I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

"I'd like a single plum floating in perfume served in a man's hat."

If it weren't for Lennon's taste in women, we never would have heard of her and the world would have been a better place for it.

FT comments:Lindsay

Your point is irrelevant and misguided... If you took the time to read the original pieces, you'll see that.

Yoko Ono hate is fueled by misogyny and racism, and it's long overdue to stop.

Uhh, no. Yoko Ono hate is fueled by her utter lack of talent and the fact that she's been riding a dead man's corpse to the bank by whoring his name out to everybody who would write her a check for nearly 30 years.

Let's see: Yoko Ono, a woman who's only known because she married the right man. THAT'S your example of a strong feminist woman??

The bullet hit the wrong person that fateful day.

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aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

eddyatwork: The bullet hit the wrong person that fateful day.

El Freak: Uhh, no. Yoko Ono hate is fueled by her utter lack of talent and the fact that she's been riding a dead man's corpse to the bank by whoring his name out to everybody who would write her a check for nearly 30 years.

Let's see: Yoko Ono, a woman who's only known because she married the right man. THAT'S your example of a strong feminist woman??


Ah, but she's so talented at being a professional widow!

We hated her because she had no talent except for marrying well. But she didn't ruin the Beatles. They flamed out at the right time. Hell, look at the farking Rolling Stones. They embarrass the shiat out of me now.

There's an audio clip that they play on O&A whenever they want to make fun of Yoko..if I have it correct, it's something like the Beatles on stage with her singing, and there's also Clapton and some other big named artists.
She is abysmal in it. Cringe-inducing terrible. It is unbelievable in every sense of the word how bad she really is.

Dr.Knockboots: There's an audio clip that they play on O&A whenever they want to make fun of Yoko..if I have it correct, it's something like the Beatles on stage with her singing, and there's also Clapton and some other big named artists.
She is abysmal in it. Cringe-inducing terrible. It is unbelievable in every sense of the word how bad she really is.

It's the Dirty Macs performance in the "Rock & Roll Circus" movie, in which one of the most incredible assemblies of talent in rock history is ruined by John's insistence she participate.

But, yes, blaming the Beatles breakup on her is idiotic. She's an emblem of what broke them up, not the cause.

Dr.Knockboots: There's an audio clip that they play on O&A whenever they want to make fun of Yoko..if I have it correct, it's something like the Beatles on stage with her singing, and there's also Clapton and some other big named artists.
She is abysmal in it. Cringe-inducing terrible. It is unbelievable in every sense of the word how bad she really is.

Not hard to find clips of those on YouTube. They're urrvrywhere! I'm especially fond of the time John and Yoko sat in with Zappa's band and they were all making fun of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT_yT2lAGE (pops)

aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

Why can't it be both?

/runs

Which male's creative input did she use in her article?

Saw Yoko at Pitchfork '07. She was awesome, and it had nothing to do with the Beatles.

aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

Careful. Someone will jump in here and say "Oh, she's talented, you just don't appreciate it.

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Crap, i can't find a pick of Yoko Nono from Animaniacs.

God bless Yoko Ono. Seriously, man, I mean it.

I used to be the night manager at a record store, back in the day. One of those strip-mall places where there were always a handful of bored, lonely people just hanging around when closing time arrived.

At 2 minutes till closing time, out came the Yoko records. Nobody clears a room faster, people. Nobody.

Good bless Yoko Ono. Seriously.

John Buck 41: aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

Careful. Someone will jump in here and say "Oh, she's talented, you just don't appreciate it.

/ftfy

there s another youtube video of Jogn playing with Chuck Berry on the mike douglas show i think it was ..

they are all playing fine until Yoko cuts loose with her catterwallin' yoooowwwwww yyyeeeeeeeeeeeooooowwwwwww yyeyyowoywoywoywoywoyw..

Chuck is singing and as soon as she starts BAM his eyes nearly pop out of his head

funniest shiat ever - yoko is and was terrible

Mr_Fabulous: God bless Yoko Ono. Seriously, man, I mean it.

I used to be the night manager at a record store, back in the day. One of those strip-mall places where there were always a handful of bored, lonely people just hanging around when closing time arrived.

At 2 minutes till closing time, out came the Yoko records. Nobody clears a room faster, people. Nobody.

Good bless Yoko Ono. Seriously.

Merzbow full blast will remove anyone and everyone within a two block radius. You can look him up on YouTube. I really don't advise it. Maybe they should do an album together. I'm pretty sure it would destroy the planet. Merzbow's sheer sonic assault combined with Yoko's pure lack of any talent whatsoever; the ultimate WMD.

