I hope the speech was videotaped. I'd love to see if the prof was somehow justified, or completely paranoid.

I don't personally support conceal-carry on college campuses, but it's still a topic that deserves open and honest debate.

This professor needs to be terminated immediately.

Reporting a student for making a presentation?

I anyone got "uncomfortable" discussing the idea of concealed-carry laws on campus in a class discussion, then maybe those students don't need to be in college. The purpose of the institution is the free discussion of ideas. The professor is a jackass, and the students who may have shown "discomfort" are sheltered little snowflakes.

Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them.

Don't worry, you stupid paranoid conservatives and libertarians! Registration laws are only meant to keep us all safe and cozy, and would never be abused by people who think guns are killing machines of the devil.

Jesus Christ, this is stupid.

Unless this guy's presentation devolved into a list of targets, this stupid professor needs to calm the fark down. Her job is to encourage critical thinking, not stifle discussion.

I don't think guns belong on college campuses, but I don't we should jail people who disagree with me.

I would love to see the presentation, but either way since none of the students complained, I would say this professor was way out of bounds.

I don't support conceal-carry laws on a university campus since in my mind it really destroys the atmosphere of the place. However I do entirely support a debate on the subject. Heck it would probably make a good law class debate or something. A university is where one should be able to openly express ideas that can be thoughtfully debate.

That prof was way out of line.

what_now: I don't think guns belong on college campuses,

Personally I think Michigan's law on the matter illustrates just how absurd campus gun bans are. I can drive through campus with a loaded gun in my car. I walk walk around campus with a gun on my hip. I can eat lunch in the commons area and I can go to the library.

But if I enroll in a class I can't take it into the actual classroom. I could stand right outside that door and be legal, but a single foot farther and I become a criminal.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

smooshie: Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them.

Don't worry, you stupid paranoid conservatives and libertarians! Registration laws are only meant to keep us all safe and cozy, and would never be abused by people who think guns are killing machines of the devil.

That's why I try to buy guns second-hand whenever possible. It's better if the government doesn't know what guns you have.

RodneyToady: I hope the speech was videotaped. I'd love to see if the prof was somehow justified, or completely paranoid.

This.

As someone who has to teach, on occasion, firearm safety on college campuses, I getting a kick out of these replies.

In all seriousness, though, I feel that campus concealed carry laws should be at least modified so that staff may carry, if not students (although that brings up the issue of the 30+ year old students on college campuses who DO have the maturity to handle a firearm, to say nothing of veterans who are exercising their GI Bill benefits).

And regardless, the prof is completely off her rocker. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure she's legally compelled to report the student - MANY campuses have a variant on the rule "if, in your opinion, the student represents a threat to himself or others, you are required to report him to security...". Whether her opinion is justified doesn't technically enter into it - if in her opinion anyone who supports firearms is a threat, it falls under the rule.

She's still a coont, though. You should be able to freely express an opinion at a university, if anywhere.

jbuist: Doesn't make much sense to me.

It makes more sense when you realize that it's mostly leftward leaning individuals who promote those laws. (Not all leftward leaning individuals of course. I'm just talking about the issue of Pro-gun control.) Reality, practicality, and logic for these people are afterthoughts.

To the people who are for stuff like that, if it makes them feel good, it's a good idea. How else would you explain the 1994 AWB, one gun a month laws, microstamping, etc?

Quite a few, like Carolyn McCarthy, Have no idea what they are banning. (new window) Why should those people be taken seriously?

what_now: I don't think guns belong on college campuses, but I don't we should jail people who disagree with me.

yeah, i'll agree with that.

We have no idea what his presentation content was nor how it would make a reasonable person think he was or wasn't a threat, but lets all use this as a Rorschach test for our political leanings while acting like we know with absolute certainty how we should feel about this murky incident.

Yay for low information outrage thread!

Crosshair: jbuist: Doesn't make much sense to me.

It makes more sense when you realize that it's mostly leftward leaning individuals who promote those laws. (Not all leftward leaning individuals of course. I'm just talking about the issue of Pro-gun control.) Reality, practicality, and logic for these people are afterthoughts.

