principles, so you might say he is the leader of the Conservative Movement or at least one of it's banner carriers, but one thing is for certian, the Republican Party has not been very conservative of late so to claim Rush as it's leader is a straight out falsehood.

more double think. He's the leader of "the Conservative Movement" and the republicans claim to be the party of the Conservative Movement, but you guys JUST now decided that the GOP hasn't been very conservative so he's NOT REALLY the leader of the GOP.

CanisNoir: so far they are swinging at air when it comes to going against Rush and I have very few doubts that he'll cause y'all to strike out again.

your denial of reality frightens me.

CanisNoir: /I think Harry Reid is still smarting from his Limbaugh Arse Whoopin

but he's just an entertainer!

The DNC ought to hold a contest to see who can fix America, but since that probably isn't going to happen, they're just trying to keep their sheep distracted by seeing if they can out douchebag Limbaugh.