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(Boston Globe) Interesting More older Americans are working beyond retirement age, shutting young whippersnappers out of the job market   (boston.com) divider line 182
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kbarham 2009-02-28 04:10:57 PM  
Who will care for their lawns?

 
deevo 2009-02-28 04:11:50 PM  
We really need to do with the boomers what Futurama did with their elderly.

 
NotSubby 2009-02-28 04:12:38 PM  
They're better workers, too.

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:13:33 PM  
Maybe we should deploy mandatory, permanent retirement plans instead?

blogs.amctv.com

 
ProfessorPedal 2009-02-28 04:14:29 PM  
Wait, there's a job market?

No one tells me these things. Finally, I can stop selling my bodily fluids.

 
blueknight 2009-02-28 04:14:53 PM  
they need to work to pay for their medicine. this is one of the many reasons we need national health care

 
berylman 2009-02-28 04:15:09 PM  
Is that a Geritol stain on this job application?

 
vanhalenfan32 2009-02-28 04:15:27 PM  
so what you think you can drain social security to the point where I'll be taking flintstones vitamins to treat my arthritis & Alzheimer's when I'm old AND take my cousin's job providing terrible service to people at Best Buy?! fark you old man!

 
Pincy 2009-02-28 04:16:16 PM  
Maybe they can move my barbells up into my attic?

 
Wombatron 2009-02-28 04:16:35 PM  
Plus, older people save the companies money on health care costs. Don't forget, that older workers often make less on average than their younger counterparts.

 
enjoyduff 2009-02-28 04:17:31 PM  
I'm sorry, what was the article about? I got distracted by the Patriots Cheerleader article on the right.

cache.boston.com

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2009-02-28 04:18:42 PM  
Exactly how does a retired grocery-store owner keep me from getting a job in the Biotech sector?

I blame the companies that lie about H1-B visas, not the immigrants coming here.

 
Xlr8urfark 2009-02-28 04:20:14 PM  
yeah, maybe if my job was a wal-mart greeter.

 
JC_Wicked 2009-02-28 04:21:40 PM  
enjoyduff: I'm sorry, what was the article about? I got distracted by the Patriots Cheerleader article on the right.

lol as well with the other pictures too, which led me to this 41 year old among the ones trying out.. which would be related to this article wouldn't it? They're everywhere.

cache.boston.com

 
fernandez 2009-02-28 04:21:57 PM  
enjoyduff: I'm sorry, what was the article about? I got distracted by the Patriots Cheerleader article on the right.

This is an outra...

I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

 
captainstudd 2009-02-28 04:22:16 PM  
enjoyduff: I'm sorry, what was the article about? I got distracted by the Patriots Cheerleader article on the right.


I prefer this one:


cache.boston.com

 
patspfs 2009-02-28 04:26:31 PM  
They are doing they jobs that young American's won't do.

/If this argument works for illegal aliens, why not legal, older Americans?

 
95629 2009-02-28 04:26:42 PM  
This just happened in the airline industry... as its seniority driven, it directly depends on the old guys retiring so the young guys can move up. The old guys just got the mandatory retirement age (which they benefited from their entire careers) raised from 60 to 65.

This essentially put a 5 year freeze on the careers of every pilot in the country and will make it so that to be at the same position in your career, you have to be 5 years older from now on. Thousands of pilots have been furloughed / put on the street without other jobs to go to in order for senior pilots to work for a couple more years. Busy paying off their vacation home while guys at the bottom of the list are worried about how they're going to keep the house they live in.


Sucks for the airlines too... their entire workforce is getting more longevity for the next 5 years without any replacements coming in, so their labor costs are going to rise substantially.

Those old farts are screwing over everyone.

 
Juniper Jupiter [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:27:11 PM  
My dad's frickin' insane.

He just turned 69 this month, retired 10 years ago, and STILL works. Must've been all that farming he did as a kid with his dad. It's like he has this...drive in him that makes him go nuts if he sits still for more than a week.

