This explains so much about so much.

AtticusFinchEsq: This explains so much about so much.

If the Republicans allow Limbaugh to set their direction and control their destiny, they'll lose any hope of regaining control of congress for DECADES.

He would like that, but the fact is that Republicans see him as a nut job too.

crimsin23: He would like that, but the fact is that Republicans see him as a nut job too.

They sure have a funny way of showing that.

tchamber: crimsin23: He would like that, but the fact is that Republicans see him as a nut job too.

They sure have a funny way of showing that.

quite a lot of the rank and file think Limbaugh is loony toons. But they don't count anymore. The people who call the shots in the party - the ones who matter - THEY think Limbaugh has the right ideas. If they believed otherwise, he wouldn't have given the keynote speech at CPAC this weekend.

No, old Rahmy here is right - the Republican leadership is following Limbaugh's advice. Or at least using him to get their message out. Just whom is controlling whom is a bit murky, but for now that's an irrelvant distinction.

Weaver95: AtticusFinchEsq: This explains so much about so much.

If the Republicans allow Limbaugh to set their direction and control their destiny, they'll lose any hope of regaining control of congress for DECADES.

What do you mean "if"?

crimsin23: He would like that, but the fact is that Republicans see him as a nut job too.

Then why did he give the keynote address at the CPAC?

Why was a congressman required to grovel apologetically when he said that Rush DIDN'T speak for the party?

pretty much where I go to get my updates on the GOP... a liberal blogsite and Rahm Emanuel.

Oh yea, and here. I find all of your hate enlightening.

Chindit: pretty much where I go to get my updates on the GOP... a liberal blogsite and Rahm Emanuel.

Oh yea, and here. I find all of your hate enlightening.

Then this should be your ticket to nirvana: Please STFU.

"the guy that can be counted on to show up for, donate to and vote Republican, no matter what"

This doesn't make you loyal, it makes you an idiot.

rahm should have called it "the republic party" just to twist the knife a bit.

Chindit: pretty much where I go to get my updates on the GOP... a liberal blogsite and Rahm Emanuel.

Limbaugh gave the keynote speech at CPAC. I'd say he's ranked pretty high up there as far as Republican leadership goes.

Oh yea, and here. I find all of your hate enlightening.

I don't care enough about the Republicans to hate them. At most, i'm disappointed to see all that potential go to waste. They let the fundies grab control of the party and now they'll wither away into uselessness. I'm just hoping we can prevent them from doing too much damage once the realization of their impending doom sinks into their apocalyptic little brains.

FlashHarry: rahm should have called it "the republic party" just to twist the knife a bit.

The freepers would have seen that as a compliment.

I wonder what they'll do when they figure out Rush is the anti-christ. Fun times ahead.

/kidding
//or am I??

sarty: I wonder what they'll do when they figure out Rush is the anti-christ.

just toss him a bottle of oxycotin and we're safe from apocalypse and the end times.

If Rush expands his power base beyond radio and into real leadership, I have a feeling that the stories about his trips to the Caribbean (and what he does there) will start to be taken a little more seriously.

If they're true, a senator with a wide stance will look like silly playtime in comparison.

FlashHarry: rahm should have called it "the republic party" just to twist the knife a bit.

Ooooh, I like it.

What I love about this is that once again, Obama has completely outmaneuvered the opposition. Once of the goals of the Republican Party in obstructing the stimulus bill was to divide and conquer the Democrats by driving a wedge between Obama and the Congress. Instead, Obama has continuously provoked Limbaugh, which prompts him to puff out his chest and say something stupid, which in turn prompts the Congressional Republicans to try and minimizes the comments, which sets off the social conservative base who worships Limbaugh, which forces the Congressional leadership to come crawling back for forgiveness, which ultimately proves Obama's assertions about Limbaugh in the first place.

Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

Do it, guys, seriously! How could you lose? C'mon, do it.

Calmamity: Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

Do it, guys, seriously! How could you lose? C'mon, do it.

Limbagh will never run for public office.

Chindit: pretty much where I go to get my updates on the GOP... a liberal blogsite and Rahm Emanuel.

Oh yea, and here. I find all of your hate enlightening.

You should share your enlightenment with the rest of your ilk. It's not likely to help, but the documented attempts would at least make for some fun reading.

Weaver95: Calmamity: Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

Do it, guys, seriously! How could you lose? C'mon, do it.

Limbagh will never run for public office.

No way. Too little freedom and too little power. He would actually have to be held accountable for his actions.

Weaver95: Calmamity: Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

Do it, guys, seriously! How could you lose? C'mon, do it.

