ARRA = no earmarks
Omnibus = ALL EARMARKS Which is the point of the bill


I'm not sure what you are getting at subby

Old habits die hard, I guess.

I'm just happy that the earmarks actually have sponsor names associated with them. That change happened when Democrats took control in 2007. And even goes so far as to list sponsors that aren't actually in Congress.

And, of course, it's more important that the earmark be a worthy project. YMMV, of course; the Fark independents think all government spending is unworthy.

pixistick: Omnibus = ALL EARMARKS Which is the point of the bill

Oh yeah, the thought hadn't crossed my mind. Did Obama actually promise that this Omnibus spending bill wouldn't have earmarks?

hillbillypharmacist: Did Obama actually promise that this Omnibus spending bill wouldn't have earmarks?

no

pixistick: no

Then let's wash our hands of this whaaargarbl and run naked in the fields!

pixistick: ARRA = no earmarks
Omnibus = ALL EARMARKS Which is the point of the bill


I'm not sure what you are getting at subby

The point of the Omnibus is to provide funding for the various departments that have been on a continuing resolution budget. It gives money to the departments, and specifies how that money should be divided up between programs in the department. Then it has earmarks for specific projects on top of that, which are not really the point of the bill, just additions.

1. no.

2. it's for vocational education for destitute native americans? wow, what a horrible waste of money.

hillbillypharmacist: Then let's wash our hands of this whaaargarbl and run naked in the fields fiddle while Rome burns!

Earmarked money is money that Congress is authorizing for a specific purpose. Non-earmarked money is given to an unelected bureaucracy, which decides how to spend it. All spending should be earmarked, all the time.

Dancin_In_Anson: fiddle while Rome burns!

You're so melodramatic. Everything is the end of the world.

hillbillypharmacist: pixistick: no

Then let's wash our hands of this whaaargarbl and run naked in the fields!

No.

It's 17F outside today. Brrr.

ScubaDude1960: Earmarked money is money that Congress is authorizing for a specific purpose. Non-earmarked money is given to an unelected bureaucracy, which decides how to spend it. All spending should be earmarked, all the time.

If only there was some way other than the internet for citizens to get their ideas heard. Some sort of lobby to wait in, or positions of power to run for. If only.

ScubaDude1960: Earmarked money is money that Congress is authorizing for a specific purpose. Non-earmarked money is given to an unelected bureaucracy, which decides how to spend it. All spending should be earmarked, all the time.

I don't agree, but I understand the sentiment. Discretionary funds are necessary though. Let's say most spending should be earmarked, most of the time...

And they're editing the bill to remove the president's name. That makes everything OK.

Yeah, but Obama's ears are pretty big so I would imagine they would be pretty hard to miss.

sirgrim: If only there was some way other than the internet for citizens to get their ideas heard. Some sort of lobby to wait in, or positions of power to run for. If only.

Yeah, they ALWAYS listen to citizens! Everyone knows that.

hillbillypharmacist: pixistick: no

Then let's wash our hands of this whaaargarbl and run naked in the fields!

Hurrah!

There will be reasoned debate and explanation for these shenannigans, I'm sure of it.

Obama's Stimulus Bill claim: no earmarks
Budget Omnibus Spending Bill: earmarks

[Hannity Blender]

OBAMA IS LYING TO US~!`~!11

Vote for me, and I'll fund your Tribally Controlled Postsecondary Vocational Institution!

Are the people that actually believed this clown would be different ashamed of themselves yet?

I love how removing pork, has morphed into removing all earmarks.

I think republicans just like saying the word.

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Maybe if you say it like that it'll magically transport you back to the 50s, when your way of life was actually popular.

Change™ we can believe in.

WildMonkey: Earmarks really?!

For a bill that helps those that started the mess in the first place?

Help for those that kept the profits ran and left us the bill?

You think?!

How does your comment relate to the Omnibus bill?

WhackingDay: I love how removing pork, has morphed into removing all earmarks.

I think republicans just like saying the word.

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Maybe if you say it like that it'll magically transport you back to the 50s, when your way of life was actually popular.

The 1950s was marked by strict Keynesian economics at the federal government level.

Is it an earmark to build a bridge that goes no where? Is it to study boners in African chimps?

Great.

Yet another thread where the truly out identify themselves, and about half of everyone else pretends they don't understand how American politics works.

hillbillypharmacist: Everything is the end of the world.

