Rubber stamps ain't our style.

Especially when you don't pay the tax?

yeah, but these aren't the "real" democrats...

"It's the Republicans who took the real beating: By a more than two to one margin, the Journal said, Americans trust Democrats over the GOP to pull the country out of the recession."

With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said tax increases on families making more than $250,000 a year are necessary to make a down payment on health care reform and to limit future budget deficits"

MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said tax increases on families making more than $250,000 a year are necessary to make a down payment on health care reform and to limit future budget deficits"

Well its mostly about letting the Bush tax cuts expire, but lets not let that get in the way of the bashing

This is bad news....for Obama.

It's not like a little tax ever hurt anybody who makes over $250,000 a year, subby.

Yes this is a good thing. The charities and the people benefit them have to suffer some more.
It is for the good of the country.
President Obama says so.

Without the new limits, a taxpayer in the proposed 39.6 percent tax bracket could save $396 in taxes from a $1,000 reduction in taxable income. Obama wants to limit deductions to the 28 percent bracket, meaning the same taxpayer would save only $280.

So you mean a person would be taxed an additional $100 on their $250,000 salary? My, oh, my. This will end charitable donation as we know it!

those that dont walk lock step with the libtards dont matter anyway.
ask lieberman, zell, kkk byrd, etc.

MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

Indeed, why provide health care for the unemployed when there are so many unemployed?

Podna: MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said tax increases on families making more than $250,000 a year are necessary to make a down payment on health care reform and to limit future budget deficits"

Well its mostly about letting the Bush tax cuts expire, but lets not let that get in the way of the bashing


I'd worry more about the banks, unemployment & inflation before i worried about universal health care. When you get the economy back on its feet, then you come back for something this expensive.

Republicans have been even more critical of the proposal, saying it would reduce charitable donations at a time when many charities are struggling.

"There are people with the means to help. Why would you make it harder for them to do it?" said Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, chairman of the Republican Policy Committee.


It would have been easier for him to just ask "Why do Democrats hate charities?" and save the spin.

Shaggy_C: Without the new limits, a taxpayer in the proposed 39.6 percent tax bracket could save $396 in taxes from a $1,000 reduction in taxable income. Obama wants to limit deductions to the 28 percent bracket, meaning the same taxpayer would save only $280.

So you mean a person would be taxed an additional $100 on their $250,000 salary? My, oh, my. This will end charitable donation as we know it!

Take this into consideration. In 2010, there will be no income threshold for the reduction in itemized deductions, meaning that no one's ID's will be reduced simply because of the amount of money that they make. This, in turn, will spur people to make charitable contributions to maximize their tax base. Then, one year later, those same contributions will be reduced 5% if your income is over $250K. Given that the prior year, these people saw no reduction in their ID's, why would they contribute the same amount in 2011 only to see their ID's reduced farther than they were in 2009?

Shaggy_C: So you mean a person would be taxed an additional $100 on their $250,000 salary? My, oh, my. This will end charitable donation as we know it!

Not just charitable donation, it will end Christian civilization!!! Somehow! CPAC said so!

FarkFish: those that dont walk lock step with the libtards dont matter anyway. win elections.

Strong with you, the butthurt is.

MonkeyButler: I'd worry more about the banks, unemployment & inflation before i worried about universal health care. When you get the economy back on its feet, then you come back for something this expensive.

The best way to get people back to work and keep them working is preventive medicine.

MonkeyButler: I'd worry more about the banks, unemployment & inflation before i worried about universal health care. When you get the economy back on its feet, then you come back for something this expensive.

If we had universal healthcare, I wouldn't be 7 grand in debt right now. That year end bonus coming at the end of the week could buy a lot of widgets - instead it's going straight to Visa. Consider that on a macro scale.

Submittard: You know the honeymoon is over when even Democrats are starting to complain about Obama's plans. It's not like a little tax ever hurt anybody

Because Democrats always agree with each other?!?!?

Retard, the Democrat party is not the "our leader told us to do this so we will do whatever he said" party like the Republicans.

MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said tax increases on families making more than $250,000 a year are necessary to make a down payment on health care reform and to limit future budget deficits"

Given that our future economic growth is going to depend in large part on whether we can control healthcare costs, hell yeah it is time to start something like this.

Renart: Shaggy_C: So you mean a person would be taxed an additional $100 on their $250,000 salary? My, oh, my. This will end charitable donation as we know it!

Not just charitable donation, it will end Christian civilization!!! Somehow! CPAC said so!

I could see that. A large portion of contribs are to religious orgs. If no one contributes, then some of them will fail and go under. I doubt it would end the Xtian civ, but I will posit that these charities and religious orgs will see a decrease in contribs.

Shaggy_C: MonkeyButler: I'd worry more about the banks, unemployment & inflation before i worried about universal health care. When you get the economy back on its feet, then you come back for something this expensive.

If we had universal healthcare, I wouldn't be 7 grand in debt right now. That year end bonus coming at the end of the week could buy a lot of widgets - instead it's going straight to Visa. Consider that on a macro scale.

I'm glad I'm still young and somewhat healthy same for my spouse.
Once he gets med insurance from his new job he has to get back on anti-depressants and other stuff

MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said tax increases on families making more than $250,000 a year are necessary to make a down payment on health care reform and to limit future budget deficits"

one of the huge, systemic problems in our economy is our health care system. it burdens business with costs that foreign competitors don't have to carry. it drives families into bankruptcy on a regular basis. it is one of the biggest drains on our federal budget.

it's not only time for health care reform, we can't afford to wait any longer.

