I remember when Esquire was a magazine worth reading. Then they did that Ali Larter fake celebrity thing and it all started to go down the drain.

Does the recoil from a rifle knock the balance of a Segway out of whack when out hunting hippies?

I'm in favor of all of those things! Thanks, Barry!

oldfarthenry: Does the recoil from a rifle knock the balance of a Segway out of whack when out hunting hippies?

The raging hard-on should be an adequate counter-balance.

How about environmentally friendly hunting porn involving Segways?

Environmentally friendly hunting? Does that mean I'm not allowed to fart?

filth: Environmentally friendly hunting? Does that mean I'm not allowed to fart?

According to my office mates, I'm already banned from that activity.

/Sourkraut, Guinness and bean dip. mmmmmmm.

$5 Billion: High Speed Rail

The Catch: In a bid to rebuild America's aging transportation system, infrastructure financing would be devoted to bullet trains, beginning with maglev developments from California to Nevada.

Multi-fail:
1: It's $8 billion.
2: It is not for maglev development, but for high-speed rail corridors.
3. Not a penny is designated for high-speed rail (or maglev) between CA and NV.

/ Yes, I know it's a fluff attempted-humor piece.

Gwendolyn: How about environmentally friendly hunting porn involving Segways?

Tell me more ...

-1 for a slideshow where one of the slides is an ad.

\ -11ty billion for it being a directbuy showroom ad

filth: Environmentally friendly hunting? Does that mean I'm not allowed to fart?

I think the idea would be to walk as much as possible, not do helicopter-access hunting trips (or helicopter hunts), use lead-free shot/bullets, live in a low-impact manner out in the wild...


Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

Bored Horde: Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

nah, you just make sure you use reusable, biodegradable cages to release the quails from.

Bored Horde: Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

I'm pretty sure it high end luxury vacations have everything to do with the vacationer completely triumphing over nature. Nature is full of dirt and unsanitary creatures.

A GIS for 'segway porn' is depressingly SFW.

Every hunting trip I've ever gone on - all three of them - involved me getting drunk, waking up way too early, and freezing my ass off.

/Never killed a deer or a duck.

I wish someone would come up with a way to show me advertisements while I look at inane snark masquerading as news.

Obama is going to ban hunting with lead bullets, and then claim that there is no legitimate use for lead bullets and ban them all together. Then comes the claims that the new bullets are "armor piercing"...

Bored Horde: filth: Environmentally friendly hunting? Does that mean I'm not allowed to fart?

I think the idea would be to walk as much as possible, not do helicopter-access hunting trips (or helicopter hunts), use lead-free shot/bullets, live in a low-impact manner out in the wild...


Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

A lot of times there are moves to push for non-lead bullets.

Unfortunately, there isn't a 1 to 1 alternative for lead. Some heavy items like tungsten are also hard, and thus wear the barrel (and are expensive).

Lead is a cheap, dense, soft metal. There isn't much of a good alternative :/

DjangoStonereaver: A GIS for 'segway porn' is depressingly SFW.

Well considering that the hype for the segway was the marketing equivalent of coitus-interruptus that's not too surprising.

Hunters are some of the most effective conservationists in the country. Hippies want to stare at wildlife, hunters want to shoot a certain percentage of it, but either way you have to protect the environment those critters live in.

Check out the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, for instance: http://www.rmef.org/home They've purchased or improved (removal of barbed wire fencing, for instance) hundreds of thousands of acres so that elk can live there. And then they shoot a few of em', and they are tasty. Win-win.

Porn for environmentally friendly hunters.

Shotgun goes where?

unlikely: Bored Horde: Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

I'm pretty sure it high end luxury vacations have everything to do with the vacationer completely triumphing over nature. Nature is full of dirt and unsanitary creatures.

What is best in life?

To crush the bush, see small animals driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the vegans.

choice and consequence: Hunters are some of the most effective conservationists in the country. Hippies want to stare at wildlife, hunters want to shoot a certain percentage of it, but either way you have to protect the environment those critters live in.

Check out the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, for instance: http://www.rmef.org/home They've purchased or improved (removal of barbed wire fencing, for instance) hundreds of thousands of acres so that elk can live there. And then they shoot a few of em', and they are tasty. Win-win.

Hunters actually benefit the most from wide protected portions of nature. In their rush to denounce anything non-progressive, many people mistakenly believe all hunters are riding monster trucks through the woods, swilling beer shooting everything that moves.