Well, I keep hearing from Obama how dire everything is, how desperate times are how it's the worst economy in history and how he's going to fix it by spending us into oblivion while ass raping the producers (including my boss and my customer base) via the tax code.

So yeah, I'm not a happy camper right now.

So this is today's AM radio talking point, huh?

randomjsa: Are the people that actually believed this clown would be different ashamed of themselves yet?

If by "this clown" you mean "yourself" then I don't know what you're talking about.

Tribally Controlled Postsecondary Vocational Institutions

LOL WUT?

Sioux Vo Tech?

"truly stupid," even.

Guess I just outed myself.

randomjsa: Are the people that actually believed this clown would be different ashamed of themselves yet?

Are republicans ashamed of how they got us into this mess?

Lagrange: Yet another thread where the truly out identify themselves

Huh?

i hope everyone piles on the submittard and the incompetent goon who wrote the article for not understanding the difference between an omnibus spending bill and the american recovery and reinvestment act. one contains earmarks, as it should. the other doesn't, as was promised.

please, neocons - take your wharrgarbl and fauxtrage somewhere else. save it for when you actually have something to rail against.

So, all I have to do is write a completely untrue, misleading tag and it will get through. This was much easier than I originally thought.

Ah yes, let's come up with a technicality to make sure that our Messiah's hands stay clean...

He is a dirty, rotten, lying politician just like all of the ones before him

/No We Can't

Dancin_In_Anson: hillbillypharmacist: Everything is the end of the world.

Well, I keep hearing from Obama how dire everything is, how desperate times are how it's the worst economy in history and how he's going to fix it by spending us into oblivion while ass raping the producers (including my boss and my customer base) via the tax code.

So yeah, I'm not a happy camper right now.

I'm sure the 90s were terrible for your boss and your customer base. Cause that's where the tax rates are going back to.

WhackingDay: I love how removing pork, has morphed into removing all earmarks.

I think republicans just like saying the word.

earmarks
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Maybe if you say it like that it'll magically transport you back to the 50s, when your way of life was actually popular.

Nope. I even clicked my heals while saying it.

It's a farking budget. Of course it has earmarks.

What's the alternative? Should they just hand in each federal agency a blank check and tell them they can use the money however they want, as long as, together with all other agencies, they don't spend over the trillion dollars or however much it is the budget is for?

Jesus, I don't even think most people know what a goddamn earmark is.

Republicans earmarks are necessary spending pork. All other earmarks are pork. Period. At least, that's what the guys who subsidized Haliburton think...

Bend over America.

Mr. Anon: randomjsa: Are the people that actually believed this clown would be different ashamed of themselves yet?

Are republicans ashamed of how they got us into this mess?

Dear lord the bipartisan biatching and moaning is so farking ridiculous. I voted for Obama, but I don't agree with the stimulus bill nor do I agree that Republicans are to blame for where we are now (or Democrats).

What got us into this mess was people being stupid biatches who spend too much money and constantly pass the buck to "the other party" without ever trying to accomplish anything. If it is unpopular with the other party, it must be good.

By it's very nature, this entire budget is earmarks. On a technical basis, that's just what it is. It's also not the stimulus bill that was promised not to have any. It's also one item where the word "Obama" is included once; a total of one time in 427 pages.

Forgive me for saving my moral outrage for an occasion when sanity will actually allow it.

randomjsa: Are the people that actually believed this clown would be different ashamed of themselves yet?

...

Skleenar: Obama's Stimulus Bill claim: no earmarks
Budget Omnibus Spending Bill: earmarks

[Hannity Blender]

OBAMA IS LYING TO US~!`~!11

ScubaDude1960: Earmarked money is money that Congress is authorizing for a specific purpose. Non-earmarked money is given to an unelected bureaucracy, which decides how to spend it. All spending should be earmarked, all the time.

This makes sense to me.

Is it that people want to get the money but they want to decide how to spend it themselves? if that's the case then those people should be ridiculed publicly and for a long time. Isn't that kind of spending what got us into this mess in the first place?

It's not an earmark if it benefits King Obama or his Congressional court. It is only pork or an earmark if a Republican is tied to it. Y'all need to understand that.

My God. It's full of earmarks!

AliasUndercover: Republicans earmarks are necessary spending pork. All other earmarks are pork. Period. At least, that's what the guys who subsidized Haliburton think...

Earmarks aren't the same as pork.