To the people who are for stuff like that, if it makes them feel good, it's a good idea. How else would you explain the 1994 AWB, one gun a month laws, microstamping, etc?

Quite a few, like Carolyn McCarthy, Have no idea what they are banning. (new window) Why should those people be taken seriously?

Thank you for posting that video. That says a lot.

They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel "scared and uncomfortable".

Ladies and germs, the future of your country. Jebus, Nancy, and Joseph we are screwed as a country.

/bring on the Thought Police !

As a gun-owning college instructor, I think there should be open debate about the topic, but I don't really want anyone bringing guns to my class, either.

//and if they get to bring guns, I at least want to be able to wear a sword in class...//

Might have to check her out on RateMyProfessor.com

See if other student's have felt that she's a mush as well.

Straelbora: //and if they get to bring guns, I at least want to be able to wear a sword in class...//

Go into teaching stage combat in the theatre department. I get to.

jbuist: what_now: I don't think guns belong on college campuses,

Personally I think Michigan's law on the matter illustrates just how absurd campus gun bans are. I can drive through campus with a loaded gun in my car. I walk walk around campus with a gun on my hip. I can eat lunch in the commons area and I can go to the library.

But if I enroll in a class I can't take it into the actual classroom. I could stand right outside that door and be legal, but a single foot farther and I become a criminal.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

what's even dumber is this is MICHIGAN you are talking about. the first day of Deer season is basically a mandatory Holiday. NO ONE SHOWS, the professors, the staff. everyone except the out-of-state kids who don't understand what the big deal is.

Ccsu is a really odd school. There was one case where two papers were submitted similarly and it was determined one copied the other. One was a guy and the other was a girl. The guy submitted that he had a file that was timecoded to when he wrote it but the girl said her computer crashed or something. The school still arbitrarily blamed the guy and was expelled and the girl went completely unpunished.

That what's happens at state colleges, some of the administrators think they're university level and actually qualitfy to be part of the pc bullshiat. Cmon just educate the townies so they can work in their cubicles

Straelbora: As a gun-owning college instructor, I think there should be open debate about the topic, but I don't really want anyone bringing guns to my class, either.

//and if they get to bring guns, I at least want to be able to wear a sword in class...//

What's stopping them today?

Relax, it was not a real university just some place in Connecticut.
Also not a real professor, just some silly woman.

schatzie: Might have to check her out on RateMyProfessor.com

See if other student's have felt that she's a mush as well.

Please do. Its enlightening.

She has great ratings until a bunch of internet conservatards begin "rating her" because of this incident.

Samples before this incident:

Wish Ms. Anderson could teach all my Comm courses. One of the nicest and best teachers. Makes the class fun and relaxed enviornment so your not nervous for speeches. Definitly take a class with her if you can.

Mrs anderson is the best. She is really nice and funny and loves athletes... if you are an athlete take a class with her! Her test are kinda hard, but she grades your speeches fairly and if you try and go to class you will atleast get a B or higher.

Prof Anderson is pretty good. Her exams can be a bit tricky. She teaches directly from the book. There is a group and an individual presentation for the class. If you do well on those, you should do fine in the class.

Samples from after the incident:

Marxist

idiot

Facist who will call the cops on you if you express a point of view different than her own.

Extremely closed-minded, rude, typically late to class, and above all unprofessional. Easily one of the worst professors I have had at the university level. Probably should not hold a job in academia...

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live in a police state? Well wonder no more, because as soon as you give a speach about somthing she doesn't like, then the cops will be calling you down for questioning.

I wonder how many of those are actually from people that are enrolled in her class.

Straelbora: As a gun-owning college instructor, I think there should be open debate about the topic, but I don't really want anyone bringing guns to my class, either.

//and if they get to bring guns, I at least want to be able to wear a sword in class...//

What is preventing a student from bringing in a gun to your classroom today? Do you search all students at the door? Do you ask your students to raise there hand if they have a gun? Do you have a metal detector at the door?

