obvious tag was on holiday ?
did we expect anything else from fema and bush ?

Except for the part about the crap being stamped on. But of course, anything to make the government look bad.

Why, as a nation, do we keep saying we want the federal government to help more?

The allegations include claims that managers in the office have been intentionally slowing the post-Katrina recovery in an effort to keep their jobs longer.



Approves.

Actually what's sad is the fact that after FOUR FREAKIN'YEARS that FEMA still has to be in the area to continue to wet nurse those parasites of society. C'mon people, get off you butt's and do something for youself!! It's been FOUR YEARS!

After 4 years, why is FEMA still doing anything there? Why haven't the honest, hardworking citizens of New Orleans rebuilt their own city?

Three and a half years on and these guys still can't get it together. Knowing FEMA is there to help you in the event of a disaster can't be much of a comforting thought.

In related news, there are also National Guard troops still stationed there (at least until this weekend):

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,502486,00.html

Because, as we all know, only the federal government is responsible for rebuilding New Orleans. It's not like the city has a mayor or city council or has been getting help from numerous private agencies or has been getting God only knows how much money from the feds.

/Okay, I've now gotten further down the page and seen that this has been covered
//Katrina trifecta in play?

Why is there even a FEMA? It has demonstrated itself to be counterproductive in nearly every situation to which it has been sent. During Katrina, city, state and federal officials were still arguing about whether or not there had been a hurricane when the Wal-marts of the country were delivering food and water. Since Katrina we have sent enough money down there to tear down and rebuild all of Louisiana from end to end and yet very little has been accomplished and most of what has happened was the result of private money and effort.

FTA - "allegations of cronyism, nepotism, sexual harrassment and other alleged misconduct"

Having lived in New Orleans for most of my life until about 10 years ago, this isn't a FEMA thing, it's a New Orleans thing. It's one of the main reason why I left.

My Give-a-Shiat for New Orleans ended when they re-elected Ray Naggin.

FEMA evacuation plan.

Run Motherfarker Run

RamboFrog: Because, as we all know, only the federal government is responsible for rebuilding New Orleans.

Well, that argument can be made. The Corps of Engineers admitted that the faulty levees failed due to a bad design, thus the flooding of the city.

Katrina was not a direct impact by a Cat-5 on the city as many believe; it was a side-swipe by a (strong) Cat-3. The levees should have held.

Katrina was simply Darwin calling on a bunch of stupid people. If you need FEMA for more than a day, you are an asshole.

I would try to kill myself also, if my Asbo was breached.

/// would also work

namatad: obvious tag was on holiday ?
did we expect anything else from fema and bush ?

The question you should be asking yourself is whether you expect anything else from FEMA or anybody. Hurricanes should not be political footballs.

It's been years. We shouldn't be helping those who won't help themselves. FEMA isn't a gravy train for lazy, entitled, self important fools so the whining should be falling on deaf ears.

Woopsie. wrong thread. Pretend this one is about 3-5 down the list. Funny how that happens.

We should kill anyone still needing help from NO. Even the crazy haired beer guy I bet has moved on.

No matter how often nor how bad government screws up, many still put their faith in it. "Surely, if we just change personnel, the preverse incentives will go away!"

Lee Bruns : My Give-a-Shiat for New Orleans ended when they re-elected Ray Naggin.


schadenfreudian : It's been years. We shouldn't be helping those who won't help themselves. FEMA isn't a gravy train for lazy, entitled, self important fools so the whining should be falling on deaf ears.

Amen, and Amen again.

vicejay: RamboFrog: Because, as we all know, only the federal government is responsible for rebuilding New Orleans.

Well, that argument can be made. The Corps of Engineers admitted that the faulty levees failed due to a bad design, thus the flooding of the city.

Katrina was not a direct impact by a Cat-5 on the city as many believe; it was a side-swipe by a (strong) Cat-3. The levees should have held.

And they also said that the levees couldn't hold due to dilapidation, and needed repair, and even presented the local government the costs to fix it, well before Katrina. Also, the pumps malfunctioned under the city, thereby making it impossible to get any water out even if they fixed it.

/Ray boy should have been fired for his antics.

Shilar: Also, the pumps malfunctioned under the city, thereby making it impossible to get any water out even if they fixed it.

Pretty sure the Corps installed the pumps.

/I think

PoopStain: They aren't obligated to keep taking care of them, just like the levees. That's the state and city governments' job.

I agree the state had a role in maintaining the levees.

But the feds acknowledged that it was a faulty design, not lack of maintenance, that led to the failure.

YouPeopleAreCrazy Quote 2009-02-28 07:02:31 AM
After 4 years, why is FEMA still doing anything there? Why haven't the honest, hardworking citizens of New Orleans rebuilt their own city?

That would mean that they actually have to do work and not just collect those welfare checks and fill their crack pipes.