Besides her part in screwing up John Lennon, THIS is an example of why Yoko Ono is a joke.

Oh Yoko!

Nobody clears a room faster, people. Nobody.

Good bless Yoko Ono. Seriously.

Merzbow full blast will remove anyone and everyone within a two block radius. You can look him up on YouTube. I really don't advise it. Maybe they should do an album together. I'm pretty sure it would destroy the planet. Merzbow's sheer sonic assault combined with Yoko's pure lack of any talent whatsoever; the ultimate WMD.

i can't figure out from this, if you're into merzbow. i agree w/ you on most musical things, but i really like his Vibractance cd

Glitchwerks -

i can't figure out from this, if you're into merzbow. i agree w/ you on most musical things, but i really like his Vibractance cd

dammit!

also, GW, you're 'favorited' in myfark. have been hunting for you on the music page since reading the prodigy thread (late), but now i can't remember why i was looking for you .

konigsforst:
i can't figure out from this, if you're into merzbow. i agree w/ you on most musical things, but i really like his Vibractance cd

I pretty much stopped with "Pulse Demon." I owned and listened to about 10 albums or so I think. After scrolling through his ridiculously large listing on Discogs, I found that album you mentioned. I might check it out, but man, I'm going to regret it, aren't I? Is this some of his more "arty noise" I hear the Merzbow fans praise so much? Or another sheer wall of sonic terror and pandemonium?

I respect the dude but I'm not into him. Now, Aube and Daniel Menche, Nurse With Wound, I can get into that stuff a bit.

It wasn't really her lack of talent on its own that led to Yoko's hated status. She really did lack any sort of discernable skill or talent, but it was more the fact that she tried to use her position as John's wife as justification for forcibly inserting herself as fifth beatle. She just wasn't part of the band, and as such had no right to any sort of creative input whatsoever, it just was not in anyway her place. Just because you love your wife doesn't mean you can take her to meetings at work. Even if she is very smart and capable, she still has no place at a job for which no one hired or pays her to do.

Glitchwerks: konigsforst:
i can't figure out from this, if you're into merzbow. i agree w/ you on most musical things, but i really like his Vibractance cd

I pretty much stopped with "Pulse Demon." I owned and listened to about 10 albums or so I think. After scrolling through his ridiculously large listing on Discogs, I found that album you mentioned. I might check it out, but man, I'm going to regret it, aren't I? Is this some of his more "arty noise" I hear the Merzbow fans praise so much? Or another sheer wall of sonic terror and pandemonium?

I respect the dude but I'm not into him. Now, Aube and Daniel Menche, Nurse With Wound, I can get into that stuff a bit.

actually, i don't recall. been about 8 yrs since i heard it, there was just something about it that got me to listen to it more than 3 times.
yeah about Aube, i like him better (and yes, merzbow is way too prolific)
remembered what i wanted to say in the prodigy thread:
i work at a very large record store and am often disappointed at teh volume of bad electronic music sold (girl talk, soulwax, crystal castles, tiesto and his ilk, etc).
not that interesting of a thing to say, but wanted to communicate about good stuff. if you'd like, my fake-ish email is mic­haelvi­alet­e­sli­amgc­o­m

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wehavethefacts: John Buck 41: aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

Careful. Someone will jump in here and say "Oh, she's talented, you just don't appreciate it.

/ftfy

See?

Or maybe it's because she sells John Lennon's image with no regard.

For example: The Converse All Star John Lennon "Peace Chuck." (new window) A shoe made by Converse, owned by Nike, produced in sweatshops.

I'm sure John would approve of that. Nothing says "John Lennon" like a shoe stitched together by little kids in the third world.

/At least, that's why I hate her.

konigsforst: i work at a very large record store and am often disappointed at teh volume of bad electronic music sold (girl talk, soulwax, crystal castles, tiesto and his ilk, etc).

Excluding Tiesto, I haven't heard of any of those others except by seeing their names mentioned. Since they haven't been mentioned as stuff that might appeal to me, I honestly looked into any of them. I am more than guilty of liking bad records, so I generally try to avoid debates about it.

It's not that people have poor taste in music, imo. It's just that some things are simply more "marketable" and therefore get more face time. People will trip onto the good stuff if you play it for them.

John Buck 41: aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

Careful. Someone will jump in here and say "Oh, she's talented, you just don't appreciate it.

She is talented. As an avant-garde artist, maybe a knack for dance music, definitely as an investor (she quintupled John's fortune by the time he died), just nothing that had anything to do with what the Beatles were recording. And her husband lacked the balls to say, "I'll see you at home."