Why did I figure this was VT?

Nick Nostril: What's stopping them today?

Physically nothing. Most college campuses in the US are designated as "gun-free zones", where local laws regarding open or concealed carry are suborned into "THOU SHALT NOT CARRY A GUN". It is widely believed among college faculty that this will prevent someone from bringing a gun onto campus and shooting up the place. I won't go into the logical fallacy thereof - I've gotten into shouting matched with faculty about this - they really do believe that someone will be physically unable to bring a gun onto campus if "the rules" say otherwise.

Although his profile says he from Detroit, so his students are all probably carrying anti-tank weapons anyway.

Banning guns from campus really helps. Why not let me carry mine so I can at least protect myself.

jbuist: what_now: I don't think guns belong on college campuses,

Personally I think Michigan's law on the matter illustrates just how absurd campus gun bans are. I can drive through campus with a loaded gun in my car. I walk walk around campus with a gun on my hip. I can eat lunch in the commons area and I can go to the library.

But if I enroll in a class I can't take it into the actual classroom. I could stand right outside that door and be legal, but a single foot farther and I become a criminal.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

The point isn't whether or not your a criminal depending on where you stand, for the most part. I mean, you aren't carrying one just for the sake of it.
And if you are, you shouldn't be arguing the point.
I am no where near a gun supporter, but I think you should be able to carry one (legally) if you so choose on a campus. The nut jobs who are going to blow up the school are going to do so whether or not its illegal to carry it on to campus.
The majority of people you stop with conceal-carry laws on campus are those who wish to protect themselves.

Now if only we could get Remove All Republicans here to REALLY piss on this thread!

My guess is that, considering this was a communications class in CCSU, everyone involved is an idiot.

Well, she was missing from ratemyprofessor as of a few minutes ago. I wonder is she was able to get deleted after this hit the fan.

Conservatard on fark yesterday:

Assault weapons shouldn't be restricted because they are so infrequently used in crimes.

Conservatard on fark today:

I need my gun with me in class in the extremely rare event some psycho comes in to shoot up the place.

So much for logic and reason.

Cops want a total monopoly on power and control.

You packing heat doesn't help them in that goal.

Rather than come out and just admit that, instead cops concern-troll the issue.

/won't meet crash safety standards, yada yada yada.

"After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas."

No, it isn't. Not anymore. Colleages have become Left Wing Politically Correct Thought Zones. No dissenting opinions allowed, and if expressed, the student will be hounded out.

Leftists don't like the idea of the citizens possessing the means of resisting the directives of the intelligentsia. After all, they know what's best. Like we should all live in apartment blocks, the better to ease man's impact on the environment, plus it's a handy way of monitoring and controlling the movements of the masses.

Only the intelligentsia can live in the country, because they are smarter and more sensitive than the Budweiser swilling masses, thus better able to appreciate the subtlies and beauty of nature. Wide screen TVs and 40 channels of sports is good enough for the masses.

Unfortunately, the widely armed populance stands in the way of accomplishing this idyllic vision, so it's necessary to wear down public opposition to gun control by programming the masses to believe ONLY psychopathic individuals want to possess guns.

These type of selective investigations, and enforcement actions, will increase until all the potentially violent get their minds right. ;)

schatzie: Well, she was missing from ratemyprofessor as of a few minutes ago. I wonder is she was able to get deleted after this hit the fan.

Uh, I just quoted from her page on ratemyprofessor.com. Its still up. Type Paula Anderson in the search field in the upper right.

They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel "scared and uncomfortable".

The gheys?

studebaker hoch: The people controlling our copsCops want a total monopoly on power and control.

You packing heat doesn't help them in that goal.

Rather than come out and just admit that, instead cops concern-troll the issue.

/won't meet crash safety standards, yada yada yada.

/go to the source

40yoVirgin: RodneyToady: I hope the speech was videotaped. I'd love to see if the prof was somehow justified, or completely paranoid.

This.