I think Ted Nugent is one of the worst advocates that hunters have ever had.

DarnoKonrad: I wish someone would come up with a way to show me advertisements while I look at inane snark masquerading as news.

That sounds like a project worthy of some stimulus money.

I once watched a porn where these people shot a bear and then had sex on top of the bear's corpse then dogs ripped at the bear's corpse. It was seriously the most messed up thing I've ever seen in my life.

TheWizard: choice and consequence: Hunters are some of the most effective conservationists in the country. Hippies want to stare at wildlife, hunters want to shoot a certain percentage of it, but either way you have to protect the environment those critters live in.

Check out the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, for instance: http://www.rmef.org/home They've purchased or improved (removal of barbed wire fencing, for instance) hundreds of thousands of acres so that elk can live there. And then they shoot a few of em', and they are tasty. Win-win.

Hunters actually benefit the most from wide protected portions of nature. In their rush to denounce anything non-progressive, many people mistakenly believe all hunters are riding monster trucks through the woods, swilling beer shooting everything that moves.

I think Ted Nugent is one of the worst advocates that hunters have ever had.

This is true. I've never been a hunter, I couldn't do it (Fishing made me feel too guilty and killing flies and spiders occasionally gives me twinges of guilt), but all my friends who hunt, despite some energy put towards a redneck look and appearance, are not Nugent style kill crazy uber conservatives.

Hidden Agenda Item #102: ARUGULA!

thamike: oldfarthenry: Does the recoil from a rifle knock the balance of a Segway out of whack when out hunting hippies?

The raging hard-on should be an adequate counter-balance.

Wow, over in less than 10 posts....

TheWizard: unlikely: Bored Horde: Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

I'm pretty sure it high end luxury vacations have everything to do with the vacationer completely triumphing over nature. Nature is full of dirt and unsanitary creatures.

What is best in life?

To crush the bush, see small animals driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the vegans.

Win. Pure, weapon's grade win.

TheWizard: Hunters actually benefit the most from wide protected portions of nature. In their rush to denounce anything non-progressive, many people mistakenly believe all hunters are riding monster trucks through the woods, swilling beer shooting everything that moves.

Unfortunately it's the shiatheads who ruin it. Lots of hunters take care of trails, are careful whose property they're on, and get all their permits in line. The best hunters know that meat is tastiest when killed quickly, too.

Trophy hunters bother me. Couldn't you just do that in a game of Doom or something? Don't just leave 200lbs of good, albeit headless, meat sitting out there to rot.

I think Ted Nugent is one of the worst advocates that hunters have ever had.

This is also true. :P

/apparently some kind of liberal hippy yupfag.
//loves fuzzy little animals on her plate.

Approves:

Bored Horde: I think the idea would be to walk as much as possible, not do helicopter-access hunting trips (or helicopter hunts), use lead-free shot/bullets, live in a low-impact manner out in the wild...


Basically to treat the hunting trip as you vs. nature, not a high end luxury vacation.

As a southerner and avid fisherman/occasional hunter, I say that this is a good thing. Conservation is the most important part of enjoying our great outdoors. Let me catch you screwing up my favorite trout stream....

Porn? It's about time!

DjangoStonereaver: A GIS for 'segway porn' is depressingly SFW

BuckTurgidson: Multi-fail:
1: It's $8 billion.
2: It is not for maglev development, but for high-speed rail corridors.
3. Not a penny is designated for high-speed rail (or maglev) between CA and NV.

The sad part is that $5 billion is not even close to enough to really develop high speed rail in this country. I wish that there were $100 billion going to that instead of to roads.

preizner: DjangoStonereaver: A GIS for 'segway porn' is depressingly SFW

I am strangly excited by that picture.

Is that wrong?

TheWizard:
A lot of times there are moves to push for non-lead bullets.

Unfortunately, there isn't a 1 to 1 alternative for lead. Some heavy items like tungsten are also hard, and thus wear the barrel (and are expensive).

Lead is a cheap, dense, soft metal. There isn't much of a good alternative :/

Plenty of lead free rounds available, and they're pretty good. Lead free bullets and primers. Remington makes hunting ammo in is, Nosler and Corbon makes bullets that contain 0 lead. The LF at the end of the 5.7mm SS195LF is for 'lead free'. And the SS195 costs the same as the 'regular' SS197.