Does this mean we are going to kick the poor citizens of NOLA out of the hotels where they have been living for the past 3.5 years? No more meals delivered to the front door or maid service?

tsk tsk. I thought 0bama was going to give them hope and the change from his pocket.

globalwarmingpraiser: FEMA evacuation plan.

Run Motherfarker Run

FEMA isn't responsible for evacuation.

This thread is filled with more ignorance than New Orleans. I live here and that is saying a lot. There is honestly so much wrong with what pretty much everyone is saying that I really don't want to get into it.

Subtle racism is still racism.

I can't wait for the Federal Government to take over health care.

A fema crew dined at the cafe I frequent adjacent to my jobsite last week. Hilarity ensued.

One lady had apparently ordered the special, of which there are six on any given day, comprising one quarter of the menu. Every plate that came out, regardless of it's contents or which table it went to, would elicit her shouting "is that the special?"

The gentleman next to her talked incessantly and without regard for audience of all the things he was "getting" for free.

Another lady asked if everyone had silverware twenty times. There were thirteen of them. She wasn't sure what she ordered either, and had to trade plates, twice.

The gentleman at the end of the table tried to assert control over the others throughout the meal, but may as well have been a ghost. He looked like a manager, and ate half of a coworkers sandwich before his fish arrived. They decided to trade.

I don't see how people incapable of ordering for thirteen could manage federal allocations for natural disasters.

I work as a selling sales manager in New Orleans directly with contractors and homeowners renovating properties. Our business is up nearly 200% over last year to date. I hired two additional salespeople and another installer. FEMA has ZERO to do with any recovery efforts. FEMA needs to be disbanded. FEMA has lost the faith and trust of the American People.

I would recommend Spike Lee's documentary "When the levees broke: Requiem". If nothing else, it raises a lot of questions that I never really saw covered in the Media clusterf*@k.

What about those flood victims in Ohio? And the ice storm victims in Kentucky? Oh, they're back to being productive members of society and aren't looking for handouts you say? Go figure.

PoopStain: vicejay: Pretty sure the Corps installed the pumps.

They aren't obligated to keep taking care of them, just like the levees. That's the state and city governments' job.

Do you blame the car dealer when your car runs out of gas?

yes. Those damn, dirty, gas gnomes stealing mah gas n shiat

It pisses me the fark off that victims of Katrina are still getting aid after all these years. It is ridiculous when compared to how FEMA treated those victims of Ike.

For example, many Galvestonians were kicked out of their hotel rooms only 2 months after Ike with no where to go considering they lost everything! Or that FEMA declined aid to many who needed it here in Galveston after Ike. I think it says a lot when 40% of the islands population has yet to return and most likely will not due to a lack of aid.

Sorry just had to get that off my chest.

/lives in Galveston
//victim of Ike
///lost almost everything and no help from FEMA

more obama supporters whining for the government to give them everything.

Xlr8urfark: yes. Those damn, dirty, gas gnomes stealing mah gas n shiat

Step 3.. Profit? :)

Four years later and the parasites are still working the government tit.

pelzar: This thread is filled with more ignorance than New Orleans. I live here and that is saying a lot. There is honestly so much wrong with what pretty much everyone is saying that I really don't want to get into it.

Subtle racism is still racism.

What a pathetic cop out, you should be proud. Instead of providing insight into why in hell the Federal Emergency Management Agency is still on-site four years after the emergency, thereby addressing the real issue which is the rebuilding process, you instead take the high-road and just call everyone responding to the article racist. Bravo to you sir.

People like you, and I'm not speaking of your skin color but your character, are the reason New Orleans remains a horrible cesspool.

pelzar: This thread is filled with more ignorance than New Orleans. I live here and that is saying a lot. There is honestly so much wrong with what pretty much everyone is saying that I really don't want to get into it.

Subtle racism is still racism.

I think the majority of the residents in your town are lazy as$holes who expect everything to be given to them.

That isnt racism. That is me thinking people in your town are lazy as$holes.

NExD: pelzar: This thread is filled with more ignorance than New Orleans. I live here and that is saying a lot. There is honestly so much wrong with what pretty much everyone is saying that I really don't want to get into it.

Subtle racism is still racism.

I think the majority of the residents in your town are lazy as$holes who expect everything to be given to them.

That isnt racism. That is me thinking people in your town are lazy as$holes.

Agreed.
shiftless and lazy is shiftless and lazy.

FEMA isn't doing anything for the lazy population right now. Absolutely nothing. FEMA gave out checks right after the hurricane and did some damage assessment for people's homes to get clearance to rebuild. That is all. The rest of what FEMA is doing is on a political level. As of now, "emergency managers" for FEMA are dicking around trying to get paid.

To blame FEMA still being here on lazy citizens is completely ignorant. Lazy money hungry politicians? More likely than you think.