/When he gave me that "4 in the morning, walk to school in the snow..." speech, it wasn't far from the truth.

 
xav 2009-02-28 04:27:36 PM  
Well, they work 20 hours a week, no wonder. No gen-y could be hired for such stressful job.

 
rewind2846 2009-02-28 04:27:50 PM  
...and then biatching that these kids won't get off their lawns and get jobs!
/why, back in MY day...

 
studebaker hoch 2009-02-28 04:28:07 PM  
My fav:

i42.tinypic.com



/fap fap fap

 
nomdeplume713 2009-02-28 04:28:23 PM  
i41.tinypic.com

 
MadCat221 2009-02-28 04:28:40 PM  
Meh. They'll still die eventually.

 
studebaker hoch 2009-02-28 04:29:09 PM  
Old people got to be old for a reason.

 
Landlocked Pirate 2009-02-28 04:33:28 PM  
I'd be happy to do my dad's job. He got it right out of college with a bachelor's degree. That was the early 70s. To get that same job now, you need a master's and at least 5 years of experience. Plus, you don't have to do the calculations by hand anymore; they're part of the computer programs.

And yet he still expresses wonder that I had to go back to school after getting my bachelor's.

 
TheJoe03 [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:33:30 PM  
Man our generation is really getting farked at every turn.

 
Aulus [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:33:36 PM  
Awwww, poor babies! We older folks just won't get out of the way!

I will be 60 in May and I fully intend to be working probably another two decades, at least. Just sitting around all day in a rocker like my grandparents did, is, for me, a fate worse than death.

Twelve years ago, after getting laid off from several insurance companies "down sizing," I was getting nowhere interviewing with other insurance companies, as the guys doing the interviewing were ten to fifteen or more years younger than I. You could just see it in their eyes that they didn't want to hire a guy older and more experienced than they. Sure, it was in violation of age discrimination laws, but they knew the ways arond that.

So, I got back into teaching, and found temp and part-time jobs. I found areas where my age and experience was a plus and ran with it.

Kids want to piss and moan about us blocking their prospects? Bullshiat. You make you own prospects.

 
Plastic Trash Vortex 2009-02-28 04:33:38 PM  
That's ok, it's not like large groups of unemployed, pissed off young people with lots of time on their hands ever cause mischief.

 
halB 2009-02-28 04:34:15 PM  
Social Security was created by FDR to get old farts out of their jobs, so young farts could take over and actually learn a skill.

//think before you talk about "socialism"

 
Brakefornobody 2009-02-28 04:34:48 PM  
The fact that they are literate and can do math probably factors into it somehow.

 
docilej 2009-02-28 04:34:54 PM  
Too many damn people are having too many damn kids.

 
halB 2009-02-28 04:35:48 PM  
Plastic Trash Vortex: That's ok, it's not like large groups of unemployed, pissed off young people with lots of time on their hands ever cause mischief.

Can we TF this guy?

 
bhcompy 2009-02-28 04:36:35 PM  
Well, they have to. Who else knows Cobol, Fortran, Pick, Assembly, and every other dying language/technology?

 
signaljammer 2009-02-28 04:37:20 PM  
What if we find ourselves in a structural situation in which there are more workers than work? Will platitudes alone rectify this?

 
Therion [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:37:37 PM  
That's right, kids! Older folks don't want to retire, relax, and comfortably live off of their life's savings. They *want* to eat cat food and work at barely above minimum wage jobs!

Buy your onions now, they'll only go up in price.

 
TheJoe03 [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:38:21 PM  
Aulus: Awwww, poor babies! We older folks just won't get out of the way!

I will be 60 in May and I fully intend to be working probably another two decades, at least. Just sitting around all day in a rocker like my grandparents did, is, for me, a fate worse than death.

Twelve years ago, after getting laid off from several insurance companies "down sizing," I was getting nowhere interviewing with other insurance companies, as the guys doing the interviewing were ten to fifteen or more years younger than I. You could just see it in their eyes that they didn't want to hire a guy older and more experienced than they. Sure, it was in violation of age discrimination laws, but they knew the ways arond that.

So, I got back into teaching, and found temp and part-time jobs. I found areas where my age and experience was a plus and ran with it.

Kids want to piss and moan about us blocking their prospects? Bullshiat. You make you own prospects.


It's not your fault, it's the how the system has turned out basically. Back in your time you could get a good job out of high school. Now we gotta work 2 shiat jobs just to eat and have a roof over our head. It's a lot harder to make it now than it was back in the day, that's a fact.

 
kbarham 2009-02-28 04:38:51 PM  
captainstudd:
I prefer this one:
cache.boston.com


I have the same look on my face as the woman behind her, except my left hand is furiously moving toward my junk.

 
rewind2846 2009-02-28 04:40:30 PM  
MadCat221: Meh. They'll still die eventually.