Limbagh will never run for public office.

I don't really see Limbaugh running much for anything.

cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: Calmamity: Limbaugh/Palin 2012!

Do it, guys, seriously! How could you lose? C'mon, do it.

Limbagh will never run for public office.

I don't really see Limbaugh running much for anything.

Maybe if you hung Oxycontin on a stick in front of him.

St_Francis_P: Maybe if you hung Oxycontin on a stick in front of him.

Oxycontin wrapped in bacon.

Atillathepun: Oxycontin wrapped in bacon.

On a stick. And deep fried with funnel cakes.

rahm emmanuel...is a pussy and part of the reason we true democrats cannot hold power long enough to get shiat done.

just call him an asshole and get on with it.

-draw the farking line, already.

mentat...
"What I love about this is that once again, Obama has completely outmaneuvered the opposition. Once of the goals of the Republican Party in obstructing the stimulus bill was to divide and conquer the Democrats by driving a wedge between Obama and the Congress. Instead, Obama has continuously provoked Limbaugh, which prompts him to puff out his chest and say something stupid, which in turn prompts the Congressional Republicans to try and minimizes the comments, which sets off the social conservative base who worships Limbaugh, which forces the Congressional leadership to come crawling back for forgiveness, which ultimately proves Obama's assertions about Limbaugh in the first place."

i agree 100%...until some knuckledragger shoots up a liberal arts school...because "it says liberal" on the sign out front.

-rush is a white trash hitler wannabe.

Emmanuel uses his tongue prettier than a $20 whore.

Bauer:

i agree 100%...until some knuckledragger shoots up a liberal arts school...because "it says liberal" on the sign out front.


Does some knuckledragger shooting up a church because it's "too liberal" count?

Bauer: just call him an asshole and get on with it.

Saying rush is an ass just gives Rush ammo, appearing to say Rush runs the GOP or is at least their driving force, is far more damaging.

Skillfully done, but playing divide and conquer with the Republican Party is dangerous.
If the merely conservative majority threw out the batshiat crazy fundamentalists running the show, they might actually stand a chance of getting elected again.
Like I said; dangerous.

Procedural Texture: Skillfully done, but playing divide and conquer with the Republican Party is dangerous.
If the merely conservative majority threw out the batshiat crazy fundamentalists running the show, they might actually stand a chance of getting elected again.
Like I said; dangerous.

I don't think the Republicans can get rid of the wacko fundies. in fact, I think the fundies are going to only solidify their hold on the Republicans. They believe (and I mean really truly believe) that fiscal conservatives are traitors and apostates. they hate people like me more than those 'evil liburls'. They would rather destroy the Republican party than see it 'weakened' by compromise.

I see this downward spiral of the Republican party ending poorly, in one of two ways:

1) Civil War 2, Electric Boogaloo. This time it's not Blue vs. Grey, but Blue vs. Red. Red probably wouldn't put up as good of a fight as Grey did. Precision air strikes are a favorite weapon of Blue, and they're a biatch.

2) The Republican Party continues to hemorrhage support from all major demographics, resulting in single party rule for decades. The Democrats become tolerated as the "lesser of two evils" until a new, non-crazy party is created and gives them a run for their money. This results in the new party majority with D/R fighting for table scraps. Not a bad scenario in the end, but the 15-20 years before it's completely played out are scary.

chemical_angel: Limbagh will never run for public office.

No way. Too little freedom and too little power. He would actually have to be held accountable for his actions.

Plus there's that whole government-job-mandated-pee-in-a-cup issue to avoid.

Weaver95: that fiscal conservatives are traitors and apostates

What's sad is those people have nowhere to go now. Best they can hope for is to gain some exposure and push the GOP off a cliff, then reassemble the wreckage.

WhyteRaven74: Weaver95: that fiscal conservatives are traitors and apostates

What's sad is those people have nowhere to go now. Best they can hope for is to gain some exposure and push the GOP off a cliff, then reassemble the wreckage.

The libertarian party is as good a place to park it for a while. I think the Republicans really are going to tear themselves apart. The real test is going to be the congressional mid-term elections. If they win big, it means that Limbaugh and crew have cemented their control of the party and have support at the local/state level. If they hold on/minimal gains, it means another 2 years of internal party strife. If they lose by any margin, it means the downward slide will likely continue and the Republicans won't be able to do much until 2012.

Weaver95: If they lose by any margin, it means the downward slide will likely continue and the Republicans won't be able to do much until 2012.

