That's the best he could come up with?

"It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

It's because Ann Coulter has a penis, you see. That's what the headline is saying; that Ann Coulter is also a man. Get it?

She's apologizing for Rush's farkup in regard to the Constitution and Declaration on a site called "Human Events."

The hypocrisy...it hurts.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bloviators which have connected them with wwwaarrhhbblll, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of sane people requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Oh, it's on.

Waiting for the first equivalence between the two. In 5...4...3...2...

DamnYankees: Waiting for the first equivalence between the two. In 5...4...3...2...

no equivalence needed. coulter went to college and apparently olbermann went to bovine university?

WaltzingMathilda: It's because Ann Coulter has a penis, you see. That's what the headline is saying; that Ann Coulter is also a man. Get it?

Actually it's because She/He's a dick...

1) correcting someone who should know better when they misquote and misattribute words from America's fomative documents is not pedantic. It makes sense. Too bad for Coulter that her fatty buddy Limbaugh is too stupid or too lazy to bother about 'facts', and too bad none of the hootin' and hollerin' masses at CPAC know any better.

2) Cornell University is both a private endowed university and the federal land-grant institution of New York State. Each of the fourteen colleges and schools listed below defines its own academic programs; admits its own students; provides a faculty, and advising and support for its students; and confers degrees on its own students, although all degrees are attributed to Cornell University. . What was Coulter's point? Other than trying desperately to find something with which to smear Olbermann?

I would venture to say that the students at Goodling's law school at Regent University are far more impressive than those at the Cornell agriculture school -- the land-grant, non-Ivy League school Keith attended.

I wouldn't. Regent is Pat Robertson's university, a 4th tier law school that the Bush administration inexplicably mined for dozens of appointed positions. Well, not explicably if one wants to appoint a bunch of conservative evangelicals, but if one actually cares about well learned, qualified people who might just put the law above ideology, that's a different story.

Are there any Boston University Alums here? Any from CGS? Do you guys think that counts?

/education has never equaled intelligence.

I know that skinny chick didn't diss Cornell. I KNOW she didn't.

FTA:
You may not realize it now, Keith, but you will look back on this day and say, "That was the best thing that ever happened to me!"

I bet he will. I bet he will.

The Cornell University College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is part of the Ivy League. In fact, it's the only agriculture school in the Ivy League. It's also home to, besides communication, it's also home to biochemistry, molecular biology, and other major hard science programs. It's not "Durrr, how to farm good" by any measure. It also offers a pretty full graduate program for most subjects, straight on through to Ph.d.

All that aside... it's pretty pathetic. I mean, seriously, this is just getting truly goddamn pathetic.

My money's on Coulter. She maybe skinny but she'll whip that latte-sipping liberal Olbermann anytime.

Will it be a cage match?

It just keeps getting better. Coulter will be destroyed for this and I can't think of anyone more deserving.

1) Keith Olbermann attacks Monica Goodling, Deputy Director of Public Affairs for the United States Department of Justice, the person who was given the power to appoint or dismiss all Department of Justice political appointees besides United States attorneys, for going to a poorly-accredited college.

2) Ann Coulter attacks Keith Olbermann, former sportscaster and current political pundit, for graduating from Cornell University's Agricultural college.

Hmmmm. There's something not right here. Can't figure it out though.

Just to fan the flames: Coulter actually went to Cornell, where she founded the Cornell Review (a right-wing campus paper), and graduated cum laude. She also has a law degree from the University of Michigan (top 10% of her class, law review editor, clerked for a federal appellate judge).

She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

For fark's sake, Bush went to one of the nation's top colleges and he's dumber than a sackful of doorknobs. Why the fark would anyone with an ounce of working brain matter use where someone went to college as an indication of intelligence?

Can't you GOP idiots escalate her move to obscurity? Or is she really the type of person you want to hold up and show the world?

SHE GETS US! SHE KNOWS WHAT THE GOP IS ALL ABOUT!


Yeah, good luck with that...

MasterThief: Just to fan the flames: Coulter actually went to Cornell, where she founded the Cornell Review (a right-wing campus paper), and graduated cum laude. She also has a law degree from the University of Michigan (top 10% of her class, law review editor, clerked for a federal appellate judge).

She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

right, but we can all agree that those that went to regent university law school can be mocked.