There is an alternative... if we plan it right... many new jobs...
img8.imageshack.us

 
overlord 2009-02-28 04:40:38 PM  
kbarham: Who will care for their lawns?

Mexicans?

 
netcentric 2009-02-28 04:42:20 PM  
Dad's 77. Still works. Sets his own hours.

Does more work than 4 twenty somethings, who were there before him.
He needs no coddling, no special treatment. The twenty somethings who were kicked to the curb, were high maintenance.


But he does think Tiger Woods is a sissy....? I don't know...but tigger does seem coddled. Oh, well he's rich so he doesn't count.

 
AmazingRuss 2009-02-28 04:42:28 PM  
blueknight: they need to work to pay for their medicine. this is one of the many reasons we need national health care

So we can pay for their medicine?

 
mmagdalene [TotalFark] 2009-02-28 04:43:03 PM  
Some of the substitute teachers I see are well into their 70's. Then there are the teachers just phoning it in and collecting a paycheck after 30+ years...fortunately, those seem to be a minority. As with most schools, we're thick with secretaries, administrators, treasurers, counselors, assistant principals, IT people, etc.

I have no problem with forcing people into retirement say, after 25 years. By then they have a guaranteed lifetime pension and benefits and a chance at a second career if they want one. Their salary would easily pay for two energetic 1st-year teachers.

As it is, I feel terrible for aspiring teachers in this town. All the job fairs have been canceled and there's even competition to work as an unpaid "intern" after surviving 12 weeks of unpaid student teaching.

 
acchief 2009-02-28 04:44:16 PM  
FTA: Sum said the federal government needs to create job programs aimed at teens and young adults, including wage subsidies to encourage employers to hire them. The study calls for programs to create up to 1 million summer jobs for young adults in school and 500,000 full-time jobs for those out of school.

Who makes shovels? Now would be a good time to invest in shovel manufacturers.

 
Darth Shatner 2009-02-28 04:46:32 PM  
blueknight: they need to work to pay for their medicine. this is one of the many reasons we need national health care

i15.photobucket.com

 
Sue Dunham 2009-02-28 04:46:48 PM  
vanhalenfan32: so what you think you can drain social security to the point where I'll be taking flintstones vitamins to treat my arthritis & Alzheimer's when I'm old AND take my cousin's job providing terrible service to people at Best Buy?! fark you old man!

Here we go again. All the generation whatevers jumped on this myth about boomers using up the social security. It runs on credit just like everything else in America.
/ Retired at 56
// doing fine
/// still haven't touched gov't pension

 
Bacontastesgood 2009-02-28 04:48:08 PM  
rewind2846: There is an alternative... if we plan it right... many new jobs...

I am getting the biggest craving for a soylent green brownie right about now. One that has a bitter-middle-school-teacher aftertaste.

Either that, or skanky cheerleader, that would definitely be nice.

 
cherryl taggart 2009-02-28 04:48:11 PM  
I'm almost 20 years older than my boss, because he says he specifically wanted older when he hired. He wanted someone who would stick around in the good times and the bad. He also said in his last set-up, he tried hiring in his age group, but most wanted too much money for too little experience and too much attitude for his too little patience. In these bad times, I'm glad he lets me read Fark most of the day, while we wait for clients.

 
Je5tEr 2009-02-28 04:50:19 PM  
mmagdalene: Some of the substitute teachers I see are well into their 70's. Then there are the teachers just phoning it in and collecting a paycheck after 30+ years...fortunately, those seem to be a minority. As with most schools, we're thick with secretaries, administrators, treasurers, counselors, assistant principals, IT people, etc.

I have no problem with forcing people into retirement say, after 25 years. By then they have a guaranteed lifetime pension and benefits and a chance at a second career if they want one. Their salary would easily pay for two energetic 1st-year teachers.

As it is, I feel terrible for aspiring teachers in this town. All the job fairs have been canceled and there's even competition to work as an unpaid "intern" after surviving 12 weeks of unpaid student teaching.


Where the hell are you teaching that you are thick with IT people? Unless its a private school I call shenanigans.

 
PoderOmega 2009-02-28 04:53:26 PM  
I though Business 101 was to fire older workers and hire kids out of college!

 
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