Yeah. It's entirely possible the prof is some sort of anti-gun bedwetter, but I can't help wondering if the kid might have allowed some first-person references and Internet classroom toughguy to creep into his presentation.

mark12A: No, it isn't. Not anymore. Colleages have become Left Wing Politically Correct Thought Zones. No dissenting opinions allowed, and if expressed, the student will be hounded out.

Leftists don't like the idea of the citizens possessing the means of resisting the directives of the intelligentsia. After all, they know what's best. Like we should all live in apartment blocks, the better to ease man's impact on the environment, plus it's a handy way of monitoring and controlling the movements of the masses.

Only the intelligentsia can live in the country, because they are smarter and more sensitive than the Budweiser swilling masses, thus better able to appreciate the subtlies and beauty of nature. Wide screen TVs and 40 channels of sports is good enough for the masses.

Unfortunately, the widely armed populance stands in the way of accomplishing this idyllic vision, so it's necessary to wear down public opposition to gun control by programming the masses to believe ONLY psychopathic individuals want to possess guns.

bartink: Conservatard on fark yesterday:

Assault weapons shouldn't be restricted because they are so infrequently used in crimes.

Conservatard on fark today:

I need my gun with me in class in the extremely rare event some psycho comes in to shoot up the place.

So much for logic and reason.

Your "logic" assumes that some psycho is coming in with an "assault weapon" (which isn't an actual category of weapon). What happens if they come in with just a pistol? It's still a lethal device. I know I'd still want a concealed pistol of my own to shoot back with instead of just having to sit there and take it until the "highly-trained" campus security showed up.

Availability of weapons categorized as "assault weapons" and the desire to have a self-defense implement on-hand in a classroom aren't necessarily related.

/I know I'm feeding a troll. I'm bored.

"I was a bit nervous when I walked into the police station," Wahlberg said, "but I felt a general sense of disbelief once the officer actually began to list the firearms registered in my name. I was never worried however, because as a law-abiding gun owner, I have a thorough understanding of state gun laws as well as unwavering safety practices."

Sounds like Mr. Professor is a couple credits short on his diversity training.

UNC_Samurai: I anyone got "uncomfortable" discussing the idea of concealed-carry laws on campus in a class discussion, then maybe those students don't need to be in college. The purpose of the institution is the free discussion of ideas. The professor is a jackass, and the students who may have shown "discomfort" are sheltered little snowflakes.

Go see Expelled and you will soon lose your fanciful notion about freedom on campus(es).

bartink: Conservatard on fark yesterday:

Assault weapons shouldn't be restricted because they are so infrequently used in crimes.

Conservatard on fark today:

I need my gun with me in class in the extremely rare event some psycho comes in to shoot up the place.

So much for logic and reason.

It's not limited to a specific political spectrum. Both repub and dem sides have completely idiotic viewpoints on gun control all the way around. It's a giant clusterfark of lobbying and incompetent viewpoints.

DempseySR26: Banning guns from campus really helps. Why not let me carry mine so I can at least protect myself.

That ought to get things stirred up around here.
Not that I don't agree with you...

I'm thinking "spin-click" on this subject. spin-click, spin-bang.
get it

mark12A:

After all, they know what's best. Like we should all live in apartment blocks, the better to ease man's impact on the environment, plus it's a handy way of monitoring and controlling the movements of the masses.

Only the intelligentsia can live in the country, because they are smarter and more sensitive than the Budweiser swilling masses, thus better able to appreciate the subtlies and beauty of nature. Wide screen TVs and 40 channels of sports is good enough for the masses.


Firstly, apartment living is loads better for the environment than country living, no matter if you are a redneck or hippy.

And second, (it is sad) but what makes your second point untrue?

bartink: Conservatard on fark yesterday:

Assault weapons shouldn't be restricted because they are so infrequently used in crimes.

Conservatard on fark today:

I need my gun with me in class in the extremely rare event some psycho comes in to shoot up the place.

So much for logic and reason.

The "assault weapons" ban is a restriction of liberty. Carrying a weapon is an expression of liberty. You need a good reason to restrict liberty, not to exercise it.