Of course, studies have already shown that lead from ammo from rifle hunting doesn't effect the environment. Too spread out and far too little. The issue with shotguns and waterfowl was that ducks happily ate the stuff. So it's really a moot point. The main benefit of lead free ammo isn't environmental, but having to do with indoor shooters (often cops) and range workers having elevated lead levels.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm 2009-02-27 02:40:42 PM
Obama is going to ban hunting with lead bullets, and then claim that there is no legitimate use for lead bullets and ban them all together. Then comes the claims that the new bullets are "armor piercing"...

Considering your brilliant prognostication involving the '08 election, I'm gonna have to say, "probably not."

You're welcome.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: Obama is going to ban hunting with lead bullets, and then claim that there is no legitimate use for lead bullets and ban them all together. Then comes the claims that the new bullets are "armor piercing"...

Here you are with these amazing future-telling abilities and you kept the impending economic collapse to yourself? You bastard!!!!

jcooli09: Is that wrong?

Yes

Not An Alt: As a southerner and avid fisherman/occasional hunter, I say that this is a good thing. Conservation is the most important part of enjoying our great outdoors. Let me catch you screwing up my favorite trout stream....

Yeah, and us ecologically aware types have our own facepalm inducing groups. The "let 50% of humans die" crowd and the "ban meat" crowd really make it hard to preach the much more effective gospel of moderation and conservation.

Spade: Of course, studies have already shown that lead from ammo from rifle hunting doesn't effect the environment. Too spread out and far too little. The issue with shotguns and waterfowl was that ducks happily ate the stuff. So it's really a moot point. The main benefit of lead free ammo isn't environmental, but having to do with indoor shooters (often cops) and range workers having elevated lead levels.

Lead produces a lot of toxic shiat when you handle it, so its more then just the bullets. Any reduction in lead use goes a long way in improving the environment we live in. Cradle to grave management is the way to think.

I'm on a segway watching porn and posting on my laptop while bow hunting right now, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies?

Am just starting to get into guns a bit. I want to get a Thompson Z5 muzzleloader. Is he gonna consider muzzleloaders bad for the environment?

BuckTurgidson: 2: It is not for maglev development, but for high-speed rail corridors.

Why can't we have maglev? :(

Mnemia: BuckTurgidson: Multi-fail:
1: It's $8 billion.
2: It is not for maglev development, but for high-speed rail corridors.
3. Not a penny is designated for high-speed rail (or maglev) between CA and NV.

The sad part is that $5 billion is not even close to enough to really develop high speed rail in this country. I wish that there were $100 billion going to that instead of to roads.

It's a start, I guess.

And, oops, my mistake. I jumped the gun and assumed (and you know what happens when you do that) they were talking about the stimulus bill, not the budget. The budget includes:

initiates a New federal Commitment to high Speed Rail. To provide Americans a 21st Century transportation system, the Administration proposes a five-year $5 billion high-speed rail State grant program. Building on the $8 billion down payment in the American recovery and reinvestment Act of 2009, the President's proposal marks a new Federal commitment to give the traveling public a practical and environmentally sustainable alternative to flying or driving. Directed by the States, this investment will lead to the creation of several high-speed rail corridors across the country linking regional population centers.

/Still no levitating sin express train to Vegas, though :(

rppp01a: Am just starting to get into guns a bit. I want to get a Thompson Z5 muzzleloader. Is he gonna consider muzzleloaders bad for the environment?

Depends on what you load your muzzle with.

filth: Environmentally friendly hunting? Does that mean I'm not allowed to fart?

We're getting to the point where hunting is actually environmentally friendly in and of itself. In the NE, our deer population is spiraling out of control. They need to be culled, even in urban areas, as we don't have enough natural predators to keep them in check at this point.

/Liberal, city-loving East Coast elitist environmentalist!

There's a lot of common ground between hunters and hippies. We both care deeply about the environment, we're both interested in conservation, and we're both sick of Ted Nugent and PETA farking up our respective reputations. As for porn and segways, I'm only interested if we can somehow combine the two. Otherwise get the segways out and increase the porn budget.

Dwight_Yeast: They need to be culled, even in urban areas, as we don't have enough natural predators to keep them in check at this point.

So? Stop building subdivisions out of their habitat and it won't be a "problem."

:D

*bolts*