MasterThief: She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

I don't think anyone said she's dumb. She's just a disingenuous, hateful liar.

DamnYankees: MasterThief: She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

I don't think anyone said she's dumb. She's just a disingenuous, hateful liar.

This. I don't think she's stupid (save when she intentionally and rather skillfully feigns ignorance for any rhetorical reason). She's just an evil, duplicitous fascist hellwhore.

All I know is that I really don't want to be around when these two get around to whipping it out to measure.

/though, I'll give that one to Coulter, because let's face it, have you seen the size of her hands?

Bloody William: DamnYankees: MasterThief: She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

I don't think anyone said she's dumb. She's just a disingenuous, hateful liar.

This. I don't think she's stupid (save when she intentionally and rather skillfully feigns ignorance for any rhetorical reason). She's just an evil, duplicitous fascist hellwhore.

Evil? No, well payed. She has a role, and she plays it. Because that's what has worked for her. She fits in well, because she's a double edged sword. She can, with fair impunity, attack credentials of those that she's sicced upon, and backlash against her can be turned to political hay. Likewise, if folks are just slightly less incendiary, they automatically look more reasonable--even if they are spouting equal amounts of garbage.

Coulter is a PR special effect, and that's her job.

She is essentially fulfilling the role as a political tar baby. She trolls, and if she hooks anyone to sparring with her, she ties them up, instead of letting them make a point. She is a weapon of mass distraction. She fills up time on the airwaves that could be spent actually looking at policy, but instead, it's much more interesting to watch folks either tear into her, or hear her tear into them, and it's like watching cats look at the finger, instead of the food.

Coulter is a symptom of how broken the GOP is right now--that they'd rather invest time and money into building up this PR shell game that she really is, as opposed to putting out thoughtful analysis and smart policy.

She is not what is wrong with my party, but she is certainly a symptom.

Wait wait wait. She WENT to Cornell? And she still says this bullsh*t about the Ag school?

Oh for f*cks sake.

This guy was a Cornell ag. school graduate.

I wonder how many world leaders Regent counts among its alumni?

thomps: right, but we can all agree that those that went to regent university law school can be mocked.

Maybe not the students, but definitely the schools. Even the Appalachian School of Law grads laugh at Regent (and Liberty). How those schools got ABA accreditation, I have no idea.

Even so, government hiring will always be political to some extent despite all the rules and regulations, the problem with the DoJ hiring was not the political hiring but the half-assed tone-deaf cover-up Goodling and Gonzales tried, Olbermann is just one more preening yakking talking head who has no grounds to snicker about anyone else's college degrees, and everything Bloody William said about Coulter too.

MasterThief:
Maybe not the students, but definitely the schools. Even the Appalachian School of Law grads laugh at Regent (and Liberty). How those schools got ABA accreditation, I have no idea.

As I understand it, the ABA was really hesitant to grant accreditation.

And their students can be mocked for simply applying to the school. If you want to go there, there is something wrong with you.

Neeek: MasterThief:
Maybe not the students, but definitely the schools. Even the Appalachian School of Law grads laugh at Regent (and Liberty). How those schools got ABA accreditation, I have no idea.

As I understand it, the ABA was really hesitant to grant accreditation.

And their students can be mocked for simply applying to the school. If you want to go there, there is something wrong with you.

One time on a road trip across the country, my friend and I stopped in Lynchburg, VA to get some food. We were AMAZING at how hot the women were. Maybe the hottest single woman I've ever seen in my life was standing behind us in Starbucks, and she was a student at Liberty U.

So they do serve a purpose.

DamnYankees: So they do serve a purpose.

Yup. Performing those "wifely" duties evangelicals demand.

/washing, ironing, f*cking, etc.

FTA "Olbermann is no more capable of not correcting Rep. Charlie Rangel when he said "inferred," but meant "implied," than an obsessive compulsive could pass a sink without washing his hands."

Coulter is a goddamned joke.

There's a big difference between not calling someone on a common grammatical error, and pointing out that someone else SAID they were going to quote the Constitution, and then not only screwed up the quote, but instead cited the Declaration of Independence. Especially when they were there to receive a made-up, BS award called, "Defender of the Constitution." Besides, had the shoe been on the other foot, she would've been just like every other Fux Nooze moron and jumped all over it.

To sum up: "Defender of the Constitution" Rush Limbaugh saying he's going to quote the Constitution at the biggest conservative conference of the year, then MIS-quoting the Declaration of Independence = No big deal. But Joe Biden saying "website number" during a one-on one interview = OMG GAFFE LULZ FAIL for more than a dozen news cycles.

Those assholes are so intellectually dishonest it's literally physically painful to bear witness to.

MasterThief: Yup. Performing those "wifely" duties evangelicals demand.

/washing, ironing, f*cking, etc.

This woman was a goddess of that style of woman, if that's how you want a wife. I'd rather marry someone who has their own brain, of course, but for pure happy-fun-time, this chick would have sufficed.

thomps: right, but we can all agree that those that went to regent university law school can be mocked.

Yes, especially if a disproportionate number of their graduates go on to work in the Justice Department. I'm not sure which was more frightening to me--that the Justice Department essentially had an open door policy for graduates of Regent, or that the Justice Department wanted these people.

DamnYankees:
One time on a road trip across the country, my friend and I stopped in Lynchburg, VA to get some food. We were AMAZING at how hot the women were. Maybe the hottest single woman I've ever seen in my life was standing behind us in Starbucks, and she was a student at Liberty U.

Hmm. The hottest woman I've ever seen goes to my law school.

If you really want to see what kind of nutcases read Coulter's column, read the comments at the end.

Ann is so going to kick her ass.

MasterThief: Just to fan the flames: Coulter actually went to Cornell, where she founded the Cornell Review (a right-wing campus paper), and graduated cum laude. She also has a law degree from the University of Michigan (top 10% of her class, law review editor, clerked for a federal appellate judge).

She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

Meh. SO far you've managed to point out that she works hard, not that she's not dumb.

/But she probably is smarter than she makes herself out to be.

sloppy shoes: MasterThief: Just to fan the flames: Coulter actually went to Cornell, where she founded the Cornell Review (a right-wing campus paper), and graduated cum laude. She also has a law degree from the University of Michigan (top 10% of her class, law review editor, clerked for a federal appellate judge).

She may be a biatch, a bomb-thrower, a millstone around the neck of modern conservatism, and a biatch, but she is certainly not dumb.

Meh. SO far you've managed to point out that she works hard, not that she's not dumb.

/But she probably is smarter than she makes herself out to be.

She is far from dumb. It takes a fair amount of smarts to wade into the waters she's in, and not just stay afloat, but thrive. It takes intentional intellectual dishonesty, and a removal of any shred of integrity, but in order to keep all her balls in the air, she's got to be quick and smart, and sure. But, she you have to wonder if there's anything left afterwards...

hubiestubert: She is far from dumb. It takes a fair amount of smarts to wade into the waters she's in, and not just stay afloat, but thrive. It takes intentional intellectual dishonesty, and a removal of any shred of integrity, but in order to keep all her balls in the air, she's got to be quick and smart, and sure. But, she you have to wonder if there's anything left afterwards...

No, she's no dummy. But I'm starting to think her schtick just doesn't pack the same punch as it used to. Her tactics are stale and predictable.

hubiestubert:
She is far from dumb. It takes a fair amount of smarts to wade into the waters she's in, and not just stay afloat, but thrive. It takes intentional intellectual dishonesty, and a removal of any shred of integrity, but in order to keep all her balls in the air, she's got to be quick and smart, and sure. But, she you have to wonder if there's anything left afterwards...

I was just commenting on how going to Cornell and UofM doesn't make you automatically super smart, or even smart. Lots of dumb people with no curiosity and free thought get into 'good schools' simply because they work hard and play by the rules.

Bloody William: The Cornell University College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is part of the Ivy League. In fact, it's the only agriculture school in the Ivy League. It's also home to, besides communication, it's also home to biochemistry, molecular biology, and other major hard science programs. It's not "Durrr, how to farm good" by any measure. It also offers a pretty full graduate program for most subjects, straight on through to Ph.d.

All that aside... it's pretty pathetic. I mean, seriously, this is just getting truly goddamn pathetic.

I am taking away points for using Wikipedia as a source. The "Ag" school is a land grant college with entrance requirements that are hardly ivy league. My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U".

lrosu79:
I am taking away points for using Wikipedia as a source. The "Ag" school is a land grant college with entrance requirements that are hardly ivy league. My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U".

Going to an Ivy League school doesn't make you smart.

sloppy shoes: lrosu79:
I am taking away points for using Wikipedia as a source. The "Ag" school is a land grant college with entrance requirements that are hardly ivy league. My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U".

Going to an Ivy League school doesn't make you smart.

I never said anything about attending any school making people smarter than others. However, implying that this school is somehow an ivy league school is disingenuous. Especially from someone who uses the fact to bludgeon others that went to supposed "lesser schools".

lrosu79: . However, implying that this school is somehow an ivy league school is disingenuous.

What implying? It IS a member of the Ivy League.

lrosu79: Bloody William: The Cornell University College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is part of the Ivy League. In fact, it's the only agriculture school in the Ivy League. It's also home to, besides communication, it's also home to biochemistry, molecular biology, and other major hard science programs. It's not "Durrr, how to farm good" by any measure. It also offers a pretty full graduate program for most subjects, straight on through to Ph.d.

All that aside... it's pretty pathetic. I mean, seriously, this is just getting truly goddamn pathetic.

I am taking away points for using Wikipedia as a source. The "Ag" school is a land grant college with entrance requirements that are hardly ivy league. My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U".

I don't know (or care) about the inter-school rivalies/politics in Ithaca. At Syracuse we made the same jokes about SUNY-ESF students being all farmers. That's just the smarmy bullshiat you do on big campuses.

What's the big deal about a land grant school? You know what other schools are land grant schools? Rutgers, Penn State, Michigan... none of them exactly hillbilly schools (not Ivy League, but Cornell's the only Ivy League school that wasn't around at the beginning of the country anyway.

The "Ag" school is still part of Cornell University, and is home top the university's comm program. It's still an Ivy League school.

Besides, considering the massive amounts of nepotism and legacy flow in the Ivy League, I wasn't aware that those schools were all that higher in entrance standards than any other good college, academically.

lrosu79: My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U"...[changes post]...
I never said anything about attending any school making people smarter than others. However, implying that this school is somehow an ivy league school is disingenuous. Especially from someone who uses the fact to bludgeon others that went to supposed "lesser schools".


The last line of the original quoted post is what I was referring to. (I didn't read the Ann Coulter article, and I rarely watch Keith Olbermann, so if there is some connection to their disagreement I'm not aware of it). But ehh...I don't care anymore.

/All private schools should be abolished anyways.

Bloody William:
Besides, considering the massive amounts of nepotism and legacy flow in the Ivy League, I wasn't aware that those schools were all that higher in entrance standards than any other good college, academically.

Actually, the slots being taken up by all the nepotism and legacies is why the standards for the rest of the slots are higher. They have to balance the idiots they have to take with the people who keep her rep up.

Bloody William: Rutgers, Penn State, Michigan...

Penn State is. Not sure about Rutgers. But Michigan is not a land grant school.

lrosu79: sloppy shoes: lrosu79:
I am taking away points for using Wikipedia as a source. The "Ag" school is a land grant college with entrance requirements that are hardly ivy league. My friends at Cornell would laugh at those enrolled in the Ag school, saying that they went to "Moo U".

Going to an Ivy League school doesn't make you smart.

I never said anything about attending any school making people smarter than others. However, implying that this school is somehow an ivy league school is disingenuous. Especially from someone who uses the fact to bludgeon others that went to supposed "lesser schools".

Did Olbermann actually bring up his alma mater when he talked about Goodling and Regent?

Regent might be ABA-accredited, but it's still a farking skeevy factory of theocratic douchebags. The school itself says it wants students who are "dedicated to becoming Christian leaders who will change the world for Christ" and want "to receive a legal education integrated with Christian principles." Its law review journal explicitly says that law comes from a higher power. It's a fundie joke that was used to pack the Bush administration full of lawyers who they knew would be ideologically compliant, not legally competent.

hubiestubert: It takes intentional intellectual dishonesty, and a removal of any shred of integrity

Well she is a lawyer after all...

sloppy shoes: Bloody William: Rutgers, Penn State, Michigan...

Penn State is. Not sure about Rutgers. But Michigan is not a land grant school.

MIT is a land grant school.