Yep and I don't see them managing to do much at the mid terms. And I can several ways for them to make things worse by then for themselves.

WhyteRaven74: Weaver95: If they lose by any margin, it means the downward slide will likely continue and the Republicans won't be able to do much until 2012.

Yep and I don't see them managing to do much at the mid terms. And I can several ways for them to make things worse by then for themselves.

The worst of all possible scenarios (from the Republican perspective anyway) is for the Republicans to just 'hang on' in the mid-term elections. that would prolong the internal strife and leave the party distracted/divided as they try to prep for the 2012 Presidential election cycle, as well as leaving them in a weak position in Congress.

At that point, all the democrats have to do is NOT shoot themselves in the foot and they win.

Mentat: What I love about this is that once again, Obama has completely outmaneuvered the opposition. Once of the goals of the Republican Party in obstructing the stimulus bill was to divide and conquer the Democrats by driving a wedge between Obama and the Congress. Instead, Obama has continuously provoked Limbaugh, which prompts him to puff out his chest and say something stupid, which in turn prompts the Congressional Republicans to try and minimizes the comments, which sets off the social conservative base who worships Limbaugh, which forces the Congressional leadership to come crawling back for forgiveness, which ultimately proves Obama's assertions about Limbaugh in the first place.

This. This. This.

For the past year Obama has continually succeeded where damn near every Democrat has failed in the last half-century: outmaneuver Republicans.

Depending on how things go over the next year - and how fast people can organize - the Libertarians could be strong competition against the Republicans (in some areas) in time for mid-terms, but the Republicans would have to immediately kick out the fringe if they want to stand a chance in 2012.

The government should be fighting Al Queda and not Rush Limbaugh. He is a nobody. If you disagree, then answer this: If Rush Limbaugh were so farking powerful, why is Barack 0bama our POTUS? Certainly not because RL supported him.

The dems ought to read the farking constitution and remember this little thing called the 1st farking amendment.

Dan the Schman: For the past year Obama has continually succeeded where damn near every Democrat has failed in the last half-century: outmaneuver Republicans..

Republicans hell, Obama out-thought the Clintons. Assuming he can keep the she-beast witch queen in check, he's free to concentrate on his plans in Congress.

With enemies like Rush Limbaugh, who needs friends?

I consider Rush Limbaugh the face of the Republican Party.

This is why I laugh at Republicans so much.

Weaver95: I don't think the Republicans can get rid of the wacko fundies. in fact, I think the fundies are going to only solidify their hold on the Republicans. They believe (and I mean really truly believe) that fiscal conservatives are traitors and apostates. they hate people like me more than those 'evil liburls'. They would rather destroy the Republican party than see it 'weakened' by compromise.

I was in Maine this week and while unsuccessfully navigating the endless peninsulas, I listened to one of the local conservative talk radio people. Howie something, fairly sane as far as talk radio hosts go. Anyways, several listeners called in to blast Snowe and Collins for, in their words, "betraying the people of Maine" by voting for the stimulus package.

He will be the final nail in the Republican's coffin.

Seriously, third parties who wanted the political spotlight:

NOW'S YOUR CHANCE!

Rush is wise. Rush is good. Rush is Gopp.

What a classic insult!

Reminds me of a line from the Steve Martin movie, Roxanne, where the mayor says something like, "I'd rather be with you folks than the best people on earth!"

From Rush's speech:

"Don't measure your success by how many people like you. Just worry about how they vote. And then at the end of the day how they live, but that's really none of your business once they close the doors."

The only thing Rush said that made sense...and it goes against everything the Republican platform stands for.

Sarah Palin wants to control every uterus in this country. You think she agrees with Rush's last statement? Nope.

I would like to squeeze out a nice, firm, greasy turd right into Limbaugh's waiting, gaping mouth.

Rhino_man: I see this downward spiral of the Republican party ending poorly, in one of two ways:

1) Civil War 2, Electric Boogaloo. This time it's not Blue vs. Grey, but Blue vs. Red. Red probably wouldn't put up as good of a fight as Grey did. Precision air strikes are a favorite weapon of Blue, and they're a biatch.

2) The Republican Party continues to hemorrhage support from all major demographics, resulting in single party rule for decades. The Democrats become tolerated as the "lesser of two evils" until a new, non-crazy party is created and gives them a run for their money. This results in the new party majority with D/R fighting for table scraps. Not a bad scenario in the end, but the 15-20 years before it's completely played out are scary.

Or the dems will invariably bite off more than they can chew outraging a good precentage of the public and forces the repubs to get their shiat together. Happened in 94 and 06, why not now?