socialism.

/voted for obama
//lesser of two evils

And yea, the Lord saith it is good, and his minions sang his praise. And he guideth the people from their own destruction through his angels with GE as his profit. He who doubteth shall be met with scorn that any who do not believe deserve with the mark of whaarrrggarrble. And so it is written, and so it shall be done.

so revenues from carbon output caps are now considered "bailouts" just because a company stands to profit from a cap and trade market? that's a pretty big stretch.

and by "big stretch" i mean it completely erases any meaning for the word "bailout." subby, you are a cockbag.

They better keep Tracy Jordan off Larry King

/show needs moar Hayek

Carotid: socialism.

taxes is not the same thing as socialism. we really need a better education system in this country...

and just because GE paid attention to which way the wind was blowing and positioned themselves in the market to benefit from it isn't a bad thing. that is the nature of the market, is it not?

thomps: so revenues from carbon output caps are now considered "bailouts" just because a company stands to profit from a cap and trade market? that's a pretty big stretch.

I bet you loved Blackwater and Haliburton. :)

burndtdan: Carotid: socialism.

taxes is not the same thing as socialism. we really need a better education system in this country...

and just because GE paid attention to which way the wind was blowing and positioned themselves in the market to benefit from it isn't a bad thing. that is the nature of the market, is it not?

*cough*blackwaterhaliburton*cough*

muck4doo: I bet you loved Blackwater and Haliburton. :)

i wouldn't categorize blackwater/haliburton contracts as bailouts either.

muck4doo: *cough*blackwaterhaliburton*cough*

*cough*non sequitor*cough*

thomps: muck4doo: I bet you loved Blackwater and Haliburton. :)

i wouldn't categorize blackwater/haliburton contracts as bailouts either.

Neither was blackwater/haliburton. They just happened to be positioned in the right place at the right time. Amiright? Amiright?

/Who cares what their connections are?

muck4doo: Neither was blackwater/haliburton. They just happened to be positioned in the right place at the right time. Amiright? Amiright?

/Who cares what their connections are?

dude, you are pulling at the most tenuous straw that you could possibly find. why?

thomps: muck4doo: Neither was blackwater/haliburton. They just happened to be positioned in the right place at the right time. Amiright? Amiright?

/Who cares what their connections are?

dude, you are pulling at the most tenuous straw that you could possibly find. why?

You seriously don't see any problem with this? It is not a straw, it's more cronyism. As long as it comes from your guy I guess it is okay then. Carry on, and the minions did say PROFIT! So it is written, so shall it be done. And the Lord looked at them, and sayeth this is awesome! What dopes!

muck4doo: You seriously don't see any problem with this? It is not a straw, it's more cronyism. As long as it comes from your guy I guess it is okay then. Carry on, and the minions did say PROFIT! So it is written, so shall it be done. And the Lord looked at them, and sayeth this is awesome! What dopes!

what cronyism? the budget hints that obama will implement a cap and trade system. some parties lobbied for it, some against. ge stands to make money with the system.
how is that anything like getting a no-bid government contract?

thomps: muck4doo: You seriously don't see any problem with this? It is not a straw, it's more cronyism. As long as it comes from your guy I guess it is okay then. Carry on, and the minions did say PROFIT! So it is written, so shall it be done. And the Lord looked at them, and sayeth this is awesome! What dopes!

what cronyism? the budget hints that obama will implement a cap and trade system. some parties lobbied for it, some against. ge stands to make money with the system.
how is that anything like getting a no-bid government contract?

There needs to be no bid. They already paid for it. If you are too blind to see what is going on you are a duped dope. Have fun making fun of all the "neo-cons" who got duped while you do the same.

/But it's Democrats!
//They're good guys!

muck4doo: There needs to be no bid. They already paid for it. If you are too blind to see what is going on you are a duped dope. Have fun making fun of all the "neo-cons" who got duped while you do the same.

/But it's Democrats!
//They're good guys!

you can find a winner that profits from any and every policy change. haliburton - ha.

thomps: so revenues from carbon output caps are now considered "bailouts" just because a company stands to profit from a cap and trade market? that's a pretty big stretch.

It's not capitalism or a market when Obama does it.

thomps: muck4doo: There needs to be no bid. They already paid for it. If you are too blind to see what is going on you are a duped dope. Have fun making fun of all the "neo-cons" who got duped while you do the same.

/But it's Democrats!
//They're good guys!

you can find a winner that profits from any and every policy change. haliburton - ha.

Ah, so they got lucky then? At least you're consistent.

/Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

People have been talking about a cap-and-trade system for years now. Suddenly it's a GE specific bailout?

That's a stretch.

burndtdan: we really need a better education system in this country

Absolutely! After all, everyone knows it is spelled "Sheinhardt."

muck4doo: thomps: muck4doo: I bet you loved Blackwater and Haliburton. :)

i wouldn't categorize blackwater/haliburton contracts as bailouts either.

Neither was blackwater/haliburton. They just happened to be positioned in the right place at the right time. Amiright? Amiright?

/Who cares what their connections are?

Your pamphlet, I would like to subscribe. The obvious fact is GE didn't have some sort of long an distinguished history of making generators, turbines, powerplants and their various componants and acoutraments which would have explain how they prepositioned themselves in a changing climate. It has to be graft and sweetheart deals. What other explaination is there?