It's alright everyone, to anyone who is obsessed with identity politics, people are only motivated by gender or race. There can be no other motivating factors, no sir/maam. That would be impossible because they had a professor and an echo chamber on livejournal to prove themselves right.

/do not go to the feminism area on livejournal, your head will explode, I promise you that
//the age of identity politics should have been long since over, but most of these people are misled with outdated facts and won't pull their head out of their asses for 5 minutes to see what's realy going on

Hoopy Frood: She is talented. As an avant-garde artist, maybe a knack for dance music

in my experience an "avent-garde" artist is generally someone who did the right type of drugs. It says very little about artistic talent. yoko has always struck me as more fueled by the latter than the former

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(Chuckles) Feminism.

As has been said, we don't hate her cause she's a woman, we hate her for being talentless and obnoxious.

If John had been farking a guy that acted like Yoko, we'd hate him just as much. More, cause of teh ghey.

tlchwi02: Hoopy Frood: She is talented. As an avant-garde artist, maybe a knack for dance music

in my experience an "avent-garde" artist is generally someone who did the right type of drugs. It says very little about artistic talent. yoko has always struck me as more fueled by the latter than the former

Avant-garde may relate more to creativity and original ideas than so-called talent, but any kind of art is in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes it's just about freaking out the squares.

/dnrtfa, btw

She brings up some interesting points; however she fails to acknowledge the importance of a comfortable creative environment, which Yoko's foul presence in the studio obviously hindered.

If you ever have the opportunity to see Let It Be...it's a terrific primer on making an album under in the most tense environment imaginable. How they managed Abbey Road after that debacle is just unfathomable.

As a general rule, I attempt to read or listen to an opposing POV before dismissing it, or being persuaded.

In this case, I'm just gonna tell the biatch to make me sandwich.

Thank you for the sandwich. Now STFU.

Shenanigans!: ...it's a terrific primer on making an album under in the most tense environment imaginable. How they managed Abbey Road after that debacle is just unfathomable.

George Martin certainly helped. I struggle to name another album that so vastly benefited from a non-'member.' Don't get me wrong...the base-level hooks and pop craftsmanship is there, but just try taking Martin and his contributions away. What you're left with is a good pop album. With it, it's arguably greatest album ever made.

before i even read this thread i want to make an apparent statement that any informed beatles fan knows: yoko was and is and always will be a talentless piece of putrid garbage.

/probably said already but just had to make sure

Have you ever noticed that most Feminists start with the premise that women simply can't be held responsible for their actions?

I'm a little more forgiving then some people around here. I think some of Lennon's out-there experiments with Ono were cool. I think she has her place in 20th century avant-garde art. All cool. She is a smart lady. And Lennon before Ono, he seemed kinda lost and not into doing music. She was the eventual push that gave us "Plastic Ono Band" so it can't be all bad.
That said, there was so much wrong with the situation after. If Lennon was so into her he should have just quit the Beatles then and there, not drag her along into the process, not trying to make her a 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whatever) Beatle. And she should have said "No, you go to the recording studio, I am going to work on my sculptures" or whatever. She should have had respect. 30 years after, the whole thing in retrospect seems to be John begging the band to kick him out.
It's not just Ono John pushed on the band. For a smaller, less feminist-frenzied earlier incident he was obsessed with an electronics guy named Magic Alex, and insisted the Beatles record at a studio he was going to build. When they went there, it was not even built and what was up and running was so amateurish and bad George Martin refused to work there and they went back to EMI. Apple wound up sinking thousands and thousands of dollars in Magic Alex's "inventions", none of which ever worked.

barneyfifesbullet; THIS is an example of why Yoko Ono is a joke.

Good grief. I actually turned around to see what the kids were doing to one of the cats when I realized that it was her singing.
How the heck can you defend caterwauling like that?

I love Yoko Ono.

It's like Kobe Bryant's wife jumping on the floor and looking for a pass.

aden_nak: I don't believe it was the Ono's gender that made her terrible. It was her inherent lack of talent. Try again.

She's actually quite talented as a conceptual artist and at making money. As a singer, not so much (though "Walking on Thin Ice" is a hell of a track).

beerrun: If it weren't for Lennon's taste in women, we never would have heard of her and the world would have been a better place for it.

She wouldn't be as famous as she is, but people would still know about her. She was really big in the Fluxus/avant garde art scene in NYC in the early 60's. She comes up in any discussion of John Cage, Merce Cunningham and their crowd.

/art hsitorian

The Rutles cast a perfect parody of what the British public thought of Yoko Ono.