I did contract work for an outside company that required me to correspond with FEMA reps every day. Specifically we were inspecting storm drains in the city for blockage from the hurricane. Every FEMA guy I worked with wanted to stretch the day out. We would finish our route by 1pm and he would want to hang out until 3 or 4.

The racism comment was directed to those implying that the city of nothing but crackheads that need another hurricane to finish them off.

FEMA needs to go, National Guard not so much. Completely different topic but until police corruption goes down and more, good policeman come around, we really need any additional military help we can get.

It really hurts to see people generalize the ethics of a city based on what they see in the news. I understand the news doesn't pain the prettiest picture, but it really sucks to be a hardworking citizen of New Orleans and every time I read people from around the country commenting on Katrina they bring up all the BS about ethnic cleansing and how the world would be better off without New Orleans.

It's not ethnic cleansing, it's common sense. In a country so vast, with transportation and trade now as advanced as they are, what purpose does a city built below sea level in a river delta serve beyond proving we are recalcitrant.

pelzar: This thread is filled with more ignorance than New Orleans. I live here and that is saying a lot. There is honestly so much wrong with what pretty much everyone is saying that I really don't want to get into it.

Subtle racism is still racism.

THIS

/lives in Southeast Mississippi
// owns slab

pelzar: FEMA isn't doing anything . . .
It really hurts to see people generalize the ethics of a city based on what they see in the news. I understand the news doesn't pain the prettiest picture, but it really sucks to be a hardworking citizen of New Orleans and every time I read people from around the country commenting on Katrina they bring up all the BS about ethnic cleansing and how the world would be better off without New Orleans.

My question is why hasn't New Orleans been rebuilt long ago? What's standing in the way? The government has earmarked billions for New Orleans. I don't know how much has been spent but the earmarks were there. Private donations have been in the millions - where did all that money go? People have gone down to NOLA in droves to help rebuild - what have they been doing? I have heard, over the years, of Heculean efforts by private citizens, tons of money sent/earmarked and yet reports tell us that very little has been done. What is the true story?

Hopefully I can provide some sort of answer (however open ended this may be). First of all, the argument always stands that New Orleans is a necessity because of the Port of New Orleans the Port of South Louisiana(not in New Orleans, but same geography). It is something like the 5th largest port in the US and the only major port to the Gulf of Mexico. Also, with a population of over a million and even more in the Greater New Orleans area, there is no feasible way to have that many people just move elsewhere. That is asking way too much of anyone. As it stands now, the majority of people that are here are either too poor to move, or are making pretty good money working in the city. Again, this is just a generalization, but it seems that most people who aren't poor and aren't rich are getting out of the city. The middle class is starting to fade and the difference in wealth among the lowest of the low and upper middle is vast (I have no numbers to support this, this is just how it feels out here to me)


As for where the funds are going/gone, this is an outdated article but provides a pretty accurate description of what happened in that regard

http://www.alternet.org/rights/60494/

What happened to all of the money sent our way?

spickus: globalwarmingpraiser: FEMA evacuation plan.

Run Motherfarker Run

FEMA isn't responsible for evacuation.

Never been to the Quarter have you?

That is one of the most popular Bourbon Street T-Shirts. BTW, FEMA paid for the company I worked for to Evacuate Senior citizens and handicapped. Trust me I know as much or more than most people on here when it comes to Emergency planning and response. It's like it was my job or something.

pelzar: FEMA isn't doing anything for the lazy population right now. Absolutely nothing. FEMA gave out checks right after the hurricane and did some damage assessment for people's homes to get clearance to rebuild. That is all. The rest of what FEMA is doing is on a political level. As of now, "emergency managers" for FEMA are dicking around trying to get paid.

To blame FEMA still being here on lazy citizens is completely ignorant. Lazy money hungry politicians? More likely than you think.

I did contract work for an outside company that required me to correspond with FEMA reps every day. Specifically we were inspecting storm drains in the city for blockage from the hurricane. Every FEMA guy I worked with wanted to stretch the day out. We would finish our route by 1pm and he would want to hang out until 3 or 4.

The racism comment was directed to those implying that the city of nothing but crackheads that need another hurricane to finish them off.

FEMA needs to go, National Guard not so much. Completely different topic but until police corruption goes down and more, good policeman come around, we really need any additional military help we can get.

It really hurts to see people generalize the ethics of a city based on what they see in the news. I understand the news doesn't pain the prettiest picture, but it really sucks to be a hardworking citizen of New Orleans and every time I read people from around the country commenting on Katrina they bring up all the BS about ethnic cleansing and how the world would be better off without New Orleans.

You sound like a smart person. Why do you keep making such stupid comments?

Countless other communities have received far less, and recovered far quicker, than the parasites in NOLA. If it takes this long for them to get off their asses, then maybe the world WOULD be a better place if NOLA was wiped off the map with another hurricane.