Republicans before the election: Don't vote Democrats for congress or they are going to rubber stamp everything Obama does!!!


Republicans after the election: The Democrats are not rubber stamping everything Obama does, that means he is a failure.

FarkFish: those that dont walk lock step with the libtards dont matter anyway.
ask lieberman, zell, kkk byrd, etc.

OK. What should I ask Lieberman?

Breitbart's next hard-hitting, newsworthy article: Democrats are poopy-heads.

Why don't there seem to be any right-wingers that remember that donations to charity are tax-deductible?

Could it be because none of them have ever actually made donations to charity?

I love listening to all these losers b*tch about tax increase for a salary range they'll never reach.

It's good to see this administration FAIL so soon.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Why don't there seem to be any right-wingers that remember that donations to charity are tax-deductible?

Could it be because none of them have ever actually made donations to charity?

Go back and take a long hard look at my moobies. That'll explain your question for you.

Podna:

I'm glad I'm still young and somewhat healthy same for my spouse.
Once he gets med insurance from his new job he has to get back on anti-depressants and other stuff


Seems like a relationship with someone like you might do that to a person.

aselene: It's good to see this administration FAIL so soon.

Because if you proved anything these past 8 years, the unquestioning passage of potentially disastrous policies is the definition of "WIN".

MonkeyButler: I'd worry more about the banks, unemployment & inflation before i worried about universal health care. When you get the economy back on its feet, then you come back for something this expensive.

And what when the ER has to shut it's doors to everyone? Or the EMT only picks you off the street if you can provide a local address (be sure not to leave your county)?

Bigger picture, just for thought:

With the glaring flaws evident in the government's inability to do anything on time, under budget, and generally effectively, is some form of universal healthcare really a good idea at a point where the country is financially unstable?

I'm not even getting into tax brackets or income. Generally speaking, I'm one of those people who can't really trust the federal government to undertake something as complicated as universal healthcare without making it confusingly inefficient at the least, downright disastrous at worst.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Why don't there seem to be any right-wingers that remember that donations to charity are tax-deductible?

Could it be because none of them have ever actually made donations to charity?

Uh, you have absolutely no idea what the charity complaint is about, do you?

It's OK, we can wait for you to graduate from high-school civics, I guess.

PAPASandBEER: Seems like a relationship with someone like you might do that to a person.

Good thing you'll never have to worry about anything like that.

Corvus:

Retard, the Democrat party is not the "our leader told us to do this so we will do whatever he said" party like the Republicans.

Unless they are, in which case GET ON BOARD EVERYONE, THE SHORT BUS'S LEAVIN'!

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: FarkFish: those that dont walk lock step with the libtards dont matter anyway.
ask lieberman, zell, kkk byrd, etc.

OK. What should I ask Lieberman?

How marginalization feels?
What it's like to fail at being a Democrat AND at being a shill for Republicans?
If he has a retirement plan for after the next election?
Good gefilte fish or matzah ball soup recipes?

sgilman: I love listening to all these losers b*tch about tax increase for a salary range they'll never reach.

I don't shoot guns - let's outlaw them

I don't drink - let's tax the shiat out of booze

I walk to work - let's tax mileage.

Meh, who cares.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Why don't there seem to be any right-wingers that remember that donations to charity are tax-deductible?

Could it be because none of them have ever actually made donations to charity?

None of them understand the concept of marginal tax rates either, but that doesn't stop them from railing against a 3% increase in a bracket they'll never hope to see in their lives.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: PAPASandBEER: Seems like a relationship with someone like you might do that to a person.

Good thing you'll never have to worry about anything like that.

Very true, I haven't a homosexual bone in my body.
/No pun intended.

MonkeyButler: With the economy in the in the shiatter, is it the time to start something like this?

There's no better time: when things are going well, no one wants to make substantial changes in public policy. It's only when the economy is in the toilet that real changes can be made.

Just ask FDR!

/you can't, he's dead

bush: I'm one of those people who can't really trust the federal government to undertake something as complicated as universal healthcare without making it confusingly inefficient at the least, downright disastrous at worst.

Unlike the private sector, which is the model of efficiency I suppose. After all, I'm sure the geniuses at AIG, GM, Enron, Lehman Brothers, and Worldcom could teach us all how to run an efficient system.
You do realize that just about every other industrialized country has the government running their healthcare system at a lower cost than our system, don't you?

I've had problems with plenty of Obama's plans. However, IMO, he's not being leftist enough. We need to let Bush's tax cuts go the way of the dodo.

Get over it

Marxism is here

winterwhile: Get over it

Marxism is here

republicans keep using this word, along with socialism, i do not think they have any idea what it means.

the tax rate for the richest in this country between eisenhower and nixon was around 70%

ike, kennedy, johnson, nixon

all marxists, amirite

RemyDuron
I've had problems with plenty of Obama's plans. However, IMO, he's not being leftist enough. We need to let Bush's tax cuts go the way of the dodo.

Yep lets kill of the American dream

we now all work for the Government

Free gas, free Mortgages, free eveything, I think I will quit and get some free stuff