So one company wants to make money off of cleaning the air of toxins. I don't see a problem with this.

There is a fixed amount of credits right? So assuming this is so, only the value can change, and not the amount of emissions itself. So if you want to pollute more than your fair share, then you'll have to pay the piper. I'm ok with this.

Now we know what he did in Washington.

That will teach those nasty industrialists. make them pay!!!

wait a minute, won't they just pass those costs on to us?

Its pretty amusing now Republicans are now calling capitalism "socialism".

It doesn't get much more Animal Farm then this.

Yay! increase the price on everything to stimulate the economy!!!

Visualize a republican party with 2 million listeners.

Tickle Mittens:

Your pamphlet, I would like to subscribe. The obvious fact is GE didn't have some sort of long an distinguished history of making generators, turbines, powerplants and their various componants and acoutraments which would have explain how they prepositioned themselves in a changing climate. It has to be graft and sweetheart deals. What other explaination is there?

Yea, it's not they ever specialized in electric devices and generation systems. You know, of the general variety.

/sarcasm: i haz it too

A carbon tax would be better than cap and trade.

Pro Zack: That will teach those nasty industrialists. make them pay!!!

wait a minute, won't they just pass those costs on to us?

Well not the companies that make energy that don't pollute.

They will have no extra costs to "pass on".

Oh noez... they have proof of the liberal media conspiracy.

Corvus: Pro Zack: That will teach those nasty industrialists. make them pay!!!

wait a minute, won't they just pass those costs on to us?

Well not the companies that make energy that don't pollute.

They will have no extra costs to "pass on".

Oh good. energy (which is needed even by non-polluting companies) should go way down, then. whew.

Bah, I still think we should switch to nuclear power. It may take a massive starting investment, but it'll pay for itself over time.

Kommunaut: Bah, I still think we should switch to nuclear power. It may take a massive starting investment, but it'll pay for itself over time.

very true. Maybe the good old environmentalists will get out of the way now.

muck4doo: the mark of whaarrrggarrble

Seeing as how your entire post was nothing but that, I savor the irony.

Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

So this is the new talking point about the whole cap n' trade stuff?

muck4doo: cronyism

Totally. Remember when Obama sat on the board of GE for all those years, only stepping down when he was elected?

Pro Zack: Kommunaut: Bah, I still think we should switch to nuclear power. It may take a massive starting investment, but it'll pay for itself over time.

very true. Maybe the good old environmentalists will get out of the way now.



I blame Springsteen.

/Bruce: an asshat from WAY back.

Snarfangel: A carbon tax would be better than cap and trade.

Like taxing cigarette companies to offset rising health care costs?

culebra: muck4doo: cronyism

Totally. Remember when Obama sat on the board of GE for all those years, only stepping down when he was elected?

His wife is still on the board too.

oh, wait...

Carotid: socialism

Tax and spend is fiscally more conservative than borrow and spend. At least there's a revenue stream involved.

whidbey: muck4doo: the mark of whaarrrggarrble

Seeing as how your entire post was nothing but that, I savor the irony.

Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

Skookum was 3 years ago, but that didn't stop anyone now, did it?

DarthBrooks: I blame Springsteen.

people in general are incredibly short-sighted. which is why we shouldn't let them run things.

Isn't cap and trade a market-based solution?

brainiac-dumdum: culebra: muck4doo: cronyism

Totally. Remember when Obama sat on the board of GE for all those years, only stepping down when he was elected?

His wife is still on the board too.

oh, wait...

I think Dachle dood is gone now. Michelle sat on other high paying boards.

/She should have sat on my peener

muck4doo: whidbey: muck4doo: the mark of whaarrrggarrble

Seeing as how your entire post was nothing but that, I savor the irony.

Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

Skookum was 3 years ago, but that didn't stop anyone now, did it?

I heard Skookum had another child recently. ( -fb was the father)

muck4doo: Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

Skookum was 3 years ago, but that didn't stop anyone now, did it?

What, is that supposed to make you somehow look good?

Or is this an admission that you're trolling this thread and have nothing constructive to offer but disengaged Republican hemorhhoids?

/skookum PREDATES you

muck4doo: whidbey: muck4doo: the mark of whaarrrggarrble

Seeing as how your entire post was nothing but that, I savor the irony.

Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

Skookum was 3 years ago, but that didn't stop anyone now, did it?

If you're going to be so sensitive, you should troll so obviously.

muck4doo: brainiac-dumdum: culebra: muck4doo: cronyism

Totally. Remember when Obama sat on the board of GE for all those years, only stepping down when he was elected?

His wife is still on the board too.

oh, wait...

I think Dachle dood is gone now. Michelle sat on other high paying boards.

/She should have sat on my peener

Thank god. I know Daschle was supposed to be qualified and what not, but he has a creepy mien and I always want to the police to check the crawl space of his house when I see him of the TV.

robot monkey: muck4doo: whidbey: muck4doo: the mark of whaarrrggarrble

Seeing as how your entire post was nothing but that, I savor the irony.

Come on muck4doo butthurt "Savior" jokes are so last year.

Skookum was 3 years ago, but that didn't stop anyone now, did it?

I heard Skookum had another child recently. ( -fb was the father)

Congrats on the ass baby whidbey! :)

/How many ounces?
//Does it have hair?
///Wants to know if it look more